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andydougan
December 23, 2001 10:29 PM

The Fellowship of the Ring has the highest imdb rating of all time.

It's a brilliant film, but I'd say this is going a bit far. It has a number of flaws, like not introducing several of the characters properly and overusing some dramatic effects. It's almost certainly the best film of the year, but ever? Nyeeeh.

Anyway, I just wondered what you lot thought of it.

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lemur68
December 23, 2001 10:38 PM

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The Fellowship of the Ring has the highest imdb rating of all time.

It's a brilliant film, but I'd say this is going a bit far. It has a number of flaws, like not introducing several of the characters properly and overusing some dramatic effects. It's almost certainly the best film of the year, but ever? Nyeeeh.

Anyway, I just wondered what you lot thought of it.



Alright everybody, like Comic Book Guy: Best. Rating. Ever!

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Wirthling_Sucks
December 23, 2001 10:40 PM

Havent had a chance to see it yet , as im stuck on the Isle of Man , and theres one showing , daily , at 7pm , and the cinema is 3 miles away , and the buses stop running at 5pm.

So i plan on seeing it when i return on the 27th.

Surprised though. It didnt do nearly as well as anticipated at the box office in the states. Over the Fri-Sun period , it was actually BEATEN by Oceans 11.

Although admittedly , it did open Wed with $17 million.

The highest ever for a midweek open.

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andydougan
December 23, 2001 10:57 PM

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Surprised though. It didnt do nearly as well as anticipated at the box office in the states. Over the Fri-Sun period , it was actually BEATEN by Oceans 11.

Well, it's been known to be a bit unreliable, but the imdb claims LotR grossed over $30 million more than Ocean's Eleven in the US at the weekend.

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Wirthling_Sucks
December 23, 2001 11:18 PM

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Surprised though. It didnt do nearly as well as anticipated at the box office in the states. Over the Fri-Sun period , it was actually BEATEN by Oceans 11.

Well, it's been known to be a bit unreliable, but the imdb claims LotR grossed over $30 million more than Ocean's Eleven in the US at the weekend.

IMDB is taking the collective Wed-Sun figure , which is roughly $32 million.

Oceans Eleven took $22 million Fri-Sun
LOTR took just under $18 million Fri-Sun

but it took $17 million Wed-Fri

I have no idea why they take the figures Wed-Fri AND Fri-Sun when theyre going to overlap , but then again , thats prolly why i dont work in Hollywood.

Lord of the Rings $18,200,000
Ocean's 11 $22,076,664
Vanilla Sky $25,015,518
Harry Potter $9,919,596
Not Another Teen Movie $12,615,116

Box Office Data provided by Exhibitor Relations Company

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ladyjdotnet
December 23, 2001 11:45 PM

LOTR had the 3rd highest Wednesday opening ever, which is considerable since they haven't been doing Wednesday openings for all that many years.

I may have gone into the movie with my expectations too high. I felt it met my expectations, and did not exceed them. I was a little distracted by the height effects for the hobbits.

In any event, given that I went into it expecting it to be fucking slickass-kickass and it met my expectations, it did ok. Especially considering that the seats we had were in the second row and I could only look at about 1/3 of the screen at any one time, and my back was hurting from slouching down in the seat.

I did find myself MiSTing at a few points, and my boyfriend kicked me. Well, when Gimli pledged his axe to Frodo 3 minutes after busting it to pieces on the ring, I just couldn't keep from whispering a smartassed comment under my breath. You know how it is.

I am very much looking forward to the other two movies.

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lemur68
December 23, 2001 11:57 PM

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I am very much looking forward to the other two movies.

I need to read them again before The Two Towers is out, so it will be fresh in my head and I won't have to struggle to remeber stuff I read over a decade ago....

Yes, Lara, I'm gonna totally geek out over it. Deal.

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itsclark
December 24, 2001 7:10 AM

I think I'll wait for the novelization to come out.

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Wirthling_Sucks
December 24, 2001 8:50 AM

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I think I'll wait for the novelization to come out.


Im waiting for it in Hardback with a genuine Tolkien Hologram sticker.

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Wirthling_Sucks
December 24, 2001 8:50 AM

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I think I'll wait for the novelization to come out.


Im waiting for it in Hardback with a genuine Tolkien Hologram sticker.

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itsclark
December 24, 2001 11:15 AM

A whole movie about halflings on an epic quest to destroy an object of great value? I'll probably see something like that for free at the Christmas party if I follow my nephews around long enough.

The books were actually required reading for my entry into the Geekhood. But I think I'll wait for the movies to come out on DVD. Anytime a flick runs over two hours, I like to be able to watch it in installments. Maybe it's because I've ruined my attention span with video games and... what was the topic again?

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gabe_billings
December 24, 2001 11:18 AM

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I did find myself MiSTing at a few points, and my boyfriend kicked me. Well, when Gimli pledged his axe to Frodo 3 minutes after busting it to pieces on the ring, I just couldn't keep from whispering a smartassed comment under my breath. You know how it is.

HAHAHAHAHA. You crack me up.

I saw it twice; once on Saturday and once on Sunday. I had the luxury of numerous multiplexes showing the movie on 3 or 4 screens so I got nice seats both times.

I had a few times where the MST3K comments had to come out. I felt a need to start talking like Mr. Smith from the matrix every time Elrond was on the screen. 'No lieutenant, your men are already dead.' That got me smacked at least once.

And I agree that the height thing was really fucking with my head. Sometimes it was obvious that they were shooting real midgets from the back or from so far away you couldn't see their faces, and then there'd be a time when you'd see big people and hobbits on the screen at the same time. Sure Sean Astin was short in the Goonies, but I know he's got to be taller now. I think. Unless they zapped them all with some sort of shrink ray. They might have done that.

There were a few little things that annoyed me. In one scene, right before the hobbits make it to the ferry, there's a shot of one of the nasty black horsemen of death silhouetted by this ridiculously bright light. Sure it's kind of a neat shot but it's not like seeing a little moonlight shining on from the other side. It's like there's one of those fucking eight billion candlepower Batman-calling floodlights twenty feet away. What's up with that? My suspension of disbelief can handle fire demons and giant spooky mutant octopuses, but not out of place lights.

But I'm a picky bastard.

I also think it would take a hell of a lot more to pull down a tree than a bunch of pansy ass goblins with some ropes. They should have used Humvees.

And it would have been nice if Liv Tyler lost her clothes once or twice. Screw the PG-13 rating.

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KajunFirefly
December 24, 2001 11:30 AM

I loved it, I also went into the cinema with a lot of expectations, and wasn't dissapointed, and, I also had a shit seat which made me uncomfortable, but I still loved it.

What a great film, the effects were fantastic and it's definitely the best film I've seen all year, although, the only real complaint I had was that it didn't come to any sort of ending.

What made Star Wars so popular was that you could watch "A New Hope" with absolutely no idea that there were another 2(5) films to go with it, and be happy, it had a beginning and an end, each film came to a conclusion. LotR just seemed to drift off, which meant that when I was walking out the cinema I was left feeling empty and didn't really know what to say. But when I thought about it, I realised I had just watched 3 hours of pure genius.

I give it 9½ Fireflies out of 10!

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lara7
December 24, 2001 11:31 AM

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Yes, Lara, I'm gonna totally geek out over it. Deal.

Hey, fine with me. Just remember that if you try to converse with me about it, it'll go something like this:

lemur: "And the part with Frodo where he was..."
lara: I like cake!
lemur: "...But they cut put the whole part with Tom...."
lara: I like cake!

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R3dM3nac3
December 25, 2001 1:40 PM

On the whole, yes, this was an awesome movie and I want to see it over and over again. The film could have used some work as far as editing went, and introduction to the characters (they could have cut out some of the unecessary stuff in favor of some scenes introducing us to the members of the fellowship a bit better), but for the most part, it was incredible.

But, yes, to be honest, there was MSTing abound in this movie.

"And you have my AXE." "Uh, you mean the axe you just smashed into pieces? Gee, thanks."

"I hate Rivendell. It's the smell"

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DexX
January 1, 2002 7:04 AM

Since I'm an Aussie, I had been seeing Hugo Weaving around for years before The Matrix came out. As such, he is not 100% Agent Smith for me. Even so, I couldn't help hearing him, as he saw Frodo for the first time, saying, "Mister Unnnderhill."

If you like him as an actor, some must-see films of his are Proof and The Interview - both are favourites of mine.

Oh, Fellowship of the Ring... loved it, but I had a similar problem to LadyJ - second row from the front, way off to one side. I saw the screen all right, but after three hours my neck was throbbing.

Highlights:
The Balrog - I wish we could have seen more of it. One of the most amazing all-CGI things I have ever seen.
The Ford of Rivendell - A sequence which doesn't get a lot of attention, but one which I was really looking forward to. It was done beautifully, with just the right balance of natural water versus horse-shapes.
The sneak peek at Minas Tirith - It was little more than a teasing glimpse, but still...
The height effects - Utterly flawless. By the time Frodo and Sam had set out for Rivendell, I was already so convinced of the illusion that I was seeing them as being small without any big people around to reinforce it.

Disappointments:
Cut scenes - I worked out what PJ and co were aiming for with their trimming of the story: basically, cut out everything that was not story. As such, I can understand losing Tom Bombadil (who I never liked much anyway) but the Barrow Wight sequence was a sad omission, even so. How the hell Merry (or was it Pippin?) is going to get hold of that witch blade now I have no idea.
Dodgy effects - While the "slow" effects (Rivendell, various landscapes, size-differences) were brilliant, some of the "fast" effects were somewhat dodgy and/or inappropriate. The worst special effect in the film is, I think, when the Fellowship charges through a massive hall in Moria. The camera zooms out into the distance, and all of them are replaced with fully-CGI stand-ins. The trouble is, they are not even remotely convincing. Gandalf is in front at the time, and his running gait is completely different from the CGI replacement's. In the same sequence, a virtual "camera" zooms around the hall, and its ridiculously fast movement highlights the fact that the hall is CGI.

I am going to have to see it again before deciding how much I like it (same with Harry Potter, actually) but I definitely liked it very much on first viewing.

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andydougan
January 1, 2002 1:54 PM

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The Ford of Rivendell - A sequence which doesn't get a lot of attention, but one which I was really looking forward to. It was done beautifully, with just the right balance of natural water versus horse-shapes.

Yeah, but it reminded me a little too much of a certain Guinness advert...

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While the "slow" effects (Rivendell, various landscapes, size-differences) were brilliant, some of the "fast" effects were somewhat dodgy and/or inappropriate.

Maybe so, but one of the more impressive effects of the film, I thought, was when the camera zooms at speed from the top of Orthanc into the pits where Saruman's army is assembling.

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How the hell Merry (or was it Pippin?) is going to get hold of that witch blade now I have no idea.

Word is they're going to make the Witch King vulnerable to normal weapons. Bit of a cop-out, but I doubt those who haven't read the books will miss it much.

Your confusing Merry with Pippin highlights another of the movie's failings. M&P were totally interchangeable. In the book, they were quite distinct, but I kept mixing them up in the film. I think Pippin was the Glaswegian...

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