First off, I'd like to say that I would've called McCain President McCain and would've embraced him as my President as he would've been my Commander in Chief. Second I want to just tell you what's on my mind and not pick a fight. There's nothing more I want than understanding. I do understand the views of those who voted McCain as I held them for a good 22 years. I'm not "Right" or "Wrong" now, I'm just here...

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I'm disappointed in anyone who believes that over half of the country is unpatriotic or unchristian. Yes, there are some people that voted for Obama just because he's black or because their friends did, but don't for a moment think that there weren't at least as many people out there voting AGAINST him because he's black or they think he's an Arab Muslim. So those arguments pretty much wash.

We must NOT divide. Realize that there are many levels of kinship that we all share. If you were stuck in another country with a random American and knew no one else, would it matter if they weren't the same religion? Would their skin color matter? Would their political affiliation matter? For me, none of that would matter because I would know that when it's all said and done, we're American. This isn't just a hypothetical question, I experienced it in Iraq. I learned more about my fellow man than some people will learn in a lifetime. I wouldn't call it an accomplishment because of how it was unintentional or that somehow I'm better than anyone else because that's not what I think at all.

This fear must end. Violence begets violence. Throw away your preconceptions and start anew. The more you know about your neighbor and their beliefs and way of life, the less likely you are to raise a hand or gun or even a slighting word.

Not everyone is the same.

We are not supposed to be.

Not everyone should be one religion, color, or countryman. Why are we here if not to test how we treat others who are different? Why respond with fear or hate? Willful ignorance is concession towards hate, bigotry, and, in my opinion, stupidity.

Learn more about your fellow man or women. Discuss instead of degrade. Understanding one another is key towards survival, peace, and an under-attained quality of life that everyone deserves.

Give peace a chance. 

Also... 

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Yes, there are some people that voted for Obama just because he's black or because their friends did, but don't for a moment think that there weren't at least as many people out there voting AGAINST him because he's black or they think he's an Arab Muslim.

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I voted for Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel. Big ups to my boy Mark Kirk who isn't in my district, but still beat that snake oil salesman Dan Seals.

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I voted for Barack Obama...

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Prop 8, the anti gay marriage constitutional amendment, passed. Basically, the state known for being way liberal and accepting of others voted to restrict civil liberties.

I did some digging and 70% of african americans voted yes. People who would supposedly know how important civil rights are. I think we should put some jim crowe bill on there next year that way the homosexual community can vote in favor of it. I was very happy to see Obama was the elect, but that really tainted it.

I voted for Jimmy Smits

I voted or Obama not so much because I agreed ith his policies, but because I disagreed so much with McCain's.

Stay in Iraq for 100 years?  Bomb Iran if they get uppity?  Sarah Palin?

Obama was the lesser of two evils.  Or six evils, if you count all the other people on the VA ballot (Two Independents, the Green Party, and the Independent Green Party, whatever the difference betwen the two is).

Four more years of the status quo would have only ground us into the dust.  I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that an assasination attempt doesn't come before the new administration has time to try and fix things.

Too late.

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still beat that snake oil salesman Dan Seals.

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I voted for Crofts.

/blowing through the jasmine in my mind'd.

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Prop 8, the anti gay marriage constitutional amendment, passed. Basically, the state known for being way liberal and accepting of others voted to restrict civil liberties.

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The state is known for that only because the big cities are that way.  A huge portion of the population doesn't live in those cities.  That's why the state is always so contested during elections.  No one cares about MA because they know it's always going to vote Dem.

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I voted or Obama not so much because I agreed ith his policies, but because I disagreed so much with McCain's.

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I really hate it when I read stuff like that.  There ARE other choices besides Democrats and Republicans.  This "lesser of two evils" stuff is total bullshit... especially during this election.  If you really look at what those two were saying, there really wasn't a whole lot of difference between them.

Obama:  Let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible

McCain:  Let's stay in Iraq as long as necessary

Read those two things carefully.  They mean the same thing!!!  Obama's timetable was just BS that he could very easily justify scrapping because of any number of things that could and will happen over there.  McCain's 100 years was just hyperbole.  (Of course, it's all moot now that Iraq actually wants us out and it looks viable.)

That's only one of the majority of issues on which they were the same.  But I'm digressing.  Please.  Next election.  Have the balls to vote for someone whose beliefs you actually share more closely.  It's not "throwing your vote away" to vote for a third party.  As long as Rs and Ds keep winning, they will always look to the percentage they got of the popular vote as a "mandate."  Wouldn't it be awesome if both got less than 40%?  That would send them a fucking message.  And maybe pave the way to scrapping this stupid defacto two-party system.

And yes, I voted for Bob Barr.  And no, I haven't seen any mainstream media coverage on how any candidates did besides Obama and McCain.  How can there ever be any real change if we just keep electing the same damned people every time?

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And no, I haven't seen any mainstream media coverage on how any candidates did besides Obama and McCain. 

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My wife and I were talking about that on election night, when every network kept emphasing "the race between two men to be our next President."  Well, shit, I thought there were about 6 or 7 on my ballot.

I voted for Nader.  He was the gooder of a thousand evils.

But I do have to say, all though I was rooting for McCain all night (just becuase I'm one of those under-dog lovers, or at least people who position themselves as under-dogs) in the end, watching the crowds in Chicago, I saw (this is sappy) the face of democracy.

And yes, so what, I got a little misty-eyed.

My gf got pissed, she looked up all scowly and asked, "Are you crying?" then stormed off to bed.

But I was caught up in the history and emotion and blah blah blah. I guess I just had to allow myself a taste of it just once in this election.

Of course, the next morning, I was promptly back to criticizing an electorate that is so easliy moved by advertising dollars and fluff.

It's really to bad the first black president had to be such a tool.

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watching the crowds in Chicago, I saw (this is sappy) the face of democracy.

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And all I could think about were the hippies who got stomped 40 years earlier in that spot at the DNC.  And then I turned the TV off and put on a Phil Ochs album.

So begins the partisan wonkery and washington business as usual. I love how "change" entails a cabinet that is two-thirds comprised of Clinton folks.

Obama's "change" was always just change from W.  It's impressive he managed to sell that big steaming turd sandwich to the public, since W wasn't running.

Except for some big ideas on health care (of which everyone has their own), Obama's "change" is a move back to typical Democratic taxing-and-spending.  Although that will be a welcome change from W's spending-and-not-taxing-thus-driving-into-debt-forever, it's hardly original.

I voted for McCain, but I'll wish Obama the best. Nothing I can do about the presidency now.

I don't wish Obama the best, because I can't stand the goofy little fucker.

Fuck this ubiquitous elan surrounding the OCain victory. McBama "won". No shit. Oppression continues. We were presented by the corporate press with two identical choices. No hope for change. No real difference between the Republicrat factions. Both tools are pro-business, pro-war, and anti-equality. John Obama and Barak McCain can both eat my shit.

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 It's not "throwing your vote away" to vote for a third party.

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What, I'm supposed to vote for Nader, the guy who is so out of touch with what's going on that he can't even get on the ballot in most states?  A bunch of people I didn't even know were runninguntil I saw their names on the ballot?  Please.

On the matter of the Libertarian party, I'm a populist.  As far as I'm concerned, voting Libertarian is like kicking myself in the testicles repeatedly.

If Ross Perot had run again I would have voted for him.  Don't shove that bullshit lecture down my throat.

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 It's not "throwing your vote away" to vote for a third party.

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What, I'm supposed to vote for Nader, the guy who is so out of touch with what's going on that he can't even get on the ballot in most states?  A bunch of people I didn't even know were runninguntil I saw their names on the ballot?  Please.

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Indeed, people are so blind-sided by the mainstream coverage of the election that they can't be arsed to find out who else is running.  It shoudn't be a surprise, though, that other people were running.  You can find out who is on your ballot and what platform they support with just half an hour on your computer.

If you really thought Obama was the best of all the candadates, there's nothing wrong with voting for him.  (Indeed, compared to Bush, he's probably a Godsend.)  But at least you should admit he was "the lesser of five evils" (there were five on my ballot in MO).

I can't believe you all aren't concerned about who Obama is going to choose as his mistress. I need to know everything. Is she a spitter or a swallower? Does she have an unstained cocktail dress? How does she feel about the draperies in the Lincoln bedroom?

He's black, its not a mistress, its a "sista". Also I'm just a flat out democrat, so voting for a libertarian would do nothing for me as would a peace and freedom. I'm so liberal, I wanted Kuscinich. As such if you are gonna vote third party, you shouldve gone for Duran Duran

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 It's not "throwing your vote away" to vote for a third party.

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What, I'm supposed to vote for Nader, the guy who is so out of touch with what's going on that he can't even get on the ballot in most states?  A bunch of people I didn't even know were runninguntil I saw their names on the ballot?  Please.

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Indeed, people are so blind-sided by the mainstream coverage of the election that they can't be arsed to find out who else is running.  It shoudn't be a surprise, though, that other people were running.  You can find out who is on your ballot and what platform they support with just half an hour on your computer.

 

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I love all the cynical people screaming about 'lesser of two evils' and how the candidates are all the fucking same, blah, blah, blah.

Sure, the Govt is gonna do what it wants, when it wants, and how it wants, that's a given no matter who's in charge, we're used to it.

But the bottom line is Americans as a whole enjoy the best lifestyle of almost any country on the planet, and we still whine and cry.

So as you angry complainers sit in your comfortable chairs in front of your nice, shiny computers typing your sullen discontent in the aethersphere, take a moment to reflect on the last time you had to go hungry, the last time you had to spend a night out in the cold, or the last time you had a machine gun wielding militiaman killing your family members as you ran for the hills.

Been a while, huh?

Thought so.

Even when I was working a shitty bouncer job making about $75-100 a week, living in my 95 Corsica and friends basements, I still had things better than a large majority of the world's population.

And I still do.

End of 'count your fucking blessings' speech.

I can agree with that.  This is still a great country to live in (until our government bankrupts itself by spending more than it takes in and we're all forced to live in caves again.)  It's a (mostly) free (so far) and great country.  It's run relatively well (compared to, say, Congo or Tajikistan).  We're lucky to be here.  Seriously... you're absolutely right.

But since I like complaining even when I'm agreeing that there's not much to complain about -- I fucking hate the people who whine that they're going to move to Canada if their candidate doesn't win.  Hey!  If you were really going to go, you wouldn't be be here to whine during every election.  So fuck off.

As a Corvair owner, I'm glad that asshole Nader got what was coming to him.

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For me, none of that would matter because I would know that when it's all said and done, we're American.

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I'm not.

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I'm not.

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Nobody's perfect.

i swear to christ i'm gonna stop feeding these dogs if they don't start sniffing out the non-americans

Look, we all know the real reason Obama won, and it wasn't anything to do with the economy.  It was down to better artwork and memes.

Had the Republicans recruited Banksy, I reckon they would have squeaked through. 

Those Liberal bloggers were running out of Bush material as well. You have to admit, after 8 years they were scraping the bottom of the barrel with "143 Reasons Why Bush Doesn't Drink Socially Responsible Coffee And Is Therefore The Great Satan" and "Why Bush Assassinated JFK" are getting a bit tiresome. Plus it allows the Conservative bloggers to come up with their own lies about Obama until we elect a Republican president and then the Liberal bloggers can start anew!

Ah, the times...