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DexX
February 24, 2002 8:15 AM

In my case "beyond the grave" refers to disconnection from the internet... e-death, if you will...

For those few of you who give a shit, there's a bit of a story to tell, mainly to explain why I am still not going to be around for a little while, and to explain why I need some help from the resident tech gods.

We got cable internet. *cheer*

We can't get the connection sharing to work. *wailing and gnashing of teeth*

I thought it would only be a matter of days before we got a Linux router up and running. We were sadly mistaken... after a week of wrestling with Debian Linux, OgO and I finally got it working... so of course the motherboard died. Quentin went and bought another Pentium motherboard from a swap meet... and it died... It is terribly ironic - I was literally ten minutes away from getting the Linux box working as a router. I got the memory failure messages (actually the motherboard dying, as we found after hours of fucking around) while booting up to make sure all of the router settings were correct, before attaching it to our existing LAN and telling all our other PCs to use it as their internet host. *sob*

Anyway, our bad luck with the Linux box has led me back to *gag* Windows 98se internet connection sharing. Simply put, it doesn't fucking work. I have dug up every online troubleshooter between here and Rekjavic, and all of them basically say, "...and now, it should be working!" *choke*

Okay, here's what I have done... we have a three PC LAN using nice shint new ethernet cards and 10/100 base T cabling/hub. The Linux box is safely quarantined away from the other kids, so don't worry about that. The would-be host PC is attached to the cable modem via its USB port, and it accesses the internet just fine (I am using it now). ICS is set up on the host, and after failing to connect with dynamic IPs, I have set the client IP addresses as suggested by a guy over at Annoyances - as the host (192.168.0.1) but incremented by one for each PC (...0.2 and ...0.3). They can all see each other just fine - files fly around the LAN happily. I get no response from any internet programs on the two clients, however. No DNS, no this, no that... Well, no DNS is the main complaint.

Help me SC.com tech people, you're my only hope.

Seriously fed up over here, and seriously thinking about buying a little entry-level router. Thanks in advance.

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DexX
February 24, 2002 8:21 AM

...oh, about the whole not-being-here thing...

Basically, I didn't want to say I was back when I really wasn't. I have been lurking for a little while, and posted semi-regularly as DrPedantic for a few days. I've been pretty depressed, though. Just being in our new home's computer room made me feel down, knowing that I couldn't access my email, couldn't talk to friends on ICQ, etc etc etc etc...

*sigh*

The whole thing with moving house, being exhausted for a week afterward, being cut off from my online friends, being utterly broke, not to mentoin spending a week without Bec while she was working interstate... it all got me down. I've been pretty miserable for the past few weeks. Once I can get back into flushing my life down the big internet toilet, I will feel more like my old self again.

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fuzzyman
February 24, 2002 8:27 AM

Seriously. Just get one of these and all your problems will go away. It's cheap. It works. It does your DHCP config for your clients. All you have to do is pop in the PPPoE login information, and you're done. You can set it to dial on demand or keep a persistent connection.

Alternately, you could set up a Win9X machine with Wingate (www.deerfield.com) -- it worked better than Internet Connection sharing for me, back when I was sharing a modem line. I could have kept using it for DSL, but the Linksys is no fuss, no muss, and a helluva lot more secure.

I'm in the business of doing this stuff, and I could have set up a Win2K server with ISA server, RRAS, etc... but, dammit, at home, I just want my connection to *work*.

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ladyjdotnet
February 24, 2002 9:16 AM

I've missed you immensely, DexX. I hope that cheers you up a teeny bit.

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DexX
February 24, 2002 9:29 AM

quote:
I've missed you immensely, DexX. I hope that cheers you up a teeny bit.
*snuggle* Thanks gorgeous. :)

quote:
Just get one of these and all your problems will go away.
Yup, that's the way I am currently leaning. We really are quite broke right now, and a bottom-of-the-range router might set us back about $au250 if we shop around and get lucky. After our experience with the (obviously sentient and evil) Linux box, the idea of buying some dedicated routing hardware makes me salivate, but squeezing enough drops of blood out of the budget may prove to be impossible... oh well, we'll see...

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KajunFirefly
February 24, 2002 10:18 AM

I expected to read this thread and reply with a big

"WELCOME BACK DEXX!"

but, that will obviously have to wait until you sort out the shit at home and we can all get drunk in our respective homes.

if it's any consolation (although I don't see how it would be) I'm drunk already!

anyway man, it's good to hear from you, I was all excited when I saw your name in the "last post" list, sad to hear it's bad news, but these things work themselves out eventually..

"you gotta hit the lows before you can get high"

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Brad
February 24, 2002 10:27 AM

What's wrong with the internet connection sharing in Win98SE? I'm using XP's connection sharing and it's fantastic and easy and wonderful in every way. I've never used Win98's.

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gabe_billings
February 24, 2002 10:46 AM

Your absence made a great big DexX sized hole in the fabric of Stripcreator. Unfortunately, I know jack shit about networking and have a resident geek whom I force to do my dirty work. Perhaps I could shove him in a box and mail him to you. Or get him to steal a router from work.

Odd that he's in internet security and is constantly coming home with bits of equipment from work.

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gabe_billings
February 24, 2002 10:46 AM

Your absence made a great big DexX sized hole in the fabric of Stripcreator. Unfortunately, I know jack shit about networking and have a resident geek whom I force to do my dirty work. Perhaps I could shove him in a box and mail him to you. Or get him to steal a router from work.

Odd that he's in internet security and is constantly coming home with bits of equipment from work.

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KajunFirefly
February 24, 2002 11:01 AM

There's a glitch in the Matrix, it happens when they change something....

DEAR GOD, I'M A WOMAN!!!

now masturbating in front of a mirror doesn't seem so bad.

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wirthling
February 24, 2002 11:02 AM

Gabe is apparently filling that DexX-sized hole with double posts.

I bought a SMC 7000ABR router (US$75 including shipping) and just recently set it up. It took less than a half hour and seems to work fine.

Now, if I can just figure out how to get my ethernet card recognized on my desktop PC. The last time we re-installed Win 98, we couldn't locate our Win 98 upgrade CD so we used someone else's OEM Win 98 CD. The owner of that CD has since moved to the west coast. At some point, the drivers got f'd up, and now it won't let us use the upgrade CD to set up the ethernet card. (Apparently the OEM CD was Win 98 version 2 and our upgrade CD is version 1, and they use different install procedures.)

Welcome back, DexX, and good luck. I know nothing about Linux or Windows connection-sharing...

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gabe_billings
February 24, 2002 12:38 PM

Perhaps you could use a kangaroo as a router. Just plunk it down in the corner and jam some ethernet cables up it's ass. That would probably work as well as anything.

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JrnymnNate
February 24, 2002 12:55 PM

Since DexX left the site has seemed to be going to pieces and getting boring- incidents like the weekend shutdown fiasco, the absence of artistic talent(other than the photoshoping kings) and everything else that DexX juiced the site up with... DragonXero's absence and skagg, ladyj and others distance... basically the biggest thing since pita has been "buhzilla". Welcome back DexX!

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NeoVid
February 24, 2002 1:41 PM

Yeah! He's sort of back! *poing*

58525

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pita
February 24, 2002 2:00 PM

quote:
I've missed you immensely, DexX. I hope that cheers you up a teeny bit.

DITTO !!!

DexX is back !!! YAY !!!

*dances about with wild abandonment*

P.S. Nate, I'm NOT "buhzilla". How did you acquire such an imagination ?

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wirthling
February 24, 2002 2:06 PM

quote:
P.S. Nate, I'm NOT "buhzilla". How did you acquire such an imagination ?

That's what I read at first, too, but then I realized he meant 'buhzilla has been basically the biggest thing since pita.'

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Brad
February 24, 2002 4:13 PM

quote:
Since DexX left the site has seemed to be going to pieces and getting boring- incidents like the weekend shutdown fiasco,
Judging by all the excited e-mail I got, that shutdown fiasco was far from boring.

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JrnymnNate
February 24, 2002 4:47 PM

That falls under going to pieces.

Just teasing.

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kaufman
February 24, 2002 7:21 PM

What they said. It ain't been the same place without you.

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Spankling
February 24, 2002 8:45 PM

The prodigal returns! Someone go slaughter wirthling!

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DexX
February 24, 2002 9:29 PM

Slaughter the fatted geek!

*looks around*

Looks like we have quite a variety to choose from...

*looks in mirror*

Oh, look, there's another one!

I have decided - we're buying a router. Now all that remains is to shop around and see if we can get one for less than an arm and a leg. Buying electronics over here is bad for two related reasons - we don't make any of our own, and have to import it all, and our dollar is very weak at the moment ($au1.00 = approximately = $us small pinch of shit). Look at the price in US bucks, then double it and add a big margin for importation costs, and that's what we pay.

Anyway, enough whining. It's good to be back. :)

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pita
February 24, 2002 9:57 PM

quote:
quote:
P.S. Nate, I'm NOT "buhzilla". How did you acquire such an imagination ?

That's what I read at first, too, but then I realized he meant 'buhzilla has been basically the biggest thing since pita.'

Duh, boy do I feel silly. I see that now... thanks, sweetie.

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fuzzyman
February 25, 2002 2:51 AM

quote:
Buying electronics over here is bad for two related reasons - we don't make any of our own, and have to import it all, and our dollar is very weak at the moment ($au1.00 = approximately = $us small pinch of shit). Look at the price in US bucks, then double it and add a big margin for importation costs, and that's what we pay.
You could send us a Holden HSV Senator or Club Sport in trade for the router, and it might come out even...

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boorite
February 25, 2002 8:20 AM

Here's hoping you'll get your net legs back soon, DexX. I'd help you, but I'm the wrong kind of tech geek-- more scripting and internet stuff than networking. If it were me, I'd just get a modem. One of those modems with a cradle for the phone handset.

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