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The_young_scot
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I say we just ban crimes. Make them illegal even. And if you get caught doing them, they could maybe put you in a building somewhere out of the way of everyone else.

Who would commit crimes if they are banned?

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4-21-07 4:48am (new)
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mandingo
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ivytheplant

I wasn't trying to prove that; I was pointing out flaws in statistics


you missed the joke

ivytheplantcommon sense doesn't say that. common sense told me it was population density when you said that. statistics can always be manipulated, sure. but to dismiss all statistics out of hand because of some people misusing them is pretty silly

though i can see why someone who wants to prove a reduction in guns wouldn't reduce weapon-related deaths would want to remove statistics and common sense from the debate }:)

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4-21-07 5:17am (new)
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ivytheplant
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I was referring to someone else saying that statistics and common sense say that less guns means less gun rime, even though neither do. But as boorite pointed out, you can't really apply "common sense" to this thing at all. For starters, common sense isn't that common and everyone has a different idea of what common sense is.

For example: common sense tells me not to block someone else's driveway all weekend. Apparently I'm some sort of minority in this nieghborhood as common sense tells everyone else it's okay to do so. Common sense also tells me that turn signals are supposed to be used so other drivers know what the hell I'm doing when I'm at an intersection. However, common sense seems to tell the majority of people in this town that turn signals aren't necessary.

4-21-07 11:55am (new)
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The_young_scot
Makes out like a Lesbian

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Common sense tells me to burn stuff, and then laugh manically.

 

Well, I assumed it was common sense.

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4-21-07 4:50pm (new)
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ivytheplant
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That's just fun with or without common sense.

Says the girl who was a pyro when she was 12... 

4-21-07 8:40pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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Aren't all kids pyros when they're 12? At least a little bit? You're not a full fledged pyro unless you've burned down at least a garden shed.

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4-21-07 8:57pm (new)
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mandingo
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well, true. common sense as a debating tool can be just the threat, "agree with me or you're stupid." but i think it can be used genuinely as a "one would think...", for instance common sense tells me (one would think) reducing the number of guns would reduce the number of gun fatalities.

even after you get past whether it reduces weapons related deaths though (which seemed like the obvious part to me), then you get to the hard part of individual freedom versus public safety. unless both sides were to agree on some goal as paramount, such as minimizing fatalities, which is unlikely, it's basically just competing desires and opinion from that point on, with no right or wrong. who's to say someone who weights individual freedom-to-public safety 60-40 in importance is more accurate than someone who weights it 40-60? even if you agree on some common framework like quality of life, both have their merits and the weighting of both within that framework will be relative to each person's value system. all you can do is put it to a vote. then say fuck it and go crackmole jesusbungee

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4-21-07 11:03pm (new)
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mandingo
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gabe_billingsi just walk around lighting matches at the burn ward. what's that make me?

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4-21-07 11:07pm (new)
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AngryAmerican
Here at least 3 times a year

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i want to go crackmole jesusbungee.

or was it crackjesus molebungee?

fuck i'm high.

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4-22-07 12:50am (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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mandingo

My hero.

4-22-07 1:18am (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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gabe_billings

I had started to set the woods on fire, but my friend got scared and put it out. Then my mom found my stash of firestarting tools and confiscated them and gave me a long lecture on safety. When I was teenager she found my collection of the lesbian porn I sketched and gave me a really really long lecture on how it's just a phase that all girls go through and I'll get over it.

Right.

4-22-07 1:21am (new)
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UnknownEric
and the Goblet of Mountain Dew.

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ivytheplant
When I was 11, I used to love to set cardboard boxes on fire. Until the time I accidentally set one on fire with me in it. After turning into the Hulk and leaping 600 feet in the air, I decided not to do that anymore.

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4-23-07 6:47am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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There's this cool gas bomb that makes a huge fireball/mushroom cloud, but you can't get the wide-mouthed glass Gatorade bottles anymore. Maybe Almaden bottles would work.

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4-23-07 10:34am (new)
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