Greenville.

All the freestyle BMXers live there.

I could learn stuff.

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Drexle looks like a young, longhaired version of Kaufman in his new pic.

I live in CT, but any more specific than that and I'll be hunted down and killed by the ninjas that swore an oath to kill me thousands of years ago.

Maybe bunner remembers...
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I live in CT, but any more specific than that and I'll be hunted down and killed by the ninjas that swore an oath to kill me thousands of years ago.

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I live in CT, but any more specific than that and I'll be hunted down and killed by the ninjas that swore an oath to kill me thousands of years ago.

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You don't rate ninjas. Or an oath. Some Trekkie hired me to kill you for ten bucks and a copy of Spider Man #14 in "fine" condition.

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What?!?
BLASPHEMY!!!
No friggin way are the X-men better than spiderman. Being a huge comic fan, through years of research, Spiderman is in fact better.
In my opinion, the only X-men who were cool are Gambit and Psylocke.
Let's compare:
Costume:Webbed Blue and Red as opposed to yellow or blue spandex. Pulleeeze!
Powers:Super Strength, Web slinging, wall crawling action as opposed to...Lazer eyes? Come on!
Jobs other than crime fighting:Photographer as opposed to...nothing.
Not to mention the X-men hang out at a college and take orders from a crippled bald guy.

So, Nate, can this be debated further, or have I won?
(and others,please feel free to join in, as I would like to hear your opinions on the two.)

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The X-Men are awesome because they're so widely varried in their powers. If I'm not mistaken, Spiderman does reside in the same universe. Which would make him a mutant. The yellow spandex is OLD (in case you didn't realize it), and the stories go beyond Xavier's mansion. The school was just a training ground for the "Xmen" and there are other teams of mutants in the world.

In a fight, there are plenty of mutants that would win hands down to Spiderman. And read up on, or at least tell me why you dislike some of the others(Nightcrawler, Angel, Jean Grey, Quicksilver, Bishop etc etc.)

You wanna know what Spiderman is about to me? A dorky news guy(worse than Clark Kent) who fusses about his wife and fights stupid super-villains. A insane editor at the paper that's obsessed with Spiderman. Dumb bad guys with weird suits and powers with little or no back story(especially in the paper). Plus, Peter Parker decides to quit so often lately that any super-hero agency would fire him immediately for tardiness and inconsistency!

Costume: Red and black and blue to widely varying outfits- tons of designs, some dorky, some not.
Powers: Super Strength, Web slinging, wall crawling action as opposed to... Laser eyes, claws, regenerative factors, psyonics, telekinetic, weather control, elemental control, physical abnormalities, energy absorption, etc etc...
Jobs other than crime fighting: Photographer as opposed to... training and study as well as full time life, accepting what they are and not hiding it.

Secret Wars: Spider-Man took on -- AND BEAT -- the entire X-Team (those that were taken to the Beyonder homeworld). You lose, Nate.

Oh, and Spidey is NOT a mutant -- he wasn't born with his powers. Not that "normal" humans would know the difference...

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What the--- How'd he do that?!

He did it with his "Super Strength, Web slinging, wall crawling", not to mention his agility and Spider-Sense. He needed to talk to Xavier, and they wouldn't let him. You don't mess with Spidey, dude.

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I should have read your movie reviews on the subject first.

Anyway I like Xmen better.

Personally, I don't see what the movies have to do with it (unless you mean my obvious Spidey preference). I didn't write Secret Wars, I only read it.

Still, unlike your other opponent in this debate, I don't *dis*like the X-folks (which you know since you read my movie reviews)... I just happen to think Spider-Man is the overall better hero.

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Not to mention there are MANY x-men, so clearly they would have an unfair advantage, just for the sheer number of them.

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You're kidding right?
I think it's safe to say superman SUCKS!
He's just too perfect. His only weakness is a freakin' rock. What the hell? I don't understand how anyone could like this guy.

Then, there's batman. He's a superhero who isn't super, at all. He only beats up people with technology.
"Oh, look, an electric boomerang shaped like a bat! How clever!"
And his sidekick is, respectively, A TWELVE YEAR OLD MALE CIRCUS PERFORMER IN TIGHTS! Auuugh!

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You're kidding right?
I think it's safe to say superman SUCKS!
He's just too perfect. His only weakness is a freakin' rock. What the hell? I don't understand how anyone could like this guy.

Then, there's batman. He's a superhero who isn't super, at all. He only beats up people with technology.
"Oh, look, an electric boomerang shaped like a bat! How clever!"
And his sidekick is, respectively, A TWELVE YEAR OLD MALE CIRCUS PERFORMER IN TIGHTS! Auuugh!

*ahem*

Shall we talk Dodgy Superheros with even Dodgier Sidekicks?

*cough*cough*The Tick*cough*cough*

Funniest Superhero EVER , yet equally , the most useless.

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Earthworm Jim.

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**ahem**

Superman has other weaknesses, just his most widely known happens to be the rock. (He is vulnerable, for example, to magic.)

As for the X-Men, one reason I never followed their comics on a regular basis, is for the reason Josh stated: There's just too blasted many of them. I picked up a friend's book once and got about two panels in before I had to ask her, "What the heck is he talking about here?" She then went into a thirty-minute explanation of this character's history with another character (which confused me, since she spoke in terms of OTHER events I had no knowledge of) and the current situation in relation. Two more panels, and I nearly asked the question again -- only I figured if I wanted to actually *read* the book that night, I was going to have to do so utterly clueless.

It's okay -- I like the "main" characters (the ones featured on Fox's animated series and in the movie). I don't even mind when they make guest appearances in Spidey (which happens infrequently, sadly), because individual characters are interesting. It's the X-books as a whole that frighten me.

Batman is a neat character for who he is, but sadly he'd stand no chance against the kinds of villains that Spidey , Supes and the X-folks have to fight on a regular basis. Still, he has his own demons to fight, not to mention that sometimes he acts as if he himself belongs in Arkham. He's an interesting character study, and his abilities are indeed formidable -- but he's just not on par with the others.

This is a fun discussion -- and for once, I even know whereof I speak! -- I hope it doesn't degenerate into a " is better and sucks" type argument.

Is the funniest thing EVER , and thus , i can find no reason to criticise him.

Watch out for the cow!

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I suppose the soap opera part of X-men is actualy what I like the best... it makes the world more believable to me. I guess it's the richer background... but I promise to read some spiderman comics before I make any more rash statements about it.

I just saw Spiderman a couple of hours ago, and it indeed rocks. It was, as far as I'm aware, almost completely accurate to the comic/cartoon. Apart from the fact that he shoots webs from his actual body...

*** If you want to see the film and don't know the story, then you wont want to read the ending ***

*** Which I'm about to talk about ****

*** here ***

and doesn't Mary-Jane fall off the bridge into the water and he loses^ her? I may be getting it confused with a different story, I'm not sure how many times she is suspended over water, it was just annoying me.

^[size=1]I say loses, because I'm sure she comes back, but is a clone or something and then the REAL MJ comes back, but she explodes or melts or something.

There's a good chance that I was sitting watching a Spiderman cartoon marathon on TV with a huge bag of weed and limited munchies and just hallucinated all the other stuff.[/size]

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*sigh*

I had hoped they had at least stuck to a decent story , especially considering that it was Gwen Stacy , not Mary Jane , that fell off the bridge and died and then came back as a clone.

(has far too many Spidey comics in his collection).

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And, in the classic Spidey-must-have-tragedy-and-feel-guilty-about-it way, it was Spider-Man's own reaction to Gwen being tossed that caused her death. He knew he'd never actually reach her in time, so he snagged her with a web-line, and inertia snapped her neck. Owch.

There's a Trade Paperback of that story available, titled (aptly enough) "The Death of Gwen Stacy".

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And when the REAL Gwen Stacy came back, did she melt or explode?

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By my understanding , it wasnt the Inertia that killed Gwen Stacy , but the shock caused by the fall. Spidey timed his swing to avoid any physical damage , but she was already dead before he collected her.

I guess if you had been thrown 300 ft off a bridge , youd probably be in shock as well before you hit the water.

And when the CLONED Gwen Stacy came back , she melted , like all the other clones , including
"The Scarlet Spider" .

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That's odd.... About the time I had to go on "hiatus", it was being revealed that the "clone" was actually the "real deal"... what happened? Grrr... Not that I'm complaining, mind you -- much as I almost liked Ben Reilly, he could never truly replace Peter Parker. Still, I always wondered how they explained that reversal.

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