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| yeah ok, but kwanzaa pretends to be part of african traditions, but i don't see anybody in africa celebrating it. | |
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| so that's the best you can do? | |
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| you haven't answered the question of authenticity. | |
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| hmm. so i suppose that the european enlightenment ideas had nothing to do with the declaration of independence? | |
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| where are you going with this? | |
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| i'm just wondering if you know any europeans who celebrate the fourth of july. | |
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