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ArtemisStrong
March 19, 2005 12:23 PM

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Inflatable_Man
March 19, 2005 12:50 PM

I am a Yusef Islam fan! ALLAH ACKBAAAAAH!!!

*plane explodes*

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areallystupidguy
March 19, 2005 12:58 PM

I am a goshdarned Flaming Lips fan. Zaireeka is the greatest album of all time.

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BigFrank105
March 19, 2005 1:48 PM

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choadwarrior
March 19, 2005 5:06 PM

I had appreciated Cat Stevens, but wrote him off in 1989, when he supported the bounty Ayatollah Khomeni put on Salman Rushdie's head for writing The Satanic Verses.

I was living about 50 yards from his British publisher's headquarters in London at the time. It was really fun coming home from school and having to stand behind baracades at least once a week while the police cleared the building for bombs, or waiting for a mile-long protest march to pass.

I was so happy when the granola chicks in the flat below me threw out their Cat Stevens tapes, and I'm glad he's still not allowed in this country.

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biped
March 19, 2005 7:28 PM

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umfumdisi
March 19, 2005 9:11 PM

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biped, have I told you lately that I love you?

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andydougan
March 20, 2005 6:16 AM

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biped
March 20, 2005 9:29 AM

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biped, have I told you lately that I love you?

Yay!

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BigFrank105
March 20, 2005 9:42 AM

Dammit biped, how long has this affair been going on?

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xxausrottenxx
March 20, 2005 11:00 AM

i see how it is frank, just forget about ME!

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andydougan
March 21, 2005 4:07 AM

How can Cat Stevens endorse sentiments like "find a girl, settle down, if you want you could get married"? Surely it should be "your father will find you a girl, who'll probably be your niece, and you'd better get married or we'll stone the pair of you to death". But I guess that doesn't scan so well.

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ArtemisStrong
March 22, 2005 11:26 AM

Everyone seems angry that Cat Stevens is inconsistent, like he's a universal constant that has been thrown into unmitigated chaos.

And all good sci-fi has shown us that "once even Cat Stevens cannot be trusted, we are truly lost beyond hope." (quote of Ash from Alien right before he melts into baby spit-up)

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Rabid_Weasle
March 22, 2005 3:24 PM

Woa, I never realised that Fight Test was a "cover", but after listening to Father and Son it does make sense.

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biped
March 22, 2005 11:17 PM

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Everyone seems angry that Cat Stevens is inconsistent

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ArtemisStrong
April 12, 2005 12:09 PM

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Brad
April 12, 2005 3:29 PM

The Flaming Lips/Cat Stevens thing was a shock to me when I heard the two songs. I was reading Wikipedia's Nirvana entries the other day when I came across this:

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It is vaguely based around a riff using four power chords (F-Bb-Ab-Db) with more than a passing similarity to a section of Boston's AOR classic "More Than a Feeling", as well as Blue Öyster Cult's "Godzilla". But the starkest similarity is with a song called "Mr Chips" recorded by Crazy Horse, Neil Young's backing band. It should be noted that Kurt Cobain was a big fan of Young's music.

I can't find that Mr. Chips song anywhere online. Also I've been listening to a lot of Elastica lately, it's good.

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jes_lawson
April 12, 2005 3:37 PM

When I find the link someone at work sent me about Nickleback, I will post it here.

Also, re: Flaming Lips:

"I thought I was smart, I thought I was right, I thought it better not to fight, I thought there was a virtue, in always bein' cool..."

Aren't they from Texas?

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Brad
April 12, 2005 3:56 PM

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When I find the link someone at work sent me about Nickleback, I will post it here.

How You Remind Me of Someday - there was a Flash version but I can't seem to find it now.

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Brad
April 12, 2005 4:01 PM

There's also a Coldplay/Sum 41 one floating around out there as well but I can't find it anywhere now.

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Rabid_Weasle
April 12, 2005 5:43 PM

I've heard a Linkin Park one as well.

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Melkor
April 13, 2005 12:08 AM

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The Flaming Lips/Cat Stevens thing was a shock to me when I heard the two songs. I was reading Wikipedia's Nirvana entries the other day when I came across this:

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It is vaguely based around a riff using four power chords (F-Bb-Ab-Db) with more than a passing similarity to a section of Boston's AOR classic "More Than a Feeling", as well as Blue Öyster Cult's "Godzilla". But the starkest similarity is with a song called "Mr Chips" recorded by Crazy Horse, Neil Young's backing band. It should be noted that Kurt Cobain was a big fan of Young's music.

I can't find that Mr. Chips song anywhere online. Also I've been listening to a lot of Elastica lately, it's good.



Blue Öyster Cult is fucking awesome. "Black Blade" is the quintessential prog-acid-rock song. And Buck Dharma is one awesome guitar player.

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Rabid_Weasle
April 13, 2005 8:49 AM

I need more cowbell!

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niteowl
April 13, 2005 4:11 PM

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Blue Öyster Cult is fucking awesome. "Black Blade" is the quintessential prog-acid-rock song.
Good call. If I ever signup for a SC CD Swap, that will be track #1 on my disc.

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areallystupidguy
April 13, 2005 8:50 PM

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And Buck Dharma is one awesome guitar player.


No, wait, no...he's the best.

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umfumdisi
April 13, 2005 9:20 PM

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I can't find that Mr. Chips song anywhere online.

I borrowed the Crazy Horse CD from our public library a couple of years ago. It was horribly boring (and I'm a big Neil Young fan). I don't remember the "Mr. Chips" song at all.

I finally bought Yoshimi last week after hearing much of it through CD Swaps. It's pretty good, but more easy-going than I thought the Lips would sound. Is their earlier stuff heavier than Yoshimi?

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Trippingbillee
April 15, 2005 1:20 PM

Yes... but the sweet spot in their career are the Zaireeka/Soft Bulletin/Yoshimi albums. They're all a bit tamer than the guitar-heavy sonic mish-mash of the older lips, but also have a much stronger melodic sensibility and probably better lyrics. I am a fan of the idiocy of earlier Lips lyrical stylings, though.

Soft bulletin for the win, I might add.

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mmyers
April 15, 2005 1:43 PM

I enjoy the older stuff just because it's a bit dirtier sounding and absurd. I purchased Yoshimi but just wasn't feeling it and sold it to a used place. It's prettier than the older stuff and it defintiely sounds like they have grown up as musicians but I'm in a harder phase right now. Maybe soon I'll go back and listen to it again. Umfum, definitely peep the old stuff. You'll be glad you did.

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Trippingbillee
April 15, 2005 4:10 PM

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I enjoy the older stuff just because it's a bit dirtier sounding and absurd. I purchased Yoshimi but just wasn't feeling it and sold it to a used place. It's prettier than the older stuff and it defintiely sounds like they have grown up as musicians but I'm in a harder phase right now. Maybe soon I'll go back and listen to it again. Umfum, definitely peep the old stuff. You'll be glad you did.

I came at them starting with Yoshimi and working back, like most people I'm sure, so I have a different perspective. I still think Soft Bulletin, though softer, is their best album.

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jes_lawson
April 15, 2005 4:34 PM

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umfumdisi
April 15, 2005 9:08 PM

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Ah, here it is: Nickelback vs uh...Nickelback

Sad and hilarious at the same time. I know bands want to establish their own sound, but that's ridiculous. For the curious, "How You Remind Me" times in at 3:43 and "Someday" at 3:27. Also, here's a scathing review of The Long Road by Stephen Thomas Erlewine which mostly explains why the two songs (and albums) sound alike.

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Also, I'm probably the only person who does this, but in certain parts of "Yoshimi Part 1" right before the chorus, I can't help singing a line or two from Bob Seger's "Turn the Page."

One line in particular is "You pretend it doesn't bother you, but you just want to explode..." then into "...Oh-ohh Yoshimi...."

You have to alter Bob's delivery a bit, but they fit right in there.

Or I'm just a goofball.

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