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by bakawaii
5-12-05
Well! Now I think we're caught up.
Except Dave screwed up and set his VCR to tape NBC instead of ABC, so he missed both Lost and Smallville.
Oh, poor bakwaii-senpaii! This is surely a great tragedy, for one who is almost solely concerned with entertainment, to the near exclusion of all else, including reality.
However, it's those words- "almost" and "near"- which will forever deprive him of that elusive "otaku" status he so desperately desires.
So sad. Just far enough removed from reality so as to have no proper place in society, but not far enough removed to entirely cease caring. Neither one thing nor the other.
Must be kinda how Spock felt, growing up on Vulcan, with all the pure Vulcan kids taunting him and making fun of his mom, "Amanda Earthwoman," all the time.

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
Hai, but he grew up and made something of himself. One of the greatest officers in the history of Starfleet. And perhaps he shall be instrumental in reunification between Vulcans and Romulans.
Yeah, that'd be cool, though I've always thought it'd be awkward, too. Since Vulcan remains part of the UFP, and peace between them and the Romulan Star Empire is a whole other matter.
This is true, Benny-san. But I suppose that in the fullness of time, all shall work out for the best, one way or another.
Meanwhile, our boy Dave has grown up to... um...
...
...So, how 'bout tonight's O.C., huh? George Lucas saved Seth and Summer's relationship! And what happened to Caleb, man was that shocking!

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
http://www.giantmag.com/
Well, surely now we are caught up. So... what do we do with the rest of our time?
Hmmm... time now for another product placement! The lastest issue of Giant is out. Katie Holmes is on the cover. Damn she's fine. Can't wait to see Batman Begins...
Hey, does that count as two product placements? One for the magazine, and one for the movie?
Could be. Not that it matters, it ain't like we're gettin' paid for 'em. I wish.
Hai, it certainly would be nice to get paid for this gig. It's not like there are any perks...
But, at least it's fun being on TV. Plus we get the pleasure of each other's company. And if Dave ever gets over his cold and comes back... at least it's fun being on TV.

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
You're funny, Benny-san! Say some more funny things, so as to keep the show going and the ratings up.
Dave'd like that, too. Problem is, I never plan to say anything funny. Sometimes it happens by accident. Which is cool. But most of the time it just doesn't happen.
Perhaps we should begin working from scripts...
What, Dave write? As if.
Well, he is a writer, after all...
Dave's a lot of things. Doesn't make him active in any of them. Like he's heterosexual, but that doesn't mean he has sex with women. He's a Trekker, but he doesn't go to conventions. He... um...

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
Well? We're waiting for more examples.
...Y'know what, actually? I was wrong. Dave isn't a lot of things. He's really just a few things. And active in still fewer.
But he does, on occasion, get around to writing.
Well, yeah, but I mean... he works, he produces this show, he reads, he surfs the net, he watches TV and DVDs, he sleeps... to write all the time, he'd have to cut one of those activities.
And it would have to be the lowest priority for him that got cut. I suppose we all know what that would be...
Yeah, I mean c'mon... how good would his writing be, anyway, if he missed all that sleep?

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
Well, thankfully, Benny-san, we are almost out of time. We could maybe fit one more topic in, if we can think of anything.
Let's see... just a week till Revenge of the Sith. Sure are alot of Star Wars tie-ins and ads and stuff lately. Pepsi, Burger King, M+Ms, and on and on and on....
Hai. I am ever so much looking forward to seeing the movie! I don't care what anyone says, I believe it will rock!
Best case scenario, yeah. Worst case, at least the saga will finally have the closure we've all been waiting for since... well, before we were born!
Still, cool or not, wouldn't it be something if there were some totally unexpected twist, like Anakin isn't really Luke and Leia's father, or something?
Something? Yeah. I think it'd be George Lucas signing his own death warrant. And the looming hope of Episode III has been the only thing keeping some fans from killing him after I and II...

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
Hai, he does not want to piss them off, with nothing left to forestall their ire. Of course, you and I still consider him a god... so he's nothing to fear from us...
You know, the Klingons killed all their gods long ago.
Benny-san, don't go mixing Star Wars and Star Trek...
It's a big multiverse. Room for all sci-fi series, and fans. Can't we all just get along?
Perhaps an enormous senate comprised of fans of every sci-fi show, movie, book, etc....
Too ineffectual. All that bickering! We'd be better off giving local sci-fi governors direct control of their respective populi...

 

by bakawaii
5-12-05
Now you're starting to scare me, Benny-san. I fear you've gone over to the Dark Side. Surely such a system would lead to a totalitarian regime, ultimately causing more problems than it solved.
Relax, within 18 years there'd be a rebellion to restore the old order.
You mean the old chaos?
Hey, sci-fi fans are supposed to be enlightened. I'm sure they'll find a way to get along. In time.
Benny-san, that may be the funniest thing you've ever said.
Hey, I'm a crazy idealist. Anyway, looks like it's time to say oyasumi, Gracie. Gracie the humpback whale, that is! Pa-dum-pum!

 

by bakawaii
5-19-05
Hi! We're all drunk! Dave brought some wine. He's not over his cold entirely but he's back. Did I mention he brought some wine?
Hai, you did, Benny-san! It is very cheap and sucky wine!
Dat it is, Momoiro... but damned if we ain't all d-drunk! Been meaning for some time to say watched series finale of Enterprise...
How was it?
Sucked. Crap about Riker and Troi on a holodeck... been me, I woulda writ the finale about wrapping up the temporal cold war or sumpin, but no....
Ah well, at least you can finally stop watching and feeling guilty about watching. It's over.

 

by bakawaii
5-19-05
I also wanted to say Andromeda is ending. Last week was next to last ep, but I missed it. I should catch it this weekend maybe, which means... an extra week before it's over.
So, two post-Roddenberry shows ending about the same time.
Yep yep. What else? Revenge of the Sith is out. We wanted to see the midnight show, but... we didn't. No telling when we'll get to see the movie.
But it shouldn't be too long. Meanwhile, in addition to wine, bakwaii-senpai brought the bonus disc from the box set that came out last year. We watched all that.
Twas fun, to be sure! Then we watched the season finale of Smallville, despite missing last week's ep. It was cool, though frustrating.
"To be continued" is always frustrating. Cliffhangers are such a mixed blessing!

 

by bakawaii
5-19-05
I'm just hoping I don't throw up till after this show! Also the Batman Begins preview looks like the coolest thing in the history of ever!
Well, that's what bakawaii-senpai said. And he's not exactly wrong.
What else? Quick, the drunk is wearing off, and Dave poured the rest of the alcohol down the sink because he felt sick!
Um... did you say yet that Samurai Champloo rocks?
I forget. But it totally does! Also Fuu is sooo cute! Gosh but I'm sure there were several things we meant to say but our show keeps getting delayed, and now I forgot...
Anything about Star Wars maybe? Oh yeah... you were saying... everyone hates Anakin... and the redemption scene in episode VI...

 

by bakawaii
5-19-05
Oh yeah. It's like... he has this great moment with Luke, then we'll be all "Sorry, we liked you better evil."
Hai. Although, another point is that Lucas has become like Vader, and episode III should be his repdemption.
One can but hope. Well, that Hercules movie was sort of alright. And it's always nice to see Leelee Sobieski. What else?
I don't think of anything else. Dammit, Ben... I don't feel good anymore! Let's hurry and end the show!
Most definitely. I'm sure we're forgetting things and right now I don't give the slightest hint of a crap.
I think we wanted to say something about bakawaii-senpai's comix... I've seen his first two series, but he has a third and I don't know what it is...

 

by bakawaii
5-19-05
Yeah, me too. And I can't think of anything more. Seriously, I gotta go now. Being drunk sucks! Stupid Dave...
Being drunk is great! It's the aftermath that sucks. But anyway... I must go... sorry this is the worst ep ever! Sayonara...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Konnichiwa! Joining us today is our producer, bakawaii-senpai! The three of us just went and saw Revenge of the Sith together!
Yep, and we're gonna have a talk about that. But first, out of the way the preliminaries must we get.
That's right, Dave. All the crap we've been accumulating to discuss since our last episode. Let's see, I believe it was last Thursday, so...
I suppose we would have watched the O.C. that night. Unfortunately, I now don't remember much about it.
Me neither. I probably had stuff to say about it at the time... I should really take notes when I watch TV and stuff.
Right on. We're professional enjoyers of entertainment. It is our duty to drain all fun out of that which we enjoy by critical thinking, thus passing on the fun we could have had to our viewers

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
You are both right. We owe it to our viewers to be more professional; on the other hand, we don't want to risk losing the love we have for entertainment, or what's the point of doing this show at all?
Ah well. Conundrums. If I were a robot, my head would explode. But since I'm human, I can simply ignore these things, to save my sanity. ...Such as it is.
Right. So, what next? Um... Friday was... oh shit, we forgot to watch Foster's!
Oh my, you are right, Benny-san! How could this have happened? Oh well, I suppose we shall just catch a rerun someday.
Damn. Well, okay. Also there was the Muppets' Wizard of Oz, which I found fairly amusing. My favorite joke was when Scarecrow asked the Wizard if he was any relation to Frank Oz.
And of course, that reminds us of Star Wars... so damn, I wanna start disucssin' that, but these damned preliminaries haven't yet been fully dealth with!

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Also on Friday was a new episode of Avatar. It was amusing, as usual. And always nice to hear familiar voices such as Rene Auberjonois and Scott Menville.
Yeah. Of course, if Rene's still up for cartoon voice work, I wish he'd still be playing Master Fung on Xiaolin Showdown. Also, I have a big problem with Aang lying to the two tribes.
Right on, that could come back to bite him in the ass later. Surely they can find out he lied, and then never trust him again. Oh yeah, and then there's that the Avatar should probably be honest...
Hai. But time will tell. Perhaps nothing shall come of it. Well then, I think that brings us to Saturday.
Yeah, two eps of Xiaolin Showdown. Omi has finally joined Chase Young. At least he hasn't yet turned evil, like Anakin...
Dude, you're killin' me here! Can you at least try to hold off on Star Wars references till we're ready to get to that?

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hai, bakawaii-senpai, please do. Anyway, next came Pokemon. Personally, I'm growing wearing of this show, and don't pay it much attention anymore.
Same here. I don't want to stop watching entirely, but I rarely care much about what's going on. Nor do I well remember it. There was an interesting episode recently involving time travel...
Yeah, but that was a few weeks ago. Anyway, after Pokemon is The Batman, which normally we don't care much about since it's such a disappointing series...
However, this week was the first appearance of the Riddler, and not as bad as some episodes- though still not as good as a Batman cartoon should be.
True. But the main reason to watch was that this past week Frank Gorshin died, who of course played the Riddler in the 60's Batman series. He was also supposed to have a different role in this series.
Right, but I don't think that has happened yet, and now I wonder if it will. ...Say, speaking of Gorshin, I think I remember what I wanted to say in our last episode about your other comics...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hush, Benny-san! I'm sure bakawaii-senpai doesn't want to be reminded of that. Anyway, the comic in question had nothing to do with Gorshin, so... just drop it.
Thank you kindly, Momoiro-san. Anyway, what else? Two episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh! Things certainly are coming to a head there. Very exciting.
Yeah. Our heroes' souls have been restored, including Yugi's! I was all "Hisashiburi, buddy! Nice to have you back in your own body, again!"
Hai. It was very lonely for the Pharoah, all this time. But now, they still have to face the great Leviathan, which seems nearly invincible!
Ah well, I'm sure they'll prevail. They always do, somehow. Anyway, I really liked the line about him looking shorter...
Right on. Instances of his friends acknowledging the difference between Yugi and Yami are rare and wondrous things, which deserve to be cherished.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Oh, I have just remembered... Xiaolin Showdown was about the Ying yo-yo and the Ying-Yang world. It would have been nice if they'd gotten it right and said "Yin," not "Ying."
Oh yeah, that bugged me, too. Also, it was interesting that once again, the season ended with Wuya being brought back to life.
Yeah, but this time that was rather incidental, and besides, she hasn't got her powers. I'm not sure how Chase managed that, but it's cool to see that villains have the sense not to trust each other.
Anyway! There was also W.I.T.C.H. to watch. Um... can't really remember anything much about that.
Same here. But as always, it is terribly important to at least mention in passing every single thing we watched, even if we have nothing to say about it.
Ah yes, the prime directive of our show. Our strict adherence to this rule is no doubt how we manage to maintain a consistent level of quality. That, or cuz that level is 0. Not exactly a challenge.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Untrue, Benny-san! Every once in a great while, the quality of our show rises very slightly above zero! I feel that is true of today's episode....
Momoiro's right, Benny. And I'd say it's largely due to your sarcastic humor. Truly, sarcasm and self-deprecation are the greatest forms of art and comedy.
Yo, no argument here, chief. Anyway, moving on... The final two episodes of Andromeda, taped off two different channels. So no waiting an extra week!
As usual, not everything was resolved, nor made complete sense. But at least the Abyss has at last been destroyed.
Yeah, and they didn't have to destroy all three galaxies to do it, like the council of suns wanted to. Speaking of, did anybuddy else think Maura looked like Trance, but human?
I wondered if that was Laura Bertram, but I guess not. Oh well. They're both hot. Which makes sense, since they're both suns.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Well, it was also nice that they all got back to the Commonwealth. Although I should think they'll still have to fight Nietzscheans and Magog.
Right. I wouldn't be surprised if we're expected to assume they're no threat without the Abyss backing them up, but that'd just be stupid.
Though it's also possible they won't have to fight the Nietzscheans, if they accept Beka as their Matriarch. But I don't think that was clearly enough established.
Hai, I should very much like to see a confrontation between Beka and Tyr. He claims to be the reincarnation of Drago Museveni, but we all know that actually his son, Tamerlane is.
It definitely doesn't make sense that we didn't see Tyr at all. Though at least Harper mentioned him, in jest. But I always found Tyr far more interesting than Rhade.
Me too. Also, I thought it sucked that Rev Bem wasn't even mentioned. Well, any number of things left me unsatisfied. But on the whole, it was a fair ending.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Certainly I would also have wished to see Rev Bem again. Still, something far more important has happened. Aside from the Abyss being destroyed, Tarn Vedra has rejoined the Known Worlds!
True, its disappearance after the Fall was one of the series' greatest mysteries since the beginning of the series. And while the whole final season was set there, it was mostly disappointing...
Hopefully things'll get more interesting now. It's s'posed to become a paradise again. And it'll probably join the new Commonwealth. Though despite Dylan and company saving everyone's asses...
...Repeatedly... Most folks there seem to bear him much ill will.
In addition, of course, to hating technology. But I'm sure they'll all come around. An abundance of clean water and a lack of acid rain should improve their dispositions.
By the way, guys, are we forgetting something else? Earth was destroyed! Which reminds me, we still haven't seen the Hitchhiker movie...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
*sigh* Oh well. The place was in pretty bad shape, anyway. Besides, there are plenty of other worlds in the Three Galaxies. As for Hitchhiker, I also remain anxious to see it...
Me too. But that's a topic for another time. What else? Dylan is the last remaining Paradine. And I don't suppose there are any more Vedrans, either, just humans and such living on Tarn Vedra.
Ah well. As with worlds... there are plenty of other species in the Three Galaxies. No matter that Vedrans founded the original Commonwealth, in the first place....
Well, if we've just about bled this subject dry, what else was on Saturday? Hmmm, it was funny seeing Shobu and Rekuta fighting on Duel Masters. And all that stuff about shrimp!
Right. I probably had stuff to say about the episode, but I forget.
Say, isn't it kind of like cannibalism for Rekuta to be eating shrimp?

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Iie, Benny-san, it is not! That is not even funny! Poor Rekuta-san gets no respect...
Well, he is kind of there for comic relief. Relief from what I can't imagine, since the whole show is ludicrously funny...
Sorry, stupid joke. Anyway, after that is Rave Master. Shame we won't see Remi again, apparently. She was hot. But at least we've still got Elie, and she's the show's main hottie.
Anyway, it was a fun story, even Griff was fun, mostly because of how the others treated him. But the episode was mostly filler. I look forward to the next phase of the story.
Yep. Couple more rave stones to find, presumably no more Shadow Guard to worry about... but probably there will be more fights. And then all the answers shall be given...
Yeah yeah. More importantly, there was a new episode of Justice League, Task Force X. Cool to see Clock King again, it's been a long time... though he didn't have much of a role.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Indeed it was good to see him. And the whole Cadmus plotline continues to advance. More and more interesting...
Yep. It reminded me I want to write a story about Cadmus trying to recruit my fanfic character, Kidder. After the ep I had a conversation between him and Waller in my head.
Well get on it, dude! I look forward to reading that. Meanwhile, I think Temple was the only character I knew. Oh, and Captain Boomerang. But I like this Plastique. Shame they had to leave her behind.
I too look forward to your Kidder story, bakawaii-senpai. As well as more eps of Justice League like this. Terribly interesting storyline.
Well gosh, I thank you both for your encouragement. Anyway, then was Zatch Bell. Um... funny as usual, but no particular comment.
Right. And Samurai Champloo continues to be hella cool. Yet I can think of no comment! Odd, that.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
And then, the first Inuyasha movie, Affections Touching Across Time! That was certainly fun, in spite of a few minor complaints...
Yeah, it seemed a bit too fast, especially Kagome's opening exposition. In fact there was entirely too much exposition in the movie, for the sake of those unfamiliar with the series.
Right on, it's like, why would anyone unfamiliar with the show even watch the movie? Also they all looked a bit different, though I wonder if that was because of compression from widescreen...
Perhaps one day we shall get the DVD, and compare it to what aired on Adult Swim.
Definitely, someday. Meanwhile, I thought the plot was too much like the story that immediately precedes the movie, where Inuyasha learns the backlash wave technique to defeat Ryuukotsusei.
That, perhaps crossed with the later Panther demon story. Sort of. Or something. Still, it was on the whole an enjoyable movie, and it had its moments...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Well... then, a night's sleep, not necessarily good, and more TV on Sunday! I suppose you both watched Mew Mew Power. How was it?
Well, it was a rerun of the first episode. But it was better this time, since it was set after the previous episode, so I actually understood everything that was going on.
Right on. But now I'm hoping it'll be in reruns for awhile, so we don't have to bother watching it. For awhile. Well then, One Piece. Shame to have missed it last week, but it was cool this week...
Hai, I enjoyed learning some of Nami's backstory. I am now quite confident that she is not evil, and hopefully might rejoin Luffy's crew after the Arlong story arc.
One can but hope. Aannd... hmmm, taped Desperate Housewives, but I haven't watched it yet. But I watched Robot Chicken and Tom Goes to the Mayor...
Yeah yeah yeah. Chicken sucked as usual, and Tom was whatever the hell Tom usually is. Thus ends Sunday. So I think we all know what our next topic is...!

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Indeed we do, Benny-san!
That's right, Momoiro! Trailers!
Oh for the love of--!
I know we were all hoping for a Serenity trailer, but we didn't get one, alas. First up was War of the Worlds...
I'm afraid I didn't get much out of the trailer. Although I've always been a fan of Dakota Fanning, since Taken. And I always thought she'd grow up to be quite beautfiul...
She's always been a lovely child, though in some pictures from this movie I thought she was beginning to look slightly awkward. However, in the trailer she still looks like a real cute kid.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Whatever. I have looked forward to the movie, and in spite of the underwhelming trailer, I continue to look forward to it. Next was the trailer for Stealth.
Right. I suppose it could be okay. But I'm not really interested. Maybe I'll catch it on video or something, someday. However, I look foward to Seth Cohen's take on the movie.
*sigh* Right, cuz he used the word "stealth" a few times this season on the O.C. That means he's sure to have something to say about it in the Fall.
Hai, and speaking of Seth, I noticed the name Adam Brody in the credits at the end of the next trailer, for Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
Yep. That looks like it could be a fun movie. Not top of my list by any means, but fun.
And of course, it's always nice to see Angelina Jolie, one of the hottest of all hotties. But about Brody, one would think it'd make more sense for him to be in the next trailer's movie...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hai... Fantastic Four! Seth Cohen being such the comic book geek, moreso even than the three of us, it would've been cooler for him to be in that instead of Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
And by the way, folks, we happen to be three geeks who truly enjoy our comic books... So, naturally, we're all way looking forward to this movie.
And that, my friends, was the last of the trailers. So... please tell me it's time...
Time? Oh yes, speaking of time... bakawaii-senpai, did you have something to say?
Indeed, Momoiro-san. I'm afraid we've run out of time for today's episode. Ha ha, just kidding, Benny! Would you care to kick off our Star Wars discussion?
Star Wars, eh? ...Um, I've got nothing. Sorry. ...Just kidding! To begin with, the opening scroll was a little weak. But at least it made me proud to have seen Clone Wars.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
War! What an insipid way to start a scroll. But you're right, the mention of Grievous kidnapping Palpatine was surely a treat for any of us fans of the cartoon, who actually saw the abduction.
Hells yeah! I was so glad to have seen Clone Wars! Well, then there was the space battle. I suppose it looked cool enough. But I was as eager as Obi-Wan to move past it.
True dat! And I loved how he jumped out of his fighter, light saber swinging! He was back in his element. It's always cool to see Jedi going all Samurai Jack on a bunch of droids.
Ah, hai, we do so love the circular nature of Star Wars and Samurai Jack. Without real samurai, there probably would have been no Star Wars in the first place...
And then, without Star Wars, there might never have been a Samurai Jack... And without Jack, Genndy Tartakovsky probably never could have made Clone Wars...
Of course, he also couldn't have made it without the Star Wars prequels, so even if you don't like episodes 1 and 2, you gotta give them props for making Clone Wars possible...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Unless, of course, you don't like Clone Wars, either. But then, we probably wouldn't even bother talking to anyone who didn't think Clone Wars rocked. And Samurai Jack, of course.
Meanwhile, Benny-san, that brings us back to Episode III. Though I certainly hope to see Genndy make another animated series to fill the space between III and IV...
I have a vague understanding that there's to be a new animated series as well as a new live-action series. Don't know much about either, I'm afraid, but I look forward to them...
Right, so anyway... Grievous seemed a bit different from in the cartoon. Not nearly as kick-ass. I mean, he took out a ton of Jedi, then in the movie he gets taken down by just one?
Well, it was Obi-Wan. But still, I know what you mean. Of course, as great as the cartoon was, and as much as we enjoy its ties to the movie...
Yeah, I know. We should probably try to concentrate on the movie, for now... I wish his cough would have been explained. I don't recall that in the cartoon. I know he was part alien, not just droid...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
I suppose he could have gotten sick. Anyone can get sick. Or maybe alot was taken out of him in all his battles against all those Jedi... in the cartoon...
Maybe. Anyway, hmmm. Trying to remember everything that happened in the movie, in order. Bit of a challenge... um...
...There was a fight on the ship, and it was cool to see the space battle going on through the window, at the same time... I think it was during Anakin's fight against Dooku...
You know a light saber duel is really good if you're thinking about how cool it is to see a space battle going on in the background.
Ah, there's that sarcastic wit bakawaii-senpai was commenting upon earlier.
Anyway, we can't talk about everything in the movie. Just let's make a few points, if we can. I thought the early part of the movie played like a comedy...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hai. I appreciated some of the humor, however, I also thought it overpowered the story, for a time. That I did not so much care for.
Yes, well, it's not really the humor's fault. It's that the story was a bit too weak to really support it. However, eventually the story began to improve...
Yeah... the point at which I thought the movie really started to kick ass- and mind you, it had been steadily improving for a while prior to this-
...was the scene where Anakin first realized Palpatine was Sidious. That scene rocked, and after it, the movie really took off.
Hai, I could not agree more, Benny-san. In fact, I quite enjoyed all the scenes between Anakin and Palpatine. Of course, Lucas was working extra hard to explain Anakin's change...
Yeah, after the movie, I read the review in EW, and it touched on the various motivations for his turn to the Dark Side, and said none of them were quite enough. I tend to agree...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hai... still, I am willing to accept it. Some things were more believable than others. Of course, the most important thing is his love for Padmé...
And while their relationship isn't written very convincingly, we all know what love feels like. Sometimes we must simply accept it when we are told that it exists between two people...
And try to ignore the writing, and rather imagine how we'd act in such situations, involving the one we love.
True that, Momoiro. However, a Jedi should see the larger picture. In my opinion, no matter how much you love an individual...
...you should always remember that the good of the many outweighs the good of the one. Especially if you're directly responsible for the good of the many, as is a Jedi.
Now don't go mixing Star Wars with Star Trek, Dave...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
But bakwaii-senpai is correct, Benny-san. However, I think that Anakin's mind was too clouded by other matters to see the big picture. Perhaps it is wise for the Jedi to be forbidden to marry...
I suppose. But I always thought that was stupid, and something I think the Jedi would be better off without. Maybe if they hadn't had to keep it a secret, things would have turned out differently.
Yeah, and I really didn't care for Yoda's advice to Anakin about letting go of the things you care about...
I mean, how the hell are you supposed to care about protecting what's good in life for everyone, if you're not allowed to care about anything in the first place?
I agree with you there, Benny-san. Although they do seem to be allowed friendships. Which in a way rather defeats the purpose of forbidding romantic love. One could be led astray by any kind of love..
Ah well, so things in the series don't always make perfect sense. It is just a bunch of movies, after all. Of course, the Force is a religion, and on Earth some religions also forbid marriage...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hai, and there are any number of religious points in the movies... such as separation of Church and State. The Jedi and the Senate might work together, but neither should control the other.
Very true. And there's another cause of Anakin's confusion. Palpatine wanted him to believe the Jedi wanted to take over.
One thing that bothered me, though, was how upset he was that the Council wanted him to spy on Palpatine- after Palpatine first wanted him to spy on the Council. But the movie never broached that.
That bugged me too, dude. But it occurs to me, we seem to be talking too much about the things that we didn't like. Maybe we should mention a few things we did like...
I know we all liked when Yoda said the prophecy may have been misread, though I think that wasn't explored enough...
I always thought bringing balance to the Force meant restoring the Sith to power. Prior to Episode I, the Jedi and the Light Side seemed in complete power... Doesn't sound too balanced, to me.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
I am in complete agreement, bakawaii-senpai. Of course, we have no idea what exactly the prophecy said. Was it simply "the chosen one will bring balance to the Force," or was there more to it?
I do wonder. Episode III seemed to me to be the first time all the Jedi were so sure it meant he would destroy the Sith. Anyway, I wish it would have been explored more...
Yeah, but as Momoiro-san said, at least it was cool that Yoda mentioned, even in passing, that the prophecy could've been misread. Does kinda make me wish one of us woulda been on the Council, though.
Hai, there are any number of things that seemed so obvious to us, but which failed to occur to the Jedi, somehow.
For example, once they realized Palpatine was their enemy, shouldn't they have immediately have feared his clone army would turn against them?
That's what I thought. But still, it was a pretty damned powerful, moving scene, watching all those Jedi being suddenly killed, on every battlefront...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Oh, earlier when I said Anakin's mind was clouded... I think I meant to say something else about that. Now what was it? I don't remember exactly, but perhaps...
each aspect of the story served to make the others harder to see clearly. I wish I could remember... Ah well, it probably wasn't important.
Oh yeah, and I was thinking... Yoda's advice here was alot like in Episode V, when he didn't want Luke to go to Bespin...
Woah, dude, I hadn't thought of that! You might be right. Damn, and I always thought that was pretty wise. But in retrospect... maybe it's all part of a cycle of Jedi not caring about others...
But of course, Anakin said Jedi only care about others...
There definitely seem to be a lot of mixed messages and conflicting information in these movies...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
True dat, Dave. Which fact saves me from my thought a moment ago, that Lucas might have actually had a little plot consistency going on between the original trilogy and the prequels.
Oh, perish the thought, Benny-san! Moving on... Yoda didn't spend nearly enough time on Kashyyyk.
I think actually, it's not so much that he didn't spend enough time there, as that we didn't see enough of his time there. He did say he already had good relations with the Wookiees...
which is basically the only reason it made sense for him to have such a fond farewell with Chewie and whats-his-fur, when he left.
Yeah. Of course, that's another thing about these prequels. There's too much of everyone knowing everything, about things they didn't seem to know about in the original trilogy.
So, I really liked at the end when Organa told Antilles to have 3PO's memory wiped. And Artoo doesn't really count, since we never understand what he's saying, anyway...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
However, that leaves other things unexplained. I suppose Chewie never met Yoda in the originals, but it's hard to believe it wouldn't have come up in conversation that they were old friends.
And why did Obi-Wan not seem to know about Leia until Yoda says "No... there is another"?
Ah well, I could probably go on and on in this vein. But on the other hand, there's plenty of stuff fans complained about in Episode I, that never bothered me in the slightest.
Like when Obi-Wan said Anakin was a great pilot when he met him. Hello, fans? He won the pod race and blew up the Trade Federation command ship. Not good enough for you?
But I digress. I also wanted to say that alot of this stuff reminds me of Smallville- y'know, like in the future, how will Lex possibly not know that Clark is Superman?
Also, it was cool to see what appeared to be a Blockade Runner... Apparently the Tantive IV... But... Captain Antilles? If that same guy is still just a captain 18 years hence, that's kinda sad.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
So, the floor is mine again? Well... perhaps he's like Captain Kirk, just such a great captain that it'd be wrong to make him an admiral. Or maybe he's a different Antilles.
There do seem to be plenty of Antilleses in Star Wars. No doubt they're all related to Wedge. And maybe he's too good a fighter pilot to ever be made a captain...
Hmmm, didn't I hear someone called Bail Antilles in an earlier episode? Was that the captain from this movie? I'm not sure. Popular name, we also have Bail Organa... probably both from Alderaan.
Well it would stand to reason. Organa and Antilles seemed to know each other... But that'd be kinda weird, two old friends both named Bail.
Reminds me of Rave Master, with two old friends both named Gale. But I shouldn't stray from the topic like that. Although I think it's you guys's fault...
Whatever, dude. Um... so, where were we? Oh, by the way... am I crazy, or did Anakin never realize Palpatine was in control of the Separatists?

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
I'm not sure, but you may be right, Benny-san. Or perhaps by the time he did realize it, he was too far gone to even care, anymore.
One would think, though, that as soon as he realized Palpatine was Sidious, he would have realized that. But again, his mind was clouded by so many things...
Still, one must admit, it's pretty weird how once all Palpatine's arguments fall apart, Anakin still trusts him. By the time Gunray says he wants peace... Vader's too far to care, but...
It seemed to me that right up to that point, Vader still believed they were Palpatine's enemies, not his pawns. Even when he ordered Vader to order the Trade Federation ships to stand down...
One might suppose it's just because he was in the Separatist HQ, not because he expected them to take orders from a servant of Sidious. Like the message to the Jedi coming from the Jedi temple...
Or else the assumption might be that they'd take orders because he'd defeated the Separtist leaders...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
I understand your confusion, Benny-san. I also thought it seemed the only reason he ordered Vader to destroy them was so there'd be no proof that he'd been controlling them all along.
They couldn't tell anyone if they're dead... Well, I thought probably it was so Vader wouldn't learn the truth. But now it occurs to me it may have been so the Senate wouldn't learn the truth.
Of course, there are other things that bother me here. Like how can it take 18 years to complete the Death Star? I can understand waiting for its completion before disbanding the Senate, but...
I mean, c'mon, the Death Star II seemed to be coming along alot more quickly than the first.
Well, I suppose he may have had to keep the first one secret from the Senate. But once they were disbanded, he could move completely openly.
Besides, there was a rush on the second one, because the Rebel Alliance had finally won at least one major victory.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Well okay, so you both make pretty good points. But still... *yawn* Damn, what time is it? I'm gettin' tired!
Bakawaii-senpai, Benny-san is correct. We have gone well past our time...
We'd gone over time well before we started discussing Star Wars. I don't care. This episode lasts until we're finished!
Right on! I can take it! After all, this is something we've all been waiting for since before we were born!
Hai, I suppose this is true. Very well... so, what were you saying, Benny-san?
When? Oh, um... hmmm. Oh yeah. I liked Padmé's line, "So this is how liberty ends... to thunderous applause." Dude, that rocked!

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
I must admit, Lucas-sama can indeed turn the occasional brilliant phrase.
Hells yeah he can! I also liked Obi-Wan's line about the blaster he'd been forced to use. "So uncivilized."
Kinda reminds me of the pilot of Batman Beyond, when Batman had to threaten to use a gun. Although Obi-Wan was definitely better at taking it in stride... and he actually killed his enemy!
I feel that we continually stray a great deal from the actual plot of the movie, and speak of random vagaries...
Good way of covering the fact that our memories aren't so great for certain details... Also helps us not to give too many spoilers...
Screw spoilers! We've given a few tonight... but if all those preliminary discussions didn't give our viewers ample time to turn off their TVs... that's their own look out.

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Hai. Anyway... *yawn* Oh, um, so there were any number of things in this movie... that gave me hope Anakin would make the right decision... which is ridiculous, because we knew going in he wouldn't.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Frankly, I was surprised when he told Windu about Palpatine... still, it was necessary to move the story to the attempted arrest... which was a big part of why he turned.
Ah, the expediency of plot devices! But still... every time any Jedi said anything nice to Anakin, I had hope, too... Very weird.
I would classify this strange tendency as a "good" aspect of the movie. What else goes under this heading?
I liked how Yoda said he'd have to go into exile. All of the good guys would, though I think it's not so bad for Senator Organa. He's gonna be like King of Alderaan...
I also liked how Obi-Wan picked up Vader's light saber after their final duel. I think we all know what will be done with that, someday...

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
I loved how the music from Episode IV came up when Obi-Wan was delivering Luke to Beru and Owen. In fact I believe I'd go so far as to say anyone who didn't like that is not a Star Wars fan.
I concur.
Damn straight! ...I also liked how Vader's legs were burned off, and he was given new, mechanical ones. That explains why he's taller in the suit.
...Although I must say, he seemed kinda wimpy, even in the suit. But, I guess he'd just nearly died, was probably still in a lot of physical pain, not to mention emotional torment.
Palpatine was so evil, to tell him that he killed Padmé!
Well, I think ironically, maybe she wouldn't have died if he hadn't done that Sith choking thing to her. It's like, "Prophetic dreams brought to you by the Oracle at Delphi."

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Heh, sounds about right, bakawaii-senpai! Although, the medic droid said she had no will to live... but what she said to Obi-Wan later...
Sounded to me at first like she said "Obi-wan... that's quite a name. I know..." For a moment I thought she'd suggest he change his name to Ben.
But of course, as you no doubt subsequently realized upon relfection, she actually said "There's still good in him, I know it."
...Or words to that effect. As I was saying, her last words seemed to show she still had hope, which doesn't sound to me like someone who's lost the will to live.
Well, medic droids don't know everything. I dunno.
And anyway, do you really see a hottie like her having a future with lava-boy's scarred ass? Even if he did turn good again?

 

by bakawaii
5-23-05
Oh Benny-san, you know looks don't matter! True love conquers all! But anyway, I really do wonder why he remained with the Emperor after everything...
It's true Palpatine could no longer dangle hope of saving her, like a carrot... but I mean, where else did he have to go?
Yeah, at that point, the Empire was pretty much the only game in town. And even if Padmé had taken him back, I seriously doubt any surviving Jedi would have.
Made me think of Babylon 5... imagine if Garibaldi looked like Vader while trying to explain how Bester had made him betray Sheridan...
Dude! Try to focus on one sci-fi at a time.
Dude, none of us have been doing a great job of that tonight...

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