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JrnymnNate
January 16, 2002 1:40 PM

I remember hearing Brad and DexX talking about this once; I got it yesterday.

anyway, I saw enough of it to know that its a FREAKING AWSOME GAME MAN!!!

So, as you know, you can go through the game in a various number of ways(role-playing aspect), like you can kill everyone and be dissed by the general and panseys, use skill and have people say you're like your brother, etc.(at least in the begining).

So I was wondering how you approached it, or what was your favorite approach? To anyone whos played it.

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boorite
January 16, 2002 2:00 PM

My approach is to kill the blue meanies but not the red ones.

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KajunFirefly
January 16, 2002 2:04 PM

You eat the special pill thing that means the ghosts don't eat you....YOU eat the ghosts!!!

(secret tip: leaving out one side of the screen, brings you back in the other)

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boorite
January 16, 2002 2:07 PM

Yes, and avoid using hyperspace unless you are about to die.

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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
January 16, 2002 4:45 PM

And remember , theres no bullet time.

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israphael
January 16, 2002 8:11 PM

And no matter how much it entices you, don't push the History Eraser Button.

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krinkle
January 16, 2002 8:12 PM

after you pick up the bar tips, you don't have to run all the way back to the end of the bar. just press up or down and through beer-magic, you'll teleport there.

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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
January 16, 2002 9:04 PM

Oh oh oh

I nearly forgot.

Those guys shooting at you. You dont have to kill them , just walk up to them , avoiding their fire , and shake hands with them. They just want to take you for a beer or two.

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Brad
January 17, 2002 4:05 AM

quote:
I remember hearing Brad and DexX talking about this once; I got it yesterday.

anyway, I saw enough of it to know that its a FREAKING AWSOME GAME MAN!!!

So, as you know, you can go through the game in a various number of ways(role-playing aspect), like you can kill everyone and be dissed by the general and panseys, use skill and have people say you're like your brother, etc.(at least in the begining).

So I was wondering how you approached it, or what was your favorite approach? To anyone whos played it.


I've played it twice. I probably had more fun the second time because I had realized from my last experience that you don't actually have to worry about exploring every single area like in most shooters. Just try to get through the level and don't worry that you're missing something important. It'll let you know if you are.

I had decent weapon skills and high hacking. The hacking is great and means that you don't have to go screwing around looking for passwords and logins for all the security terminals. And being able to get into the security terminals lets you turn robots and machine gun turrets on your enemies, which is really really fun. I hope that in Deus Ex 2 they let you ride the giant white robots like a cowboy while it annihilates terrorists for you.

Uh, what else... gas grenades are great. You don't get that many, so make them count. You can take out twenty bad guys with a well placed gas grenade and then shooting them all with your pistol.

EMP grenades are kind of useless and you don't get very many. The same with those PS20 things. They're inventory space thieves and I suggest you use them right away or drop them once you fill your inventory up.

I had been meaning to go back and play it through fully cheated up and maxed out, but I haven't had time. It's a really excellent game and I'm looking forward to the sequel.

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DexX
January 17, 2002 6:43 AM

Italicised bits are what Brad said...

...you don't actually have to worry about exploring every single area like in most shooters.

I can't help myself. I am kind of anal retentive when I play 3D shooters and 3D RPGS, and I really enjoy finding every nook and cranny in a level, picking up every useful item. It's an important part of my fun, for some odd reason.

I had decent weapon skills and high hacking. The hacking is great and means that you don't have to go screwing around looking for passwords and logins for all the security terminals.

That said, they are never hard to find. In my playing of the game, I only ever had a lot of trouble with a single password. They tend to be laying around, not too far from where they are needed. I had more fun cranking all my combat skills. By the end of the game, I could aim a sniper rifle at maximum zoom without the slightest tremor from my hands.

And being able to get into the security terminals lets you turn robots and machine gun turrets on your enemies, which is really really fun.

Oh yeah, it sure is. Nothing quite like seeing and hearing the bad guys being cut down by their own turrets. *grin*

You can take out twenty bad guys with a well placed gas grenade and then shooting them all with your pistol.My record was eight enemies with a single gas grenade. You get them standing there rubbing their eyes, and a single headshot from your pistol drops them. My eight were sitting and standing around a big boardroom table. I tossed the grenade into the centre of the table... blam blam blam...

EMP grenades are kind of useless and you don't get very many.

Not true - a single well-thrown EMP grenade will "kill" almost any robot in the game, with the exception of the really huge military-grade robots, which take two. Well, in practise they usually take more than two, because it is difficult to throw a grenade accurately when your body is being ripped apart by twin miniguns...

The same with those PS20 things. They're inventory space thieves and I suggest you use them right away or drop them once you fill your inventory up.

They are handy early in the game when you are low on ammo, because you pick up a lot around the place (three just in the first level, as I recall) and they deliver a surefire single-shot kill if you get in close.

If you like Deus Ex, give System Shock 2 a go. A similar game, from the people who made the Thief series - the sadly defunct and sorely missed Looking Glass Studios. it is now old enough that you oould pick it up for next to nothing.

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JrnymnNate
January 19, 2002 11:01 PM

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If you like Deus Ex, give System Shock 2 a go.
Thank god for the new games and books i've found due to this forum.

Anyway, I'm now halfway through the game... at Area 51. I opted to go the bad boy route(kill everything but the inocents), and chose to upgrade everything to trained, with advanced hacking, suitskill, pistol and rifle.

I also have a nifty asult riffle that Ive kept since i left the Unatco HQ at the statue. Its got the silencer, 2 or 3 acuracy, 1 or 2 recoil, 1 clip, 1 range, and (i think) a damage and scope. nice piece cause with advanced rifle skills, i can just point and shoot and not worry about recoil or anything.

MiBs suck.

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DexX
January 19, 2002 11:56 PM

MiBs certainly do suck.

WiBs are nasty, too.

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JrnymnNate
January 24, 2002 12:31 PM

quote:
Italicised bits are what Brad said...
Bold bits are what dexx said

I had decent weapon skills and high hacking. The hacking is great and means that you don't have to go screwing around looking for passwords and logins for all the security terminals.

That said, they are never hard to find. In my playing of the game, I only ever had a lot of trouble with a single password. They tend to be laying around, not too far from where they are needed. I had more fun cranking all my combat skills. By the end of the game, I could aim a sniper rifle at maximum zoom without the slightest tremor from my hands.



Did you know that if you have master level skills with a rifle you can destroy turrets and camerams with one shot?

Oh yeah.

Also, an interesting thing I noticed second time around the game was, in Hell's Kitchen, if you go to meet Smugler before the game goes anyfurther, he tells you about a friend of his somewhere in the sewers. If you go to those grates in the street and down to where that secret area is under the block, you find Mj12 troops(before you know what they are), and that area that has the cave in is normal. It's some kind of testing facility or whatever. Anyway, there's weapons down there and more importantly, skill points.

Also- dealing with Navarea. If you manage not to get killed at Paul's apartment(whatever you do DONT go out the window- he automaticly dies), you can continue to mow down enemies to the subway station. There you meet Navarea, and can kill her(be carefull, she cloaks like Simons). I wouldn't advise trying to kill Gunther- I think he's invicible.

Anyway, that way you won't have to deal with her later. If you don't manage this and wanna use the killphrase, 1's on Navarea/Gunther's, and the other part's on Manderly's computer. The codes for both of these are in a cabinit in the Nanotech lab of Level 4. You can get in the cabinit by knocking out the MiB there instead of killing him.

Maybe you knew all this. Or most of it.

And no, I didn't walkthrough.

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JrnymnNate
January 24, 2002 12:34 PM

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Anyway, that way you won't have to deal with her later. If you don't manage this and wanna use the killphrase, 1's on Navarea/Gunther's, and the other part's on Manderly's computer. The codes for both of these are in a cabinit in the Nanotech lab of Level 4. You can get in the cabinit by knocking out the MiB there instead of killing him.

Oh yeah, or you can hack it(duh).

And I meant I didn't use_a* walkthrough.

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DexX
January 25, 2002 4:11 AM

Like I was saying earlier - I make sure I find every nook and cranny in every level. If there are still bad guys alive and conscious, the level isn't finished yet. As such, I found that hidden facility before I was even asked to look for it. Once the guy asked about his friend, I thought, "Oh, _that_ place..." and went to get him.

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kramer_vs_kramer
January 25, 2002 4:21 AM

That reminds me, I need to get my copy back from one of my friends. I've been meaning to replay it ever since I found out you can chop through doors and security terminals with the lightsabre if you put all your skill points into hand to hand combat, and upgrade your combat strength to the maximum.

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