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Cre8tive13
November 30, 2006 2:11 PM

I find it hilarious how a comic that is initially rated GOOD by a bunch of people suddenly takes a dramatic nosedive after it's been in the Top 5 for a short time.

It's not necessarily 'sour grapes because I've seen it with other strippers comics in the past and have wonder why the comic hasn't stayed in the top?

An example is I had 6 votes and a 10 rating which put me on top....suddenly the next 6 votes bring the average down by half? Furthermore, why did people suddenly even CARE enough to rate this particular comic when there are many other comics I have created that they could have rated (good OR bad?)

So, what's going on?

1) Different senses of humour (absolutely possible)
or 2) downvoting at it's best.

My guess is the latter and preservation of the current top rated comics.

Thoughts? Am I wrong in this or has anybody else noticed this phenomenon?

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biped
November 30, 2006 2:33 PM

Yes, this happens to me pretty often.  Recently I had the top two comics, both rated 10, and before long they were on page four or five where my top-rated comics can usually be found.

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HCRoyall
November 30, 2006 2:45 PM

I think some donors cruise the toprated page every now and then simply to downvote anything that gets a 10. I don't know why, but that is always the case.

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not_Scyess
November 30, 2006 3:18 PM

quote:

Cre8tive13 wrote:
I find it hilarious how a comic that is initially rated GOOD by a bunch of people suddenly takes a dramatic nosedive after it's been in the Top 5 for a short time. It's not necessarily 'sour grapes because I've seen it with other strippers comics in the past and have wonder why the comic hasn't stayed in the top? An example is I had 6 votes and a 10 rating which put me on top....suddenly the next 6 votes bring the average down by half? Furthermore, why did people suddenly even CARE enough to rate this particular comic when there are many other comics I have created that they could have rated (good OR bad?) So, what's going on? 1) Different senses of humour (absolutely possible) or 2) downvoting at it's best. My guess is the latter and preservation of the current top rated comics. Thoughts? Am I wrong in this or has anybody else noticed this phenomenon?

Which comic is it?  Maybe the six people who would normally read your comics because they think they're funny liked it, when in reality it's crap that was exposed when it the top rated list.

 Whip it out!

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crabby
November 30, 2006 4:39 PM

quote:

not_Scyess wrote:

quote:

Cre8tive13 wrote:
I find it hilarious how a comic that is initially rated GOOD by a bunch of people suddenly takes a dramatic nosedive after it's been in the Top 5 for a short time. It's not necessarily 'sour grapes because I've seen it with other strippers comics in the past and have wonder why the comic hasn't stayed in the top? An example is I had 6 votes and a 10 rating which put me on top....suddenly the next 6 votes bring the average down by half? Furthermore, why did people suddenly even CARE enough to rate this particular comic when there are many other comics I have created that they could have rated (good OR bad?) So, what's going on? 1) Different senses of humour (absolutely possible) or 2) downvoting at it's best. My guess is the latter and preservation of the current top rated comics. Thoughts? Am I wrong in this or has anybody else noticed this phenomenon?

Which comic is it?  Maybe the six people who would normally read your comics because they think they're funny liked it, when in reality it's crap that was exposed when it the top rated list.

 Whip it out!


I'm going to say that Scyess is probably right on the money with what happened to your comics. The same thing happens to mine alot. I accept the fact that some people like my comics and others don't. The toprated list doesn't really mean anything since the same comics have held the top spots forever. It really is pointless to care about. It's just as bad as whinning about how many stars you have.

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dcomposed
November 30, 2006 4:41 PM

I just rated them all bad.

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crabby
November 30, 2006 4:43 PM

I also rate everything bad, just hoping people will start whinning about it. I do feed off of all your misery you know.

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choadwarrior
November 30, 2006 5:58 PM

I'm sure it's a combination of both, but who knows what the ratio is.

I read toprated weekly or so to see what's new, and I give each comic a fair shake. About every three months, I go through every page and give each comic a rating. Over time, I'm sure my opinion of what's good/okay/bad has changed, but in general, I don't base my rating decisions on "is this the best comic on the site and therefore deserving of appearing on the first toprated page?" If I think it's good, I'll rate it as such and I don't really care if a comic I think isn't that great is rated higher than one I do or one of mine--humor is all relative. Also, in those instances, I'm certain someone else will downvote it, so I may as well vote it good if I think it's better than okay.

I rarely vote comics bad that I discover first on toprated, but it happens. I have a pretty narrow definition for what I think is bad in the toprated arena, so I probably give more okays to comics that I think aren't good. I think in the first ten or so pages, I average 1-5 okay ratings per page.

Here's what I think when one of my comics appears at the top: "Cool, four people who like my comics liked this one enough to rate it." Then I know that people who don't think I'm the funniest human on the planet will start voting it down. It's okay--I realize I'm not for everyone. Dcom has told me several times that I keep telling the same three jokes over and over and over. Anyway, that's more or less what's happening to other users--their fans put them at the top, then the people who think the user isn't that great knock it down either for pure or impure reasons.

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crackpanther
November 30, 2006 6:11 PM

Glad someone brought this up, as I've been wondering about it as well. I think it's also worth mentioning that some people (like me) may just not choose to rate badly a comic they don't like which is not on the top comic list, but believe it deserves a fair look, for positive or negative, once it's up there. For instance, I used to work with a guy who admitted liking young(ish) girls. I didn't turn him in then, but when he becomes senator, it's zoom-lens time.

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biped
November 30, 2006 6:42 PM

quote:

crabby wrote:
It really is pointless to care about. It's just as bad as whinning about how many stars you have.

I'll never understand why so many people seem to think whining is such a bad thing.

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Cre8tive13
November 30, 2006 6:51 PM

quote:

dcomposed wrote:
I just rated them all bad.

You'd be the last person in here I'd ever expect anything different from...or care about.

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crabby
November 30, 2006 7:51 PM

Consider yourself rated bad then fella.

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AngryAmerican
December 1, 2006 6:33 AM

i generally dont look at the toprated much, i have one in there somewhere around page 41 or something, but when i do i find they've been voted good for a reason and usually add another 'good' rating to them.

it doesn't seem like people vote on individual comics all that much cuz otherwise my 'doc pembroke: sexual veternarian' series would obviously be at least on page 30, if not page 25...

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Cre8tive13
December 1, 2006 7:47 AM

quote:

crabby wrote:
Consider yourself rated bad then fella.

I was talking to Dcom...pal.

I"m not 'whining' as Crabby puts it....It was an observation and wondered what everybody thought the reasoning behind why a lot of comics don't stay highly rated for too long.

Like most people here, I'm appreciative that some people enjoy some of my comics enough to rate it good or okay and to make a comment telling me so.

Thanks to those who are adding 'valuable' input to this thread.

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crabby
December 1, 2006 11:19 AM

Consider yourself rated bad then fella.

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Cre8tive13
December 1, 2006 11:46 AM

quote:

crabby wrote:
Consider yourself rated bad then fella.

Likewise.

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dcomposed
December 1, 2006 1:00 PM

If I hadn't had you rated bad since five days after you got here I'd be doing it now.

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Cre8tive13
December 1, 2006 1:08 PM

quote:

dcomposed wrote:
If I hadn't had you rated bad since five days after you got here I'd be doing it now.

Oh, I'm crushed...cuz you are one of my favourites.

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matclarke
December 1, 2006 3:11 PM

I said this a few years ago and it still holds true:

When I first came to SC I was so intimidated. But after a few rounds of pitch and catch, I really felt broken in. I was such a good catcher! I even received a merit badge. Seriously, your mothers a whore.

Any who, there is a constant cycle that you have to come to terms with. First, you must pimp yourself out for any recognition or consideration. Initially you will get beat down like the red headed stepchild that my friend is. The best that you can expect? Meh.

Second? The few good strips that you have slowly get rated. SLOWLY mind you. Often times the GODS that be find it beneath them to rate any newbie. Now you’re moving up!

Got three votes and your on the pending list, drinks for everyone! You're a fat cat. Finally, you get that fourth vote that ushers you up to the highest echelon. Sweet Jesus the air smells great! Life is good. Tell your friends how funny and talented you are. Write home to grandma. Bask in the glory that will be swiftly ripped out of your heart. Because as soon as it’s known that a strip is rated a 9 or 10, that same strip will be promptly kicked in the junk and dropped like a herpes laden mug.

But don't mind me, I have yet to pass the third step in the Tony Robbins pyramid of success.

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areallystupidguy
December 1, 2006 5:49 PM

I never look at the top rated. If you guys ever see one of my comics as number one, tell me it is before you vote it down so I can take a screenshot of it to add to my scrapbook. I've already done this once because I knew it just wouldn't last.

And by the way, whatever happened to weighted ratings? This way a comic with a high score but a low number of votes wouldn't peak at number one, gaining unwanted attention from sore-loser regs. Besides, what really deserves the number one spot more anyway? a comic with a perfect score but only four votes, or a comic with a 8.2 and over 30? With a more complex ranking system we can easily stop the hate.

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LuckyGuess
December 1, 2006 5:58 PM

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HCRoyall
December 1, 2006 6:09 PM

quote:

LuckyGuess wrote:


That post is a cheese log.

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biped
December 1, 2006 8:10 PM

This is Mister Cheese Log.

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mandingo
December 2, 2006 4:05 AM

i think some of it is downvoting, just like the xenophobic forum downvoting of new people that dare speak. but i think the rest of it is just different senses of humor. some of the comics consistently toward the top of toprated i don't find funny at all, while others on page 8 or not on toprated at all i find the funniest on the site. the trick is not to care and just write what you find funny, but no one every listens when i say this so i'll change it and say the trick is to suck on my prickly nutsack while i jack off to episodes of Ghost Whisperer

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UnknownEric
December 2, 2006 6:49 AM

I usually check the first 2-3 pages of top rated every few days and vote for anything I haven't voted on yet. I don't downvote. If somethin's funny, I vote it funny, if not, I usually vote "okay." I really only vote bad if I have no fucking idea what the hell's going on in the strip.

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Rabid_Weasle
December 2, 2006 9:48 AM

Welcome to the internet, where everyone is a prick.

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biped
December 2, 2006 10:49 AM

quote:

UnknownEric wrote:
I really only vote bad if I have no fucking idea what the hell's going on in the strip.

 So that was YOU!

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UnknownEric
December 2, 2006 11:09 AM

quote:

biped wrote:

quote:

UnknownEric wrote:
I really only vote bad if I have no fucking idea what the hell's going on in the strip.

So that was YOU!


Ha. Biped, my friend, you're the one stripper where I like it even more the less I can figure out what's going on. :)

I was looking at the toprateds a couple minutes ago and have everything on the first five pages (save one or two okays) rated good. Which either shows that I have impeccable taste in comics, or that I'm somehow responsible for driving anything I don't like off the list. I say it's number one.

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smamurai
December 3, 2006 1:29 PM

I have had a few front pagers. Recently I had one that was doing nicely for itself, I think it was top 5 for a fortnight or so.l It went down a little. It came back up and so on until one day it dissapeared off the front page. The funny thing was it had EXACTLY the same amount of votes it had when it was riding high. Someone(s) who had previously rated it good decided to rate it bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he downrated everyone on the front page that day.

But hey, who gives a shit. People who think they are funny fuckers tend to think they are the funniest fucker. I know I am funnier than all of you but you guys probably all think the same thing (that you guys are funnier, Or me, whatever).

 

I'm still eating out of a dumpster

 

I would happily post a screenie of my front page votes if it would make people go crazy and shit. What do you think?

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FinnNYC
December 3, 2006 2:05 PM

I'm going straight to the top with this one:

375715

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niteowl
December 3, 2006 10:24 PM

286682

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biped
December 3, 2006 10:57 PM

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User #57378
December 4, 2006 6:00 AM

At least your comics make it to the top 10... wait! YOU'RE BRAGGING AREN'T YOU? I can't believe I fell for that.

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Rabid_Weasle
December 4, 2006 8:28 AM

Perhaps if you didn't have a badass clown for an avatar it would help.

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User #57378
December 4, 2006 7:12 PM

Yes... a pair of horses necks would do me just fine.

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attitudechicka
December 4, 2006 7:28 PM

You know what's really great? The fact that the front page of toprated doesn't control everything. I still see my comics now and then on the front page of this website as being a "top comic", and I assume the rest of you do as well. Either that or brad has gone to outrageous attempts to flatter me, which, in reality, probably isn't on his list of site updates. So I say if you get one up on the front page where everyone can see it, you're probably doing pretty good. Ignore toprated.

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LuckyGuess
December 4, 2006 8:11 PM

Site Update checklist:

-Add Text Editor

-Add new art

-Seduce Chicka

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User #57378
December 5, 2006 8:18 AM

It's strap-on time!!!

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Hari_Nezumi
December 6, 2006 8:34 AM

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User #57378
December 6, 2006 1:28 PM

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crabby
December 6, 2006 3:19 PM

That's just sad.

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attitudechicka
December 12, 2006 3:34 PM

It'll be gone tomorrow, but I love all five of you who made this possible:yay

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HCRoyall
December 12, 2006 7:13 PM

As of now it's still there. And you're welcome. :)

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dcomposed
December 12, 2006 10:38 PM

what do you have to hide in the last column

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attitudechicka
December 15, 2006 10:41 PM

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crabby
December 15, 2006 11:20 PM

I have never ever gave out someone an Okay vote. It just seems bad to me. I'd much rather fall into hated it or loved it than ok. OK is worse than bad.

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UnknownEric
December 16, 2006 1:46 PM

quote:

crabby wrote:
I'd much rather fall into hated it or loved it than ok. OK is worse than bad.

Eh, I give out my share of okays. My rating system is:

Good - I laughed, either on the inside or outside

Okay - I didn't laugh, but I appreciate the attempt.

Bad - What the fuck?

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crabby
December 17, 2006 1:24 AM

My reactions are:

Good- Only used for political gain.

Okay-Not used.

Bad- I happen to read your comic or see it on toprated.

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Cre8tive13
December 17, 2006 9:51 AM

quote:

crabby wrote:

Bad- I happen to read your comic or see it on toprated.



Further proof that you're an idiot.

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Humpenstein
December 17, 2006 11:03 AM

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