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Kaenash
December 28, 2005 10:29 AM

I like the neovid character.

Can we have something like this as neovid3 and neovid4?

it is an imagining of the character in the future, with his hair cut and slight grey on the sides. OldNeovid.

I did not do the original artwork (obviously). Just a little touch up.

I like using the neovid character in my comics, and I would have no problem making variations on a few others if anyone wanted me to.

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attitudechicka
December 28, 2005 10:57 AM

Don't touch my character.

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crabby
December 28, 2005 11:29 AM

quote:
I like the neovid character.
I like using the neovid character in my comics, and I would have no problem making variations on a few others if anyone wanted me to.

I'd rather have more of Injokester's kick ass art work added than see slight changes to existing characters.

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Spankling
December 28, 2005 12:27 PM

quote:
Don't touch my character.
Darn.

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theReverend
December 28, 2005 2:01 PM

She didn't say don't touch yourself while looking at her character, so you're in the clear.

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Spankling
December 28, 2005 2:14 PM

quote:
She didn't say don't touch yourself while looking at her character, so you're in the clear.
Oh... right! carry on.

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mandingo
December 28, 2005 3:45 PM

quote:
Don't touch my character.
too late. i did this for a photoshop contest awhile back.

i call her "10 ITEMS OR LESS, MOTHERFUCKER!!!"

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Kaenash
December 28, 2005 4:11 PM

AttitudeChicka; I will definitely stear clear of any edits to your character. Duly noted.

quote:
I'd rather have more of Injokester's kick ass art work added than see slight changes to existing characters.

I didn't ask what you would rather have, but simply offered to extend the use of our existing characters a bit. I am glad it was not an overall out spouting of hatred towards me like last time. Even Charlie Brown gets to change clothes every now and then.

I use the Neovid and Dexx characters a lot in my comics and I think they have so much comic potential. Dexx reminds me of a guy named "Dirty Jim" that I know and so I use him as that in my comics.

If I could draw worth a crap, I'd love to make some new art and submit it. However, I think if I had the talent to draw, I would end up simply drawing basic variations of characters from "Knights of the Dinner Table" because in truth, that is the stuff I'd love to create.

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crabby
December 28, 2005 5:15 PM

That was my nice way of saying your idea was lame and that there are other people making much better contributions to the site.

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Kaenash
December 28, 2005 6:25 PM

I didn't know you had a nice way of saying anything.

Here is a nice way of asking again.

http://www.stripcreator.com/forums/showthread.php?postnum=206215

(PG warning on this thread)

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crabby
December 28, 2005 6:38 PM

I hoped that if I told you as bluntly as possible than you would take the hint and stop making threads like this.

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BigFrank105
December 28, 2005 6:40 PM

...

I have nothing to say

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choadwarrior
December 28, 2005 6:40 PM

I deleted that post in RMDC. It had no business there...or anywhere here.

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crabby
December 28, 2005 6:45 PM

The nude pregnant Lindsay Lohan photoshop was a tad uncalled for.

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Kaenash
December 28, 2005 7:13 PM

yes, given this site never shows boobs in messages. Absolutely fiendish to post a comic with a boob in it, in the 'look at my comics' forum, in a thread entitled 'partial nudity'. Totally off topic for that.

Especially considering it was a clever way of grabbing the users attention to ask nicely if there could be an alt neovid character, when there are so many alts elsewhere.

Crabby, can you get a life or must you constantly play the crow from Animal Farm? trying to stir the pot?

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crabby
December 28, 2005 7:15 PM

Can you get a life and stop making shitty threads about how you've photoshopped art that isn't yours?

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Kaenash
December 28, 2005 7:22 PM

Crabby, I clearly stated that I did not draw the art and that it was a variation on an existing character.

I've asked you to lighten up. You always get your way because you are insistent on harrasment and you never let up until you do. But there are better ways. Seriously.

You've got everyone convinced I've done something "wrong" by simply contributing an alt version of neovid or making an animated gif, etc. Its really amazing to me that this is how you get your kicks.

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crabby
December 28, 2005 7:26 PM

I think you're insane. So I'm just going to back away slowly now because I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Kaenash
December 28, 2005 8:37 PM

so can I post my comic now?

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crabby
December 28, 2005 8:40 PM

It really wasn't that funny.

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ivytheplant
December 28, 2005 11:54 PM

There was a picture of a nude, pregnant Lindsay Lohan and I missed out? Damn.

Wait...who the fuck is Lindsay Lohan?

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ladyjdotnet
December 29, 2005 3:59 AM

Kaenash, there is *no one* who thinks that your slight variations of existing characters is a good idea, least of all the original artist. He submitted that art to this site strictly for the intended use of puting them in comics as-is.

There are a couple of pieces of submitted art that I drew. Don't touch either of them. No, I won't tell you which ones.

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fuzzyman
December 29, 2005 8:13 AM

I created the Priest character by modifying the Fuzzyman character DexX made for me. Jamalia and Lenny come from similar bouts of Photoshopping (and arm from one character, the eye of another, etc).

The point is that I used DexX's art as a starting point to create something very different and useful for the site. The Priest offers lots of comic possibilities, and at the time I created Jamalia and Lenny there were few other black characters on the site.

I offered them up with the caveat that DexX had veto ability if he didn't like what I did. Thankfully he felt that I changed them enough to make them worthwhile.

What is the point of a Neovid with short hair? My constructive criticism is this: Figure out if there is a character that would be useful and unique, and if you modify an existing character to create it, I for one would not mind if you used parts of existing chracters if the end result was sufficiently different. Of course you'd have to get an okay in the end from the original artists, so it's a gamble if you create something and they don't like it.

For example, one thing we're missing is... the Pope. Or a character that could be generically the Pope or a Bishop.

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Kaenash
December 29, 2005 9:08 AM

There are three variations on

No one hassled anyone over that. All I am saying is we can have the pope AND an alt on neovid. I like the neovid character and kind of identify with it.

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crabby
December 29, 2005 9:18 AM

The same artist created three separate poses. It isn't an alien drawn by one person and then someone else came along and photoshopped on an afro.

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Kaenash
December 29, 2005 9:23 AM

Who cares who made the change?

Leonardo probably had an assistant do a brush here and there.

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crabby
December 29, 2005 9:46 AM

I'm guessing the original artist would care who made the change. Considering you didn't ask him and seem to not care about his work at all. I'm guessing he wouldn't be ok with your "changes."

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Kaenash
December 29, 2005 9:51 AM

I love their work. I've said that from the start.

I didn't see a signature on it anywhere.

Crabby am I going to have to remind you of your emails?

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crabby
December 29, 2005 9:56 AM

Notice I'm not the only one telling this is a bad idea.

These are DexX's pieces of art as fuzzyman said. The best thing to do would be to contact him and ask if he is ok with you altering his work.

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boorite
December 29, 2005 2:21 PM

this fight sux!!!1 teh matrix is bettar

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not_Scyess
December 29, 2005 4:23 PM

quote:
Notice I'm not the only one telling this is a bad idea.

These are DexX's pieces of art as fuzzyman said. The best thing to do would be to contact him and ask if he is ok with you altering his work.


Why is everyone igoring the fact it's totally pointless to have a Neovid with short hair?

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BigFrank105
December 29, 2005 4:29 PM

As it is to have pink asian girls.

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ladyjdotnet
December 29, 2005 7:31 PM

quote:
Why is everyone igoring the fact it's totally pointless to have a Neovid with short hair?

Because we all kind of thought it went without saying. We should have realized it's *Kaenash* we're talking to, here.

Kaenash, the point is that your slight variations are clutter. Brad expressed from the very beginning his reluctance to add stuff for the sake of adding things. It makes the list of art cumbersome, leading to a kind of visual overload for someone trying to find images to use in their comics. There is not supposed to be an image to suit every single situation - the challenge is in making your situations fit the images.

Yes, in some cases there are more than left/right orientations. These are exceptions to the rule. Having several different poses for every image is not worth the amount of clutter they'd be.

The bottom line is that the stuff you're making is just not worth mention. Even if DexX gave you the go-ahead to butcher his art, Brad would still be very unlikely to add it because it's not cool enough to add. It's unoriginal fluff. Get over it.

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boorite
December 29, 2005 8:22 PM

suckiest fight evar :-(

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boorite
December 29, 2005 8:52 PM

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BigFrank105
December 29, 2005 9:06 PM

that comic is t3h best focking th1ng evar!!!111one@

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ivytheplant
December 29, 2005 9:19 PM

I think the recolorization is a GREAT idea!

/devil's advocate

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crabby
December 29, 2005 11:03 PM

I think he was banned for having bad ideas.

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DexX
December 29, 2005 11:20 PM

Fuzzyman has the right idea, I think...

He saw a need, some character types that were missing from the site (black characters, a priest, and I think he did some others) and he used some of my old characters pretty much as templates to create original pieces of digital art.

What Kaenash has done is look at the existing characters, have a play around to see what he could do with them, and then say "Here, use these, aren't they great?" His approach is totally backward. Instead of trying to fill a gap, he's trying to cram things into an already over-filled space.

Oh, and the concrete-trowel paint job on the short-haired Neovid's blue shirt is rough and clumsy, unnecessarily so.

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boorite
December 30, 2005 12:54 AM

I think DexX would heartily approve of the use Kaenash has made of his art!

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Hari_Nezumi
December 31, 2005 8:19 PM

quote:
There are three variations on

No one hassled anyone over that. All I am saying is we can have the pope AND an alt on neovid. I like the neovid character and kind of identify with it.



I don't think you get the point. No one cares about your idea. It's YOU they don't like.

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boorite
December 31, 2005 11:54 PM

Stop coddling this Kaenash character. He is clearly a menace and needs to be stopped.

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mandingo
January 1, 2006 2:37 AM

when did it become a standard rule not to submit characters you've tweaked?

if people don't like his tweaks, cool, but don't give him grief for tweaking art when tweaked art was just added to the site a couple months ago

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crabby
January 1, 2006 9:11 AM

Tweak this.

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Kaenash
January 1, 2006 10:56 AM

Mandingo, just like with the 2006 contribution, you got it right, and yet because one truism of internet arguing is "If the swarm say it is true, then it must be".

I am a "menace" because I colored in and tweaked a character that I would enjoy using on the site. See how it works? How dare I.

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crabby
January 1, 2006 10:59 AM

A menace who doesn't understand sarcasm. Thats the worst kind.

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choadwarrior
January 1, 2006 11:22 AM

Mandingo raises a very good point--other art has been tweaked and subsequently added to the site. His examples, however, took the art in a different direction and created new comedic possibilities for the site.

It's been said over and over in other threads: We have enough generic white guys here. What we need is diversity in age, gender, and race, or characters that offer unique new situations (like the fireman, doctor, mailman, nurse, etc).

So let's back off of Kaenash. He had an idea. It wasn't a particularly useful one. We should get over it. Kaenash, feel free to offer up other submissions, just keep in mind what the site needs rather than what you need.

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pslock
January 1, 2006 11:33 AM

There goes choad bringing an air of calm rationality and logic into the discussion where it is CLEARLY not wanted.

You make me sick.

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dcomposed
January 1, 2006 1:17 PM

Kaenash I heard you were making a Kaenash character with this but everyone is too scared to mention it.

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Hari_Nezumi
January 1, 2006 1:39 PM

Again, to mandingo and choad, look at my earlier post and you'll find the purpose for teh raggin' on ol' what's his face.

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