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attitudechicka
September 14, 2010 7:07 AM

Welcome to the Read A Fucking Book Club. In this thread, we are going to, get this, read books. Not interested? There's the door... er, back button.

Just so there's some organization to all of this:

1. We'll all read the same book over the course of a week.

2. We don't discriminate, we'll read trashy romance novels, fantasy books, choose your own adventure, and some ez readers so that EVERYONE will have a chance to participate.

3. You don't have to sign up or anything ridiculous like that, just check in on Friday to see what book we're reading and be ready to discuss it the next friday.

4. Speaking of Friday, that's when everything happens. A book will be chosen, we have until the following Friday to read it then we will spend the next week discussing what we thought of it... which could be just generally bashing it, of course. I'd like for all forum discussion of a book to end when a new one begins so there's no confusion when someone starts talking about Boo Radley after we've all just read Green Eggs and Ham. Feel free to message another enthusiast of your book via PM to talk about the depth of Sam I Am's character, though.

5. Books of War And Peace's length may have an extra week extension.

Hopefully, everyone's clear on what I'm attempting to do here and you're all on board. Otherwise, get out of this thread. If you're having trouble navigating the internet away from this thread, please contact your network administrator.

I'll now be taking suggestions for the first book to read and try to pick one as unbiasedly as possible.

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RCCOLAMAN
September 14, 2010 8:58 AM

Ooh an online book club, sounds like a great excuse for me to abuse my sister's borders employee discount...count me in!

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HCRoyall
September 14, 2010 11:41 AM

Terry Pratchett's The Colour of Magic.

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ZMannZilla
September 14, 2010 11:49 AM

quote:

HCRoyall wrote:

Terry Pratchett's The Colour of Magic.


Seconded!

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Lord_Vodek
September 14, 2010 6:46 PM

Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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AngryAmerican
September 15, 2010 1:56 AM

I suppose I'm in. However I reserve the right to lie about actually reading said book if I'm totally not into it. (i.e. The Twilight series)

I also third the Colour Of Magic even though I just reread it for the 8th or 9th time about 2 weeks ago.

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LuckyGuess
September 15, 2010 3:54 PM

Are we reading books? I like books.

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attitudechicka
September 16, 2010 7:17 AM

Not really my cup of tea, but that's what this is all about, right?

Officially announcing The Colour (or Color)of Magic by Terry Pratchett as our official first RAFB Club book. I'm announcing this a day early because I may not be available tomorrow.

You've got a week (plus one day) to read this book and we'll begin discussion on the 24th. Please don't begin discussion until then to avoid spoilers and whatnot.

If anyone wants to post the "official" plot summary, feel free. I say official because I've already found one that made me feel as though I read the whole book and I am already spoiled.

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ZMannZilla
September 16, 2010 1:36 PM

quote:

attitudechicka wrote:

If anyone wants to post the "official" plot summary, feel free. I say official because I've already found one that made me feel as though I read the whole book and I am already spoiled.


The Colo(u)r Of Magic is the story of Twoflower (the Discworld's first tourist) and Rincewind (the Discworld's worst "wizzard").  When Twoflower hires Rincewind to be his tour guide, both get more than they bargained for thanks to Twoflower's dangerously-high levels of enthusiastic optimism.  The duo explore a unique world of treacherous sorcerors, geriatric barbarians, obnoxious talking swords, and more near-Death experiences than you can shake a scythe at.

The author, Terry Pratchett, is world-famous for his unique blend of humor, social commentary and imagination, and his Discword series reads like a cross between a very engaging Dungeons & Dragons campaign, a Monty Python sketch and a copy of the New Yorker left to sit in the Hogwarts waiting room for too long.

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User #52448
September 16, 2010 6:02 PM

what a wonderfully brilliant thread. I'm in. 

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User #52448
September 16, 2010 6:09 PM

i have just downloaded the colour of magic to my kindle, so i vote for that :)

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User #52448
September 17, 2010 7:28 AM

You know its a going to be a good book when your hooked by the first page :) ive somehow managed to avoid Terry Prattchet, so this is a really good discovery for me.

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AngryAmerican
September 20, 2010 1:38 AM

You don't know what you're missing Mr. Mallone...

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little_kitty
September 20, 2010 8:11 PM

I'm in! My husband and I tried to start an IRL book club last year, but it failed in it's infancy because he chose a book that no one could bear to read, despite its Pulitzer win. 

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UnknownEric
September 22, 2010 1:19 PM

quote:

little_kitty wrote:

he chose a book that no one could bear to read, despite its Pulitzer win. 


Gravity's Rainbow?  It took me almost a decade to slog my way through that fucker, and I still can't decide whether it was worth it or not.

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Lord_Vodek
September 22, 2010 6:55 PM

Dropped the ball this week. I look forward to the next one

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RCCOLAMAN
September 23, 2010 7:04 AM

quote:

Lord_Vodek wrote:

Dropped the ball this week. I look forward to the next one


What a shame.

In order to prevent this from happening again I think we should implement a program that will motivate today's youth to pick up a book. Its called RABDARGAB. I even have a neat commercial to explain to the kids how the program works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8u0PoIbSO8

Although I think we should change the name of the program to RAFBDAFRGAFB

Worked for me when I was 10.

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attitudechicka
September 23, 2010 8:39 AM

I'm not G'ing anyone AFB.

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attitudechicka
September 24, 2010 6:25 AM

Hi guys! Time to discuss!

 

I haven't recieved any suggestions for our next book. If I don't recieve anything of quality by this evening, we're all reading Bad As I Wanna Be, the Denis Rodman bio. Yeah, it could be THAT bad. Although, I'm sure there's an interesting chapter about dying your hair with koolaid, right?

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RCCOLAMAN
September 24, 2010 1:54 PM

quote:

attitudechicka wrote:

Hi guys! Time to discuss!

 

I haven't recieved any suggestions for our next book. If I don't recieve anything of quality by this evening, we're all reading Bad As I Wanna Be, the Denis Rodman bio. Yeah, it could be THAT bad. Although, I'm sure there's an interesting chapter about dying your hair with koolaid, right?


Anything but a sports bio!!!!   How about a history book?

The book I have in mind just so happens to have the most epic title of any history book I've ever come across!!!

Its called Honor & Slavery: Lies, Duels, Noses, Masks, Dressing as a woman, Gifts, Strangers, Humanitarianism, Death, Slave Rebellions, The Proslavery Argument, Baseball, Hunting, and Gambling in the Old South by Kennet Greenberg.

 

It shouldn't be very hard to find this gem. I suggest searching your local libraries or use Wordcat's search feature to find the nearest library that has it

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Lord_Vodek
September 24, 2010 2:39 PM

The Amulet of Samarkand by Jonathan Stroud.

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attitudechicka
September 25, 2010 11:06 AM

Liked the book that much, huh guys?

This is a great discussion.

I couldn't get through the first chapter. This book did not capture my attention. I did try to read it, but even the introduction left me confused. I was hoping that if I read further I would understand better, but I guess I got impatient.

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crabby
September 25, 2010 11:07 AM

Hell of a book club you guys have going on here.

Great job!

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RCCOLAMAN
September 25, 2010 8:15 PM

quote:

attitudechicka wrote:

Liked the book that much, huh guys?

This is a great discussion.

I couldn't get through the first chapter. This book did not capture my attention. I did try to read it, but even the introduction left me confused. I was hoping that if I read further I would understand better, but I guess I got impatient.


Yeah i had pretty much the same experience.  It got more interesting with the introduction of twoflower but the whole flatworld being held up by elephants that are held up by a huge turtle thing was a little too fiction-y for my tastes.  But i will give it another shot since you shouldn't judge a book by its first chapter...probably

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ZMannZilla
September 27, 2010 12:15 AM

So I'm gonna go ahead and say that spoilers are not OK? I'll try and keep my contribution to the first chapter then.

. . .

Wow, nothing interesting happened in the first chapter.

Twoflower's insatiable curiosity and optimism makes a great driving force for the story, and Rincewind's unapologetic cowardice pairs well with his inability to escape his obligations to Twoflower to create some hilarious moments.  I can't really state any examples though, since none of them happen in Chapter One.

Anyways, this book is simply loaded with very smart parodies of common fantasy, social and religious tropes.  The whole "disk on the backs of four elephants on the back of a turtle" thing is, for example, an exaggerated parody of Chukwa, the World Turtle of Hindu mythology.  Rincewind's inability to learn new spells is a joke on, among other things, the work of Jack Vance, whose Dying Earth series used a method of spellcasting that maintained spells were tangible entities unto themselves, and took up physical mass in one's memory.  And the sources which Death, Kring The Magic Sword and Cohen The Barbarian refer to will of course be painfully obvious.

Later books in the series are a little less high-brow with the references.  Examples include The Truth (a parody of the development of tabloid journalism), Moving Pictures (an obvious farce on Hollywood) and Guards! Guards! (a medieval-style send-up of cop movies like Dirty Harry and Action Jackson).  It gets a lot easier to read Pratchett's work once you force yourself to get familiar with the setting.

But hey, people like what they like, nothing to be ashamed of.  I do however suggest that we all first take the time to state our personal genre preferences so we don't get another week of "the first chapter didn't keep my attention"  Aside from farcical British fantasy and sci-fi, the only other books I like are either written by Vonnegut and Palahniuk or have swashbucklers in them.  For that reason, my vote is for either Invisible Monsters, Breakfast Of Champions or The Scarlet Pimpernel.

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TheGovernor
September 27, 2010 3:11 AM

It took me till I was 30 to finally read a Pratchett, not through any good reason other than I just never got around to it, though at school all my pals tended to rave about them. I did have an inkling what the discworld was about though, and was going to read them backwards (the series not books!) as I splashed out on Unseen Academicals last year which I thoroughly enjoyed. I then found a tattered old copy of Colour of Magic in a second hand book store about a month ago which kind of threw off the whole backwards plan, which I read about a fortnight ago, and so it was still quite fresh in my mind, quite handy that this was the first book chosen.  What struck me most was the difference in style, or at least severity of narrative, between the first book and Unseen.

The Colour of Magic seems to explode with many ideas and surrealism which, even prepared as I was, I could see how it may throw off a few readers and at times I struggled to keep pace with what on discworld was going on (The bizarre plane moment sticks to mind). Having said that I soldiered on and found it a very enjoyable read, Im certainly going to move on to the Light Fantastic.

I would definitely recommend reading one of the later books first, if only because it appears his storytelling skills have developed (well based on UA anyway) offering a smoother read whilst taking nothing away from the comedy going on, and I think this definitely helped when reading Colour as I had a better understanding of the universe he had created. I like to think of CoM as a pilot, brim full of ideas and setting the tone and setting for the series to follow. We are essentially given a tour of the disc from one of its major cities, to the very rim, and the various parodies on the fantasy genre which goes on within.  

Characterwise I found  Rincewind an enjoyable coward, torn as he was with protecting Twoflower to save his own skin, and simply saving his own skin.

His style reminds me a lot of Douglas Adams, which is no bad thing.  Overall I found the book an interesting read, and Id definitely say to thems that only managed the first chapter to stick with it as it does reward patience.

 

As this forum tends not to observe the laws of time or physics I think an every Friday book club may be a bit ambitious, though certainly kicking off a book every so often and setting a discussion period about a week later is a great idea, and I’ll happily chip in from time to time.

 

Bookwise I’ll probably read just about anything, and it may be worth throwing in a classic now and then since most of them you can find online for free these days, or very cheaply in shops anyway.

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AngryAmerican
September 29, 2010 1:15 AM

  Pratchett is far and away my favorite author (based amount of books read/reread). As a diehard fan I feel that he doesn't really hit his stride until about the 5th or 6th book. He's clearly still forming the Discworld in his head as he wrote the early novels and many things change/evolve as the series progresses.

  Had it been my call as to which book to start with I probably would've went with 'Guards,Guards', which is the start of the books centered on the City Watch. The great thing about the Discworld books is that you can start anywhere in the series. Pratchett tends to recap certain things in his amusing little footnotes, much like a comic book. So knowledge of the preceding books is nice but unnecessary for the later ones.

  All in all CoM, while enjoyable, comes off as clunky and hesitant compared with later novels. 

  Chicka, try again darlin. Pratchett is highly addictive once you've been immersed.

  I would also like to purpose 'Kracken' by China Mieville as our next read. I'm only 40 or so pages in and am completely hooked. Great writer....

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HCRoyall
September 29, 2010 3:34 PM

The Colour of Magic was not the first Discoworld book I read, but it is, I think, one of the best starts of a fantasy series I've ever read.  Pratchett is easy to read without being simple and has plotlines that intrigue the mind without being confusing.  In CoM he really paints the Discworld as an open world and he uses that to his advantage throughout this book and the series.  I lovehow in all the places Rincewind and Twoflower travel he gives just enough geography for you to make a mental connection but leaves it vague enough for your own imagination to do what it wants.

It's his irreverent way of handling everything that really hooks me.  He's never outright insulting anything, but points out flaws in facets of the real world in a humorous way that most people can't really do without coming across as snide or pushing an agenda.  While I would agree with AA that this is not as good as the following books in the series, the characters are still solid and the plot is pretty sound.

Discworld is not for everyone, but perhaps this wasn't the best for you to start with, Chicka.  I think a few of the stand-alones he wrote later on, such as Monstrous Regiment or Going Postal would be better.  The world is established, and, as AA said, he's found his stride as an author so they're much better reads.

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little_kitty
September 29, 2010 4:11 PM

I normally try to give a book a chance (I slowly plodded my way through William Thackeray's Vanity Fair because I loved the movie and assumed the book would be just as good... FAIL), but I just couldn't do it. Like Chicka, I had issues right from the beginning.

Sorry I can't contribute more! As for next-book (or next-next book) suggestions, I'm the queen of chick-lit. Once we all decide that's the genre, I've got tons of suggestions. I also would like to throw in any of the Dexter novels, or Robin Cook's "Abduction".

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attitudechicka
September 30, 2010 6:14 AM

Thank you for that analysis, HC. I think I liked it better than some of the summaries I read, and I know I liked it better than the book itself.

I think I agree that a book a week is too ambitious. Maybe one a month? That's how many other book clubs are set up, I'm told.

So next week I'll announce a new book, I guess since we can just ignore the thread, discussion can begin whenever someone finishes the book.

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umfumdisi
March 11, 2011 7:24 AM

Cormac McCarthy's The Road? It's brutally beautiful.

I've read it already, but I'm due for a reread.

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TotalAmateur
April 30, 2011 5:01 AM

Looking forward to meeting China Mievielle at an event in May. I have several of his books but haven't read one yet, just bought them based on friend's recommendations. I'm ashamed to admit that I thought that China was female until I saw his picture

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