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KajunFirefly
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Bah! Switzerland didn't deserve to be beat 3-0 at all, after they went down to 10 men they seemed to lose their edge, England were awful again, I don't mind England winning if it's an entertaining match*.

Come on the Croats!

Dado Prso, by my hero!

*of course I fucking do

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6-17-04 11:58am (new)
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jes_lawson
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Flat Track Bullies 3, Merchant Bankers 0

Not a great display by England by any means, but a decent one at least. The score flattered them - the guy with the Turkish name they had up front was destroying them from set pieces. But England had so much space down the left they couldn't *not* score, and the forst goal was deserved. Next two were down to the dismissal of Haas; The England players got the space which they're used to in the Premiership.

On form, I would expect them to sneak through to the next round, it depends which Croatian team show up. Which means they'll draw Greece in the next round, who I'd rather play than Spain/Portugal

France/Croatia was cracking in places.

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6-17-04 2:28pm (new)
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ftc
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It was a good enough game. Rooney is playing well. Michael Owen is playing shit and he knows it too. The second goal was funny;the ball hitting off the post then off the keeper's head and in.

Gerrard played well which makes up for his vital mistake against France. I dont like when England win but i kinda want them to make it out of their group as their not the worst team to watch, but they better not make it too the semi's!

So who is everyone rooting for?? :\

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6-17-04 4:03pm (new)
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Bazilla
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So who is everyone rooting for?? :\

Denmark. Though I think Germany will win.

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6-17-04 4:46pm (new)
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jes_lawson
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- the guy with the Turkish name they had up front

they being Switzerland, the Turkish guy being Hasan Yakin. He was better than Beckham. Heck, he IS better than Beckham!

My money is on Germany, but any one of a number of teasms could win.

Except Latvia, crabby. Sorry mate, but they're not going to win. They're pony.

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6-17-04 4:55pm (new)
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Chi_The_Cynic
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The Croatia/France game was quality - I was really hoping Croatia would beat France, and they did have a chance towards the end if they'd handled it a little better... was good to see France given a run for their money, I felt.

I haven't been especially impressed by England's performance so far, and I wouldn't be surprised if Croatia took them by surprise (i.e. England are behaving pretty complacently, and the Switzerland match has probably done them no favours in that respect) and won. I'm not saying I would want that, but I could see it happening.

6-17-04 6:03pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
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I'm backing Sweden, they have a lot of exciting players to watch. Zlatan, Ljungberg and.... what's that other guy's name?

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6-18-04 11:07am (new)
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lukket
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I'm rooting for Denmark (of course). I doubt Germany will win - the way they play right now, anyone will be able to win or get a draw against them. Italy also disappoints very much right now.

I'm really impressed with the Czecks, and they could be a surprise winner.

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6-20-04 4:50am (new)
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jes_lawson
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Having seen them last night I'd agree with lukket, my initial enthusiasm for Germany has fallen away. We had a good old discussion about this last night - evryone agrees this tournament is wide open.

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6-20-04 1:35pm (new)
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ftc
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I'd say Sweeden could win it, but Czech Republic could cause them problems.

Is it just me or is England's football very boring to watch, they don't really have much skill.

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6-20-04 1:42pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
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I think Denmark will go crashing out on Tuesday, Sweden only need to draw to go through and I'm pretty sure Italy can beat Bulgaria, they've been completely awful so far.

England have been fairly boring, but not nearly as boring as some of the yawn-fests so far. Denmark vs Bulgaria was worse than some of Rangers' matches this past season. Tough game against the Croats, I'm hoping Sven and co underestimate them, although I will be just as happy seeing Portugal beat them in the quarter finals.

Holland vs Czech Republic was one of the greatest games of football I have ever seen in my entire life, such drama, such skill, that's what football is all about right there.

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6-20-04 4:58pm (new)
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jes_lawson
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Holland vs Czech Republic was one of the greatest games of football I have ever seen in my entire life, such drama, such skill, that's what football is all about right there.

Bah, I only saw bits of that as I was on a stag night, trying to find the mystical "Bar Where The Ladies Take Their Bras Off" (we didn't find it)

First of all may I say I think Rooney is overrated. I thought Owen was overrated when he blew up at France '98, now he needs to have a bit of skill and not just speed, he's finding it tough at the top. Having said that he played well despite not scoring. Rooney is in that phase now; he'll cool off in a few years.

Again England's total inability to defend set pieces let them down. Figo will have a field day in the next round.

That said, magnificent game with some absolutely stunning goals.

Let's hope Sweden vs. Denmark is as competetive as the hype. Wouldn't a 2-2 draw would eliminate Italy?

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6-22-04 2:35am (new)
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Chi_The_Cynic
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I actually thought the England vs. Croatia match was really exciting to watch, definitely the best match England has played so far this tournament. The first goal scored by Croatia at the beginning was just the kick in the pants England needed to get them to do something - and they did deliver. Portugal vs. England will hopefully be just as gripping.

6-22-04 4:12am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
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I was disappointed big Dado didn't single-handedly rip the English apart. He's obviously saving himself for Motherwell and Inverness Caley Thistle.

6-22-04 8:19am (new)
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lukket
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Italy is out! Yay! They were really getting on everyone's nerves with their innuendo's and spitting and whatnot. The Denmark - Sweden match was very great, and if not Denmark had those couple of off-periods, we would have won.

Exciting matches tomorrow; anything could happen in that group (yeah, I know, the Czechs will win)

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6-22-04 2:28pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
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On the contrary, I think tonight's football was quite gripping, Sweden grabbing the goal that merely seconds later would be so important, watching the Italians celebrate the goal they needed and being informed that it was useless, that's better than any other shitty ITV drama you get.

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6-22-04 3:45pm (new)
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Bazilla
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The only problem about the Denmark - Sweden game was that LARSSON'S A DIVING FUCKING CHEAT.

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6-22-04 11:04pm (new)
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jes_lawson
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Hey, any Rangers fan with even a small amount of alcohol related mental illness will tell you that.

I'd have rather watched the Denmark-Sweden game, but Bulgaria-Italy did indeed turn out to be dramatic.

Italy's time in the Euro championships was spent like they were the kids at school who bunked off lessons and went to parties at weekends instead of studying, only to cram at the last minute and still get an A. But this time the shoddy coursework they handed in that they should have been working harder on this past couple of weeks has condemned them to a life of sitting outside the library looking broke and unshaven while the less bright but more industrious kids get to party because they got accepted to university.

Whether those industrious kids swapped answers or not is irrelevant.

Man, I missed my calling. I should have been a sports writer.

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6-23-04 2:28am (new)
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KajunFirefly
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Well, yes, but I don't remember him doing anything like that during his time at Celtic...

that's Petrov's job.

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6-23-04 12:22pm (new)
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jes_lawson
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Again, a team goes out not for lack of skill but for lack of industry and invention. OK my money is now on the Czechs, they were hard working but their passing was superb - if they keep it up as well as their dynamic running they can go all the way. Plus Baros's goal was a stunner and Heinz's free kick was stupendous (I think I actually described it as "a bit crispy" at one point)

If you haven't seen it, you really need to.

Too close to call tonight, I'd like to back England but it could be another penalty shootout nightmare. I think we need to see which Luis Figo turns up though, and whether England will bother defending set pieces - I can almost put money on Gary Neville doing something stupid.

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6-24-04 4:09am (new)
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KajunFirefly
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You have to also remember that the Czechs rested most of their top players last night and still beat Germany. Sure, Germany had a lot of chances in the second half and some say they should have scored, but every shot had a defender, or a goalkeeper, or both blocking the way, which is their job, it's not bad luck, it's just good defending.

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Too close to call tonight, I'd like to back England but it could be another penalty shootout nightmare. I think we need to see which Luis Figo turns up though, and whether England will bother defending set pieces - I can almost put money on Gary Neville doing something stupid.

My money is on England, sure, I have a slight advantage as it's 20 minutes in and England are already a goal up, but I've been saying it all day.

England and Czech Republic in the final, I hate to say it, but I see England making it that far.

Not any further though.

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6-24-04 12:01pm (new)
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ftc
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Gawd, it would be terrible if England won it. You'd never hear the end of it. They still brag about '66.

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6-24-04 1:14pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
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AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man, I'm going to the pub a happy, happy man.

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6-24-04 2:39pm (new)
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jes_lawson
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Top 5 reasons why England lost

5. What the hell was that penalty spot made of? Fibreglass? Play-Doh? It doesn't excuse England blowing yet another penalty shoot out, but it makes for a good whingy intro.

4. Sol Campbell's disallowed "goal" - I can see how the ref disallowed it, Terry and Campbell were in pretty hard on the goalie. Borderline.

3. Beckham, off the back of a disappointing season with Real Madrid and too much publicity, looked jaded. His penalty was arse and his play throughout the tournament was uninspired. I expect more of the captain who takes the first spot kick, at least Gareth Southgate hit the target when his penalty was saved in '96. Overhyped; underperformed.

2. Losing Rooney early on led to a tactical problem which Sven, again, failed to deal with. I'd have replaced Rooney with Heskey when he went off after 25 minutes - Like for like - one big strong lad for another. And I'd have kept Scholes on for another 10 minutes. Eriksson has managed the squad well, but his tactial thinking leaves a lot to be desired and I wouldn't be surprised if he moves on soon.

1. The England squad were, with the exception of Rooney and Hargreaves, grossly unfit after overly long seasons with their clubs. Having few players with real skill, england rely on working hard and being organised. When they lost their legs, usually around 75 minutes, they got dicked upon royally.

Well that's that. Maybe I won't see so many of those wank looking flags stuck to the side of people's cars. Time to get back to enjoying the games as a neutral.

PS - Kajun. What's the Gallic for Schadenfreuede

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6-24-04 3:08pm (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
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That game was like some kind of beautiful dream.

6-24-04 3:31pm (new)
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