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boorite
January 16, 2002 12:25 PM

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Clappy
January 16, 2002 2:57 PM

It looks like you're a fatass 376 pound bastard! How may I help?

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gabe_billings
January 16, 2002 4:35 PM

You know the world is going to shit when you can't get your weight from a novelty scale without being told off.

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DexX
January 16, 2002 10:34 PM

Yes, I read about this.

Is anybody else thinking "disgruntled ex-employee" or is it just me?

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ladyjdotnet
January 17, 2002 8:34 AM

quote:
They're onto you. Lie low for a while.

I'd just like to say one thing.

BLESS you for getting the lie/lay decision right. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. So many of my otherwise intelligent and educated friends always say "lay". It drives me absolutely bonkers.

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Spankling
January 17, 2002 9:37 AM

quote:
quote:
They're onto you. Lie low for a while.

I'd just like to say one thing.

BLESS you for getting the lie/lay decision right. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. So many of my otherwise intelligent and educated friends always say "lay". It drives me absolutely bonkers.


I imagine everyone could use a lay every now and then.

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kaufman
January 17, 2002 9:54 AM

There's a song about that, isn't there?

The man says, "Lay low," and the woman says, "You've got me on my knees!" Then he says it again, and she screams out of agony, "I'm begging you darling, please!" Then on the third "Lay low" she asks him to ease her pedantic mind.

Than there's a long piano solo, and the birds chirp, and they live happily ever after.

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bunnerabb
January 17, 2002 9:57 AM

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There's a song about that, isn't there?

Than there's a long piano solo, and the birds chirp, and they live happily ever after.



That piano solo and chirping bird were some of the best things ever put to disc.

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kaufman
January 17, 2002 10:03 AM

quote:
quote:
There's a song about that, isn't there?

Than there's a long piano solo, and the birds chirp, and they live happily ever after.



That piano solo and chirping bird were some of the best things ever put to disc.
All your base, brother, all your base!

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boorite
January 17, 2002 10:42 AM

quote:
quote:
They're onto you. Lie low for a while.

I'd just like to say one thing.

BLESS you for getting the lie/lay decision right. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. So many of my otherwise intelligent and educated friends always say "lay". It drives me absolutely bonkers.


In all honesty, I was thinking of you as I chose my words. I know how you feel about usage.

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DexX
January 18, 2002 9:24 AM

What is the difference between lie and lay? I am assuming that lay is transitive and lie is intransitive, but I'm just guessing, really.

You lie down, but you lay something else down, is that it?

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JrnymnNate
January 18, 2002 9:28 AM

"Lie low" is future tense.

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DexX
January 18, 2002 9:36 AM

But telling someone "lie low" is imperative, not future tense...

*shrug*

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ladyjdotnet
January 18, 2002 10:10 AM

Here's the interesting thing. Even though I'm a stickler for usage, I never know the names of the tenses and how to explain why you say something one way and not the other.

I just know that a person can lie down, or you can lay a thing down. However, in the past tense, a person will have lay down, or laid a thing down.

I lie down to go to sleep, after which I have lay down to go to sleep. I lay the smack down on JrnymnNate, after which I have laid the smack down.

Also, a thing can lie flat, or you can lay it flat.

However, the slang use of "lay" is different. In that case, a "lay" is a noun, and the noun is verbed. "I need a lay." "I need to get laid." "I should have gotten laid just before my trip." "I'd better stop talking about getting laid."

It's like that.

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kaufman
January 18, 2002 10:25 AM

But there are a couple of past forms. There's the regular past, which you mentioned, then there's the participle form (preceded by "have" or "had" in the present and past perfect tenses). The forms may or may not be different.

Thus, I lie, I lay, I have lain.
I lay, I laid, I have laid.

I think.

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boorite
January 18, 2002 11:16 AM

Right, doc, which is why people tend to say "lay low." You can say, past tense, "I lay low for a while," but not present tense, "I am laying low for a while." Confusing.

Now, anyone want to take a crack at "awhile" vs. "a while?"

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boorite
January 18, 2002 11:18 AM

BTW, "the imperative" is a sense, not a tense, IIRC. "Lie low for a while" is in the imperative and so equivalent to saying "You lie low for a while." So it's present tense, 2nd person.

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wirthling
January 18, 2002 12:03 PM

From dictionary.com:

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Usage Note: Lay (“to put, place, or prepare”) and lie (“to recline or be situated”) have been confused for centuries; evidence exists that lay has been used to mean “lie” since the 1300s. Why? First, there are two lays. One is the base form of the verb lay, and the other is the past tense of lie. Second, lay was once used with a reflexive pronoun to mean “lie” and survives in the familiar line from the child's prayer Now I lay me down to sleep; lay me down is easily shortened to lay down. Third, lay down, as in She lay down on the sofa sounds the same as laid down, as in I laid down the law to the kids. ·Lay and lie are most easily distinguished by usage. Lay is a transitive verb and takes a direct object. Lay and its principal parts (laid, laying) are correctly used in the following examples: He laid (not lay) the newspaper on the table. The table was laid for four. Lie is an intransitive verb and cannot take an object. Lie and its principal parts (lay, lain, lying) are correctly used in the following examples: She often lies (not lays) down after lunch. When I lay (not laid) down, I fell asleep. The rubbish had lain (not laid) there a week. I was lying (not laying) in bed when he called. ·There are a few exceptions to these rules. The phrasal verb lay for and the nautical use of lay, as in lay at anchor,though intransitive, are standard.

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JrnymnNate
January 18, 2002 5:45 PM

hmmm... It all makes sense now.

You'd better lie low, because laying low makes you have layed down after lying to the police.

er... right?

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Clappy
January 18, 2002 5:58 PM

That's a damn lay and you know it.

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KajunFirefly
January 18, 2002 6:33 PM

That's the fourth time I've tried to read and understand this thread, and once again I wake up in a confused daze with the keyboard stuck to my face!

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Spankling
January 18, 2002 7:00 PM

Lay down Sally.

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DexX
January 19, 2002 8:06 AM

Let me see if I have this straight...


- - - - - - - infinitive - - - past tense - - - continuant

transitive - - - lay - - - - - - laid - - - - - laying -

intransitive - - lie - - - - - - lay- - - - - - lying -

I lie on a bed when I wish to sleep.
I will lie on a bed tonight.
I lay on a bed last night.
I am lying on a bed right now.

I lay bricks for a living.
I will lay bricks tomorrow.
I laid bricks yesterday.
I have been laying bricks for many years.

Oh, for those who don't get the (in)transitive thing - a transitive verb is one which takes a subject and an object, while an intransitive verb takes only a subject. In other words, a transitive verb is one that is done to or with something else.

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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
January 19, 2002 10:57 AM

Returning to the main point.

"Hackers apparently spotted a secret password used by the programmers , and used this to change the displays on screen"

If it had been Dexx , the screen would have said "RAARRR.TOBOR WLLL CORNHOLE YOU NOW YOU FAT BASTARD"

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JrnymnNate
January 19, 2002 11:35 AM

"You are overweight. Tobor will cornhole you. Lie low."

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