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joo_joo
March 31, 2005 4:24 PM

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Was it Brad's dad?

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not_Scyess
April 2, 2005 12:10 AM

I'll bet it takes years to cultivate the talent to produce a comic of such surpassing awfulness as that one.

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ftc
April 2, 2005 1:41 PM

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What could he have been doin with Brad's mom to be smoking afterwards?

Rolling tobacco?
Picking tobacco leaves?
Buying cigarettes?
Contemplating having a smoke?

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joo_joo
April 2, 2005 6:03 PM

Whats with the bitchin man, plus how can they be aRolling tobbaco when Brad just said "what you been doin" and the reply "you're mother" super immplies that he has actually done his mother and having a cigegerat (if I spelt that right)

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fuzzyman
April 2, 2005 7:22 PM

Actually, he said "Fuck you been doin asshole?" which really isn't a question.

Now, if we punctuate differently:

"Fuck you! Been doin' asshole?"

Maybe he is asking the dinosaur if he's been doing asshole. Though I'm not sure what doing asshole is. Perhaps you could explain?

Now, the dinosauar answers, "You're mother." That's a contraction of "You are mother." Perhaps Brad is a transgendered parent in this comic? Or maybe he means, "You are, mother." Which sort of make sense as an answer to the question:

"Been doin' asshole?"

"You are, mother!"

But that leaves us with the last panel. He was talking about Brad's mother. But maybe... maybe the narrator is totally wrong! Maybe he was listening from a distance and didn't hear correctly. That's the joke! An innatentive narrator mishears something, and this is how rumors start.

I like it. Very subtle. Good use of misspelling and bad grammar to make us "hear" what the innatentive narrator hears.

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areallystupidguy
April 2, 2005 7:37 PM

quote:
"Fuck you! Been doin' asshole?"

That's my new slogan.

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fuzzyman
April 2, 2005 7:45 PM

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"Fuck you! Been doin' asshole?"

That's my new slogan.

The new slogan for K-Y, anyway.

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andydougan
April 2, 2005 7:46 PM

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I like it. Very subtle. Good use of misspelling and bad grammar to make us "hear" what the innatentive narrator hears.

Nah. It doesn't make any sense for him to go "Fuck you! Been doin asshole?" Why would he be so gratuitously hostile? The dinosaur hasn't done anything to him. Also, "Been doin' asshole?" doesn't sound very natural. No one would say that.

I parse it as "Fuck! You been doin' asshole?" That way, he's expressing amazement that the dinosaur appears to have been doin' asshole.

This doesn't get us any further forward on the question of what constitutes "doin' asshole". But I think that's supposed to remain a mystery. "Doin' asshole" is whatever the reader wants it to be.

As you've noted, the second panel reveals that frozenbrad is the dinosaur's mother. This does seem to make the narration in panel three a non-sequitur, but I think your explanation reads too much in to things.

In panel three, frozenbrad is facing in a different direction. This clearly shows that this panel is not part of the same continuity. It's a flashback. The scene shows what frozenbrad and the dinosaur were doing earlier: walking in a field. The brisk air made the dinosaur want a cigarette. That's why he's smoking.

And in the narration, we discover that Brad is, in fact, the dinosaur, and the character played by frozenbrad is his mother. So the comic concludes with quite a clever sting in the tale.

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CaptainObvious
April 2, 2005 7:49 PM

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What could he have been doin with Brad's mom to be smoking afterwards?

I'm not very good with subtext, but I suspect they may have been having sexual relations.

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fuzzyman
April 3, 2005 9:55 AM

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I like it. Very subtle. Good use of misspelling and bad grammar to make us "hear" what the innatentive narrator hears.

Nah. It doesn't make any sense for him to go "Fuck you! Been doin asshole?" Why would he be so gratuitously hostile? The dinosaur hasn't done anything to him. Also, "Been doin' asshole?" doesn't sound very natural. No one would say that.

I parse it as "Fuck! You been doin' asshole?" That way, he's expressing amazement that the dinosaur appears to have been doin' asshole.

This doesn't get us any further forward on the question of what constitutes "doin' asshole". But I think that's supposed to remain a mystery. "Doin' asshole" is whatever the reader wants it to be.

As you've noted, the second panel reveals that frozenbrad is the dinosaur's mother. This does seem to make the narration in panel three a non-sequitur, but I think your explanation reads too much in to things.

In panel three, frozenbrad is facing in a different direction. This clearly shows that this panel is not part of the same continuity. It's a flashback. The scene shows what frozenbrad and the dinosaur were doing earlier: walking in a field. The brisk air made the dinosaur want a cigarette. That's why he's smoking.

And in the narration, we discover that Brad is, in fact, the dinosaur, and the character played by frozenbrad is his mother. So the comic concludes with quite a clever sting in the tale.



I agree with your parsing of Brad's first utterance. But perhaps the cigaratte or the dinosaur's posture is an indication that he's been "doin' asshole."

Also, why is Brad frozen? Perhaps this has something to do with the doing of asshole. Or perhaps there's a connection with Brad being mother. My theory is that Brad is the mother of all the dinosuars who was cryogenically frozen, and has returned to admonish her ancestors for doing asshole.

Also, that last panel clearly indicates that the dinosaur was doing asshole with Brad's mother. Why they ask what they were doing when it was clearly stated earlier is unknown... but perhaps that validates my bad narrator theory.

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areallystupidguy
April 3, 2005 8:50 PM

You all make some good points. However, I think you guys need to dig a little deeper for this one. To me, it's clear that this comic is an intelligently constructed message, rife with religious metaphor. You see, Brad and his friend the dinosaur are currently living in purgatory.

As we know about purgatory, limbo, etc., it is a place to balance out and repay your sins of Earth so that you may be granted acceptance into heaven. Brad's frozenness depicts his attatchment to his former life on Earth, unable to move on to heaven due to his refusal to leave his sincs behind. Rather than simply have to carry his sins emotionally, he carries them physically as well, being frozen in place and unable to move. This is very telling of his situation, as he will not move onto heaven and will in fact be frozen in place in purgatory, so to speak, until he can leave his sins behind.

The dinosaur, however, is the opposite of Brad. His sins are washed away, happiness is his, and he is able to enjoy a smoke as he awaits his ascension into the world of God. Although, perhaps he is not going there. If one truly cannot shed their sins, their burdens become to heavy and they sink into the underworld, or hell. This seems more likely than heaven, given the dinosaur's talk of enticing Brad's mother to commit adultery.

By now we know, as readers, that the dinosaur represents what Brad will become if Brad does not change his ways. He will become a monster, and will be sent down to hell. Brad doesn't know this yet, but the dinosaur does, and is freely enjoying mocking Brad due to his inevitable fate.

The pasts of these characters are hazy. As the narrator inquires: "What could he have been doin with Brad's mom to be smoking afterwards?" Perhaps a rejection by Brad's mother cause the dinosaur to develop a smoking habit, or possibly cause him to turn to serious crimes? Intriguing.

But will Brad change his ways, rebuke his past crimes (whatever they may be) and move on to the City Of Heaven? Only future installments in this comic can give us the answer. More please, joo_joo!

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April 5, 2005 10:19 PM

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KajunFirefly
April 6, 2005 12:43 PM

I think it's clear from the first panel that the frozen Brad character is talking to the Triceratops' backside, hence he is asking the dinosaurs rectum "fuck you been doin, asshole?". This leads us to believe that below the panel there is something wrong with the creature's anus or at least something different than usual in order to make frozen brad question it.

In the second panel, the dinosaur reveals "you are mother", indicating that he was giving birth and that frozen brad is the mother. From the title of the comic we can ascertain that the Triceratops represents Brad's Dad and frozenbrad represents Brad's Mother. One can only assume that this comic is presenting the theory that in prehistoric times it was the male of a species which either laid eggs or actually carried the young around in his belly.

The last panel clearly puts forward the idea that the dinosaurs were wiped out by the males smoking, obviously causing them to be impotent and sterile. It suggests that the male was driven to smoking by his mate, possibly the pressures of childbirth along with not being appreciated by his other half was too much for him. It's a message to us all to go home and tell our wives or girlfriends or scrabble partners just how much they mean to us and to try to make them feel more loved, take an interest in their lives and thank the skies that we have someone to go home to.

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MikeyG
April 6, 2005 1:00 PM

But you're all missing out on the glaringly obvious political symbolism.

Notice how there are three panels. In the first two, frozenbrad is facing towards the right, while in the last he faces to the left. In the LAST two, the triceratops is facing to the left, while in the FIRST he was facing to the right.

This indicates that brad, being on the Left, was only looking for the faults of the Right in the beginning. Towards the end of the comic, the reference to his mother caused him to understand that one cannot find fault in the opposition if they cannot identify their own faults. Hence, towards the end brad has become enlightened and is looking closely at the rest of the Left.

The triceratops is on the Right, and is facing towards the RIGHT in the first panel. This indicates that at first the Triceratops was busy with his cronies on the Right, but in the second panel he immediately turned and faced the Left, where he remained for the rest of the comic. What this suggests is that the Triceratops spent only enough time to glad-hand his buddies before turning his gaze on the Left for the rest of the alotted "time".

Now, the interesting facet we should observe in this comic is how ONLY in the middle panel are the Left and the Right facing each other. Even though frozenbrad (The "Left")is not speaking, he is paying attention to the triceratops (The "Right"), and the triceratops is paying attention to him. As this was juxtaposed, it can only show us that both The Left and The Right need to find a Middle Ground.

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niteowl
April 6, 2005 5:28 PM

The comic is obviously about being macho and playing the role of "tough guy". In the very first panel, frozenbrad throws out some not-so-nice language in an attempt to goad triceratops into a verbal boxing match. The intonation behind the verbiage also suggests that frozenbrad is willing to throw down if need be, and in fact, is really hoping fisticuffs ensue. Frozenbrad, in his pumped up state, has been on the 'roids for a quite a while and needs to blow off some steam. If he had a microphone to rant into, he'd be the second coming of Barry Bonds.

Triceratops is obviously thrown off by the verbal attack, for there is pregnant pause while he tries desperately to think of some sort of witty retort. Thankfully, he recovers quickly and tosses out the dagger of all daggers, the "I fucked your mother" zinger. It stuns the woozy frozenbrad, since he does not speak for the rest of the comic.

The cigarette that triceratops is smoking is also symbolic of the tough guy. The Marlboro Man smokes, and you know damn well he'll whoop your fucking ass if he gets the chance. Unfortunately, a cigarette smoking triceratops is a misnomer, since triceratops (when they roamed the earth, that is) were vegetarians and more importantly, after-dinner snacks for other dinosaurs like the TRex.

The horrible misspellings the comic also add to the machoness of the dialogue, for it is common knowledge that most tough guys aren't the smartest creatures on the face of the earth. Garden slugs usually have higher IQs. That doesn't matter though, because brawn beats the piss out of brains every single time.

I'd delve into this further, but there's a wrestling marathon on Spike TV that I must watch.

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fuzzyman
April 7, 2005 3:37 AM

I think we're missing the point of using the Frozen Brad character. As stated previously, Brad is mother. The other of what? The dinosaur? Or is it something more?

I submit that Brad is not frozen, but covered in a white, gooey substance. Yes, Brad is the Mother of All -- a cosmic egg covered with the cosmic sperm of the universe.

The last panel implies that the dinosaur was ding something with Brad's mother -- the source of the cosmic egg. The dinosaur, perhaps is the source of the cosmic sperm. This inevitably leads us to a time paradox -- the dinosaur is both Brad's father and his descendant.

As his father, the dinosaur naturally asserts his authority and abuses Brad in the first panel, showing his contempt for his offsping and the universe as a whole.

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BigFrank105
April 7, 2005 5:14 AM

The comic is clearly about tacos and taco byproducts.

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andydougan
April 7, 2005 5:52 AM

I can't believe some of the crazy interpretations you folks are coming up with. Males giving birth? Machismo? Tacos? joo_joo would laugh if he could see you now.

While I stand by my original theory, that the strip can be read merely as an exciting story with a surprise ending, I admit there seem to be several levels of meaning. What no one's picked up on is the setting of the strip. Do you think this is just random? Has it really escaped your notice that the backdrop resembles the flag of Uzbekistan?

The dinosaur represents the country's dictatorship: old-fashioned, tired and reading to fall. It's hypocritical too: while preaching a sober Islamic lifestyle, it actually smokes! Brad is the spirit of the future: secular, liberal and democratic (I don't think it's any coincidence that "Brad" and "brave new world" begin with the same two letters). He may be frozen now, constrained by the country's regime, but he's out in the sun and must inevitably thaw.

Brad, the spirit of revolution, is the mother of Uzbekistan: through him the country will be reborn. Even the totalitarian dinosaur has to admit as much, and in the end, it's rendered so powerless and irrelevant that Brad simply turns his back on it.

"Doin' asshole" is probably Uzbek slang for "committing evil deeds", which of course the dinosaur-regime has been doing.

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MikeyG
April 7, 2005 6:51 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb and combine some of the better theories here.

brad is indeed covered in the cosmic sperm of the universe, and the background does indeed resemble the Uzbeki flag. But if you were to remove the horns from the triceratops, you'd notice the phallic shape of the hornless dinosaur.

The horns themselves are very phallic, so in replacing them you have a phallus with its OWN three phalluses (or phalli). Since Kaddar's "Arabian" character is not sufficiently phallic for the context, it's entirely possible this triceratops is supposed to represent the combined phallus of Uzbekistan. Since brad is Canadian, and we are all well familiar with the hideous acts of murder and oppression the Canadians have committed against the Uzbekis over the years, this comic can only be a marker of the Uzbekis' resentment.

The dialogue is incidental.

The comic's message: The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

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fuzzyman
April 7, 2005 8:28 AM

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.
That should be your new sig.

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Externalization
April 7, 2005 8:39 AM

The message joo_joo was trying to send in this comic was intentionally cryptic. If he came right out and said it directly, the wrong people might start wondering who he is and how he knows what he knows.
He's describing the secret process one goes through upon being initiated into the upper echelons of the Illuminati power structure. I'll explain the real meaning of these symbols.
The character on the right is not a triceratops. It's one of our invisible reptilian shape-shifter overlords, a descendant of the sacred Anunnak bloodline. Those are not three horns you see on it's head, but rather a mark to identify the Beast.
Compare it to this Masonic emblem:

Or this hand signal common among secret societies of the ruling class:

Similarly, the "cigarette" in it's mouth is not a cigarette at all. It's the Eternal Flame. The reptile draws power from it to show that he is one of the "lighted ones," a bearer of secret knowledge.
The character on the left is not frozen. He has just been anointed as part of his ritual initiation into this secret society. The first panel shows his first encounter with one of the leaders in it's true reptilian form. The language is deliberately stilted in accordance with the ancient traditions of Alchemists, who didn't want their text to be understood by just anyone who read it. Phonetically, it equates to "Fuck you been doing as a whole?"
Brad (or Bread, as we would more accurately call our messianic protagonist,) has gone through hell to get to where he is, and is now demanding answers from his bosses. Just what have they been doing as a whole?
In panel two, the reptilian being has turned to face Bread, signifying that he is willing to give him the answer: "You're mother"
The lack of closing punctuation after that statement shows that there is more to the answer, but joo_joo has chosen to focus on that particular facet for the time being, so we should all pay close attention to it. As is often the case, there is more than one possible meaning to the reptile's words. This could be interpreted as "your Mother" meaning Earth, which the reptiles are attempting to practice dominion over, or "You are mother" meaning that we are all The Goddess. Either way, this is a major revelation to Bread. (It would be redundant for the statement to be referring to heredity. As was already clearly established by the title of the comic, Bread is a direct blood descendant of the reptile beast, or he never would have been anointed in the first place.)
Joo_joo could only know all these things if he went through this very process himself. He obviously didn't like what he discovered once he was inside and is now trying to use internet clip-art comic strips as the means to warn the world about this massive conspiracy before it's too late for us to do anything about it.
And why is that? The answer lies in the third panel, where the importance of it all is brought to bear.
In the third panel, the author is asking the reader a direct question: "What could he have been doin with Brad's mom to be smoking afterwards?"
In other words, what could he (the Illuminati reptile) have been doing with Earth all this time that will leaving it smoking afterward? Don't you see? These creatures plan on bringing about the apocalypse itself! Our planet will be nothing but a smoking cinder if we don't heed these words and do something about this.
I only hope I haven't signed joo_joo's death warrant by revealing all this. He may be the only one who can help us.

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flipynif1
April 7, 2005 8:41 AM

LMFAO!!

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Brad
April 7, 2005 11:09 AM

I just wish you guys would keep my personal issues off this site.

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fuzzyman
April 7, 2005 8:14 PM

This is, without a doubt, the best thread I've seen in a long time. I have to hand it to you guys.

Whatever "it" is. Probably the byproduct of doin' asshole.

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cpausti
April 7, 2005 8:22 PM

You mean doin' the vayjayjay, eh?

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MikeyG
April 8, 2005 6:24 AM

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I just wish you guys would keep my personal issues off this site.

I rather think you should cite joo joo for having such intimate, if not immediately obvious, knowledge of your deeds.

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areallystupidguy
April 8, 2005 4:11 PM

If none of you fine chaps have read joo_joo's other work, I highly reccommend it. The same caliber of high brow, open-to-interpretation situations and stunning dialogue that has made "Brad's Dad?" an instant classic is flourishing all over his comic library.

He introduces such lovely characters as Biggie Dolf, who is "startin unwanted troubly". He analyses the very depths of the human psyche with the Phils In Town series, a gripping drama about deceit, love, and the common American family.

That's only scratching the surface of the vast psychological treasure to be found joo_joo's 12 comics. Someone could truly spend a lifetime analysing these. Definitely a must-read.

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fuzzyman
April 8, 2005 6:40 PM

joo_joo is humble yet enigmatic in his profile:

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Stupid, dumb ass comics. Most strips don't invlove direct comedy, just bleak yet unique. May seem prejudice but defintely not likes evertone but dosen't make a point of it.

Definitely not likes evertone!

I suggest we engage in a thorough examination of the subtext and subtlety in this gem:

/comics/joo_joo/278278/

Where to begin? First, lets look at our protagonist. His name is Pier, as in a platform extending from a shore over water and supported by piles or pillars, used to secure, protect, and provide access to ships or boats. It's an odd name for a person and most obviously symbolic. Pier, you see, represents a transition or passage: The female Change of Life. In hormanal angst he lashes out at the man in the mask.

Note that his attack is unpunctuated and therefore unfinished. There is more to come, but the man in the mask quickly cuts him off and reveals the ancient truth. We all blame our mother -- the ancient Earth Goddess, for it is indeed all her fault.

In the last panel the two asian girls standing in a field of pur white Heaven Light, representing the servant Nymphs of the Earth Goddess, explain that it is fucked up. Indeed it is, for if it were fucked down, we would be on an eternal downward spiral. No, we are fucked up, going ever upward, climbing Jacob's ladder until we achieve the ultimate Truth, represented by the three black dots in a yellow field.

It is nothing less than the Holy Trinity. The Earth Goddess, you see, is Catholic. That is joo_joo's astounding secret message to all of us.

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kaufman
April 8, 2005 7:39 PM

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Wait! Before we go on to the new comic, I haven't taken my turn!

Fuck of course is the lovable little "wehn a man loves a woman" chap. "You been" is grammatically nonsense, so it's most likely a typo. Probably meant to write "ewe bean," but got caught by a fascist spellchecker. Doin of course is the dwarf who stayed home due to a cold during The Hobbit -- he was the kid brother of Oin and Gloin. And then we get to the genius of the comic.

Asshole.

For over a quarter century, that word has been associated with one man above all others, fellow named Brad, from Rocky Horror Picture Show. So joo_joo's smacked us with a most nasty pun in panel 1 -- we were thinking that the character on the left was Brad, and the one on the right was his dad, but in reality it is the other way around. Don't judge a book by its cover!

So translating the first line, we see that Dad is warning Son that wehn a man loves (fuck) a sheep (ewe) so much that he gives it head (bean), he will likely wind up short and stumpy and sickly and with hair growing on unlikely body parts (doin).

But he ends it with a question mark. He's not completely sure. Is he relying on his son's experience to confirm what he thinks? Is Brad short and stumpy and sickly and bearded?

Before we can find out, joo_joo throws us another curve. "You're mother." But he's also father. This is obviously homage to Heinlein's All You Zombies, in which the protagonist is his own father and mother (hint: it involves time-travel and sex-change surgery). Which means, following the analogy, both characters are the same person, making the pun in panel 1 even tighter!

This is confirmed in panel 3 when both characters have completed their change of orientation. The author is practically boasting how Brad is Dad and Dad is Brad and he is mad and we are all together. See how they smoke like pigs in a poke, see how they fly.

I am dieing.

It gets better. In panel 3, we learn that he was Doin the dwarf, with Brad's mom (himself). To be smoking afterwards. He is so many people, and so confused that he spontaneously combusts. Once Brad allows four-panel cartoons, we'll see the payoff -- two burning fire props, where he/she/they/we all caught fire.

Brilliant!!!!!

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areallystupidguy
April 8, 2005 8:03 PM

On Pier The Prick:

I heartily agree with fuzzyman's statement! The Holy Trinity in that last panel never occured to me! It's good that we have a place to discuss these great works at and share ideas.

The part about the lack of punctuation with Pier's insult is very interesting. It should be noted that Pier's victim's (PV's) statement also bears no punctuation. While on first glance it can be effortlessly interpreted as a statement, where we instantly gather that PV is blaming his mother and various genetic traits which he inherited from her for making him ugly, I think it could be beyond that.

You see, PV is tormented by inner demons. His ugliness has apparently been haunting throughout his life, most likely granting him lots of abuse at school and elsewhere. He is so horribly scarred by his torment that he now wears a mask to hide his face. He has been blaming his mother his whole life on his awful physical appearance. However, perhaps Pier's comment has finally made PV see the light and stop shoving the blame onto others, wondering to himself as he looks up to heaven: "I blame my mother?"

Maybe Pier represents the emotional pier to set PV out into the ocean of emotional and mental recovery. An ocean where, on the other shore, lies redemption, and forgiveness of the one who gave birth to him. PV will learn to live with his appearance and his troubled past on his voyage, or he will sink even further.

And of course, a vast bit of irony lies in the strip's title. Maybe Pier is a prick, but he's a prick that could have inadvertently turned someone's life around, so that's certainly good for something. Maybe the heaven scene in the third panel is for Pier, not PV?

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MikeyG
April 8, 2005 8:05 PM

I think, fuzzyman, areallystupidguy, that before we move onto some of joo joo's lesser-known yet equally valid masterpieces such as "Pier the Prick" (the title alone sets off excited explosions of curious glee in my head), we should wrap up the "Brad's Dad?" conundrum.

Since not a single theory in this thread is any less viable than the next, we are posed with a question.

Which one of us has aligned themselves with joo joo's original intent the most?

I say FEH to that question and have a better solution to the problem. We must combine the best and/or most insightful aspects of each theorem and weave it into a single hypothetical tapestry. This will provide us with a brand-new, interwoven definition of "Brad's Dad", which may offer even deeper insight to the genius of joo joo.

Nay, I say ONLY by combining the best of each theory is it even POSSIBLE to attain ANY level of true understanding of the art at work here, seeing as how joo joo is on such a higher plane of perception that only by combining our collective intellect can we hope to extend a hand towards that apex.

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kaufman
April 8, 2005 8:19 PM

Two images of Pier talking to the masked men. Two Asian girls who will sell thei bodies for a mere pittance, just five dollars apiece.

I forget which mathematician proved the great theorem that 2 = 2, but it has yet to be contradicted. This comic shows the law of conservation of pictures of Pier and of little Asian hussies.

Subtract two from each side, and you're left with the conclusion:
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When you're out of sluts, you're out of Pier.

Brilliant.

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joo_joo
April 9, 2005 1:21 PM

Seriously guys, you all had great opinions on the comic, but as a the author of this comic... yes it does actually explain the stuff about the Illumni stuff.

The quaotes were taken out of context and some were modified for example;

I didn't say: Fuck you! been doin?
I saidL: "Fuck you been doin?"

there was no exclamation point between the 'you' and 'been'.

Any ways I'm still a newbie so any critism i geuss is good.

Cya

If you guys like bitchin alot, check this out:

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flipynif1
April 9, 2005 1:29 PM

YAY! I like telling people to fuck off

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fuzzyman
April 9, 2005 2:15 PM

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I saidL: "Fuck you been doin?"

This supports Kaufman's dwarf theory, to some extent. If the punctuation is

"Fuck you been doin asshole?"

On the other hand, it may represent the secret acrony of the Furry Federation, FYBDA, which stands for, "Furries Yiff But Don't Associate."

Brad, a mammal, mockingly informs the dinosaur of this secret code. The intended irony is that the dinosaur is not furry, but will be replaced by furry things: Mammals.

The dinosaur responds with a revelation. "You're mother" or "You are mother." He startles Brad with the news that dinosaurs are in fact descended from mammal-like ancestors.

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joo_joo
April 10, 2005 2:05 PM

Yeah, but still...

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joo_joo
April 10, 2005 2:08 PM

This comic is way too deep...

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fuzzyman
May 1, 2005 4:37 AM

I think we need to move on to this one:

/comics/joo_joo/278278/

My assessment (from earlier):

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Where to begin? First, lets look at our protagonist. His name is Pier, as in a platform extending from a shore over water and supported by piles or pillars, used to secure, protect, and provide access to ships or boats. It's an odd name for a person and most obviously symbolic. Pier, you see, represents a transition or passage: The female Change of Life. In hormanal angst he lashes out at the man in the mask.

Note that his attack is unpunctuated and therefore unfinished. There is more to come, but the man in the mask quickly cuts him off and reveals the ancient truth. We all blame our mother -- the ancient Earth Goddess, for it is indeed all her fault.

In the last panel the two asian girls standing in a field of pur white Heaven Light, representing the servant Nymphs of the Earth Goddess, explain that it is fucked up. Indeed it is, for if it were fucked down, we would be on an eternal downward spiral. No, we are fucked up, going ever upward, climbing Jacob's ladder until we achieve the ultimate Truth, represented by the three black dots in a yellow field.

It is nothing less than the Holy Trinity. The Earth Goddess, you see, is Catholic. That is joo_joo's astounding secret message to all of us.


areallystupidguy went on to say this:
quote:
I heartily agree with fuzzyman's statement! The Holy Trinity in that last panel never occured to me! It's good that we have a place to discuss these great works at and share ideas.

The part about the lack of punctuation with Pier's insult is very interesting. It should be noted that Pier's victim's (PV's) statement also bears no punctuation. While on first glance it can be effortlessly interpreted as a statement, where we instantly gather that PV is blaming his mother and various genetic traits which he inherited from her for making him ugly, I think it could be beyond that.

You see, PV is tormented by inner demons. His ugliness has apparently been haunting throughout his life, most likely granting him lots of abuse at school and elsewhere. He is so horribly scarred by his torment that he now wears a mask to hide his face. He has been blaming his mother his whole life on his awful physical appearance. However, perhaps Pier's comment has finally made PV see the light and stop shoving the blame onto others, wondering to himself as he looks up to heaven: "I blame my mother?"

Maybe Pier represents the emotional pier to set PV out into the ocean of emotional and mental recovery. An ocean where, on the other shore, lies redemption, and forgiveness of the one who gave birth to him. PV will learn to live with his appearance and his troubled past on his voyage, or he will sink even further.

And of course, a vast bit of irony lies in the strip's title. Maybe Pier is a prick, but he's a prick that could have inadvertently turned someone's life around, so that's certainly good for something. Maybe the heaven scene in the third panel is for Pier, not PV?



kaufman said this (though I'm trying to excize iffrom my mind with a fork):
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Two images of Pier talking to the masked men. Two Asian girls who will sell thei bodies for a mere pittance, just five dollars apiece.

I forget which mathematician proved the great theorem that 2 = 2, but it has yet to be contradicted. This comic shows the law of conservation of pictures of Pier and of little Asian hussies.

Subtract two from each side, and you're left with the conclusion:
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When you're out of sluts, you're out of Pier.

Brilliant.



Let the analysis begin!

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Inflatable_Man
May 1, 2005 8:27 AM

FUCK! How come I only saw this thread today??!

Guess I was too busy doin assholes and rolling tobacco with Brad's mom. :-(

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Inflatable_Man
May 1, 2005 8:31 AM

278402

Kaufman has some explaining to do.

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shank
May 1, 2005 7:33 PM

holy fuck....

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CowTipper
May 2, 2005 6:29 PM

I'm not Freudian expert, but I'm surprised that no one has suggested that the subject of Pier's comments represented by the chopping block character suffers from a type of Oedipus complex.

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CowTipper
May 2, 2005 6:32 PM

quote:
I'm not Freudian expert

Oops. That could be interpreted as, "I'm not a Freudian expert," or, "I'm no Freudian expert." The choice is yours.

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JESUSSANDWICH
May 8, 2005 11:44 AM

/comics/joo_joo/278270/

This one is obviously about a child who is confused about his gender and searching for his place in the world but to no avail. Which ultimately leads his to a destructive path.

The stick figures is a representation of his gender confusion beacause it does not look a man or a woman. The kangaroo is the deteiroration of his psyche to the point of violence.

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drawinger
May 30, 2005 11:19 AM

hohohoohhahahahahahah!!
you're so unfunny,it's funny

Post #177279link

Tterb
May 30, 2005 2:08 PM

Drawinger, you and your comics suck.

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BigFrank105
May 31, 2005 10:12 PM

Tterb couldn't have put it better.

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fuzzyman
June 1, 2005 2:47 AM

Actually, drawinger's comics are brilliant under the covers. Take this example:

/comics/drawinger/275589/

Now, at first glance it would seem to be an unfunny steaming piece of crap. But if you look deeper, it's realy about how there is evil in all of us -- even Jesus and squirrels.

It only takes a little push to move us over to the dark side, just like Anakin Skywalker. Here's the realizagtion that even Jesus is evil at the core shocks the evil inner squirrel to the forefront. In fact, the evil inside the squirrel is so strong that the skin of the squirrel almost can't contain it. The squirrel expands to ten times it's original size. Yes, the dark side of the force is strong in this one.

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lima
June 1, 2005 9:14 AM

I am afraid to say that i simply don't agree with these analysises of 'Pier the Prick' as a Jacobean, Neo-Philosophical piece. Granted, Evertone is entitled - and is expected - to have their own reading of such an open piece of work, but i happen to believe that my own reading - the reading that hath been percepted unto thy work thateth is there unto the page - describes the scene, and the protagonists, with a higher degree of accuracy.

I believe that the character 'Pier' represents the americanisation - or westernisation - of europe. As we can see from the imagery of Pier - the beret, the black poloneckial attire, and the ee-that-is-unto-belongeth-to-thy-goat style beard, that Pier represents a frenchman.

With this knowledge in hand, we can then start to analyse Pier from the standpoint of one who is standing unto the comic. That is, looking at it whilst trying not to tread on it.

Pier's francability - or, his ability to be french - brings into question his name itself. 'Pier' is not a french name, but 'Pierre' is. However, 'Pierre' is difficult to pronounce in the english language. If one - an english one - were to take the name 'Pierre' and pronounce it how thereunto/fore sayeth as in thy thou pronunctieth as if thy were english (i.e. if an English person, or a person hailing from the land of the americas between the British Commonwealth Nation of Canada, and the Skittish Cock-All-Wealth State of Mexico, were to pronounce the name phoenetically) then they would have trouble pronouncing the name in its true sense, or form, or neither.

Basically, 'Pierre' when pronounced properly, in a proper language, sounds like 'Pie-ruh-ree'. This pronunciation is, of course, fucking stupid.

And so what do we do?

We

In order to make the name not sound 'fucking stupid' have to make the name different. An englishman, or a man who is, or speaks, english, comma, fullstop. Cannot make him/herself sound inferior by pronouncing the name Pierre wrongly - i.e. in French - and has to shorten the name to something which is thereunto pallatable to the english language but still sounds like the wrong/french/johnny-foreigner version.

Behold! We now have Pier unto thereus.

The shortening of the name 'Pierre' or 'Pie-Ruh-Ree' to 'Pier' can be seen to represent the americanisation of european culture simply by its discardisisisiation of the last two letters.

Now, hereunto goeth doth with the secondary protagonitht. For he doth know. Oh yes, he doth.

The second character - the dude with the big massive mask - can be said to be representing the american. The American is portrayed as a masked killer. This is a metaphor for the gung-ho attitude of the American far right, especially in relation to countries which are not american. There are many countries which the americans seem to see as their enemies. Among these evil nemesis nations are The African Nation, The United States of The Rest of The World, Vietnam, The Union of Soviet Socialist Rapscallions, Canada, France and Paris. The last three in this list have a large population of people which are French. According to the average american's knowledge, about 20% of Canadians are french, 100% of people from France are french, and a large percentage of Parisians are french ex-pats. This is not to be confused with the real Paris, which is in Texas.

The dude with the mask is like, really scary, dude. This scariness relates to the aggresiveness of the americans. The fact that the scary guy has his big weapon out a lot of the time can be seen to represent the enourmity of the porn industry in america. However, this is not an important piece of information in the piece.

So, thus-far, we have the Americanised Frenchman and the Bastardised American. So what of the dialogue?

The Frenchman's use of the word 'Dude' is an obvious symbol of his americanisation, perhaps because of the close proximity to the American in the comic, as well the countries of France and Paris's close proximity to the fifty-first state of America: Airstrip One.

The American's refusal to kill the frenchman on sight can be said to be a harsh political reading of the current post-global situation in the world. The Americans are currently appeasing the french in all their cheese-eating and surrendering. As a representation of unto this hereth doth perspire, the American simply ignores ol' frenchy's attack and blames it on his parents. This could be seen to be an attack, by the author, on the author's parents or indeed the generations that have preceeded the now.

As is historical fact, the preceeding generations of americans actually helped the french. In 1916 (two years late) they kicked Germany and Austro-Hungary out of the newly-vacated-nation of France. In 1941 (two years late again) they helped kick Germany, Austria and Italy out of the vacated-again-quite-quickly-nation of France. In the early nineties the American nation of Airstrip One also assisted the french by building the Channel Tunnel. This tunnel would help the french run away quicker if they were invaded again.

The blamation by the american of his parents shows his distaste for these events, as now all he wants to do is kill the frenchy. Indeed, he refers to only his 'mother' when describing his parents. This shows the girliness of previous generations of his family and his country.

The last frame in the comic shows two Native Americans. These Native Americans are usually mistaken on the site stripcreator.com for being two Japanese schoolgirls. This mistakalakability could be said to show the ignorance of the americans about their own past. However there is a much deeper and accurate reading to be had.

This reading will come after i, Lima, have had a cigarette.

The smoking of my cigarette doth symbolicness unto thy charmingness go. And we say 'aye'.

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Chaplin
June 1, 2005 5:00 PM

Whoa.

You all are making up psychology and sceintific theories on the "Deep" comics that some should say is unfunny. But if you don't mind I'll like to take a Stab at putting reality into fictional characters made by pencils and pens.

*ahem*

I read too much of this. I forgot how this started.
My theory is they all suffer from some mental phobias.

Pier suffers from not wanting everyone to think hes weak so he bullies and picks on others to hide away his emotions.

The ChoppingBlock character Suffering Social Phobia
()
In where hes too afraid to defend himself or say whats on his mind so he blames what could be a sweet mother.

And the original comic posted the Dinosaur prouably has Caligynephobia or Fear of Beutiful women because I'm geussing FrozenBrad's mama isn't that sexy so he gets what he can gets.

And FrozenBrad may have Neophobia or Fear of Anything New like a Dinosaur screwing his mom.
Or he could have Herpetophobia also known as Fear of Reptiles because well the thing banging his mommy is a Dinosaur AKA a Reptile.

And last but not least in "Doug the Dememted"
He has Monophobia or fear of being alone because he seems to make freinds that he wants and don't have inside his head or...
Thanatophobia whitch is Fear of Death or Dying because he sorrounds himself in Others dying or protecting him from the Grim Reaper with Uzi carrying Kangeroos.

Once again psychology solves everything...
Except my obsession of B&W Comedians.

-Chaplin-

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