The Buddhists in my family don't believe in a god. And they are constantly stomped back into oblivion by mainstream Christians. Please don't act like these messages are trying to be inclusive.

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I'm not. I'm saying they're not trying to be exclusive.

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I just hope we don't look back at this in three years and see that mainly what we did was kill innocent people and escalate world wide violence, accomplishing little to nothing in the way of slowing down terrorism or catching those responsible. But I see that as the most likely outcome, unless we do worse.

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I haven't killed any people, innocent or not.
I just get sick of all the peace mongers burning flags and turning this into another Viet Nam.

I get sick of people fighting against those who are simply supporting the lost with harmless messages of love.

I am not a christian, I'm nearly a satanist, but I think that freedom of speech includes the ability to post that marquee. There was no particular religion pushed on the kids. If anything, the ACLU is trying to push atheism on the school.

I've been opposed to assuming this was middle easterners from the start. The ease of clues found, and all the crap early on, as well as how perfectly all those buildings fell (including ones that were not even hit) just lead me to think it was not even muslims.

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I'm pretty sure we will do worse... worldwide as people, not just the US as a nation. But then again, I'm a hopeless, hard bitten cynic in need of a psychological band-aid.

In other words, a comedian, like the rest of us. :)

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Hear hear!

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What, you mean it isn't? US-led forces pummelling the living shit out of a second-world country for no justifiable reason... sounds awfully familiar to me...

Oh, I am intrigued by your use of "peace mongers" in that sentence. You seem to imply that it is a bad thing. I am a peacemonger - I believe that peace is always the best option, and that war should be a last resort, not a default.

I'd rather be a peacemonger than, say, a warmonger or hatemonger. Wouldn't you?

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What, you mean it isn't? US-led forces pummeling the living shit out of a second-world country for no justifiable reason... sounds awfully familiar to me...

Oh, I am intrigued by your use of "peace mongers" in that sentence. You seem to imply that it is a bad thing. I am a peacemonger - I believe that peace is always the best option, and that war should be a last resort, not a default.

I'd rather be a peacemonger than, say, a warmonger or hatemonger. Wouldn't you?

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I would not call it a Vietnam - No one in Vietnam attacked us first. Mind you, Afghanistan never attacked us either. most of the hijackers were from Egypt. But that is a fine point.

I am a proud American peacemonger. I have been and will continue to be a foot soldier helping America be the best it can be. That means supporting diverse views (including others than my own) without killing people. That means admitting when we have been wrong in the past and working to do better. That means honoring our national symbols - I have always treated old glory with respect.

My own belief is Taoism. Taoism grew out of a warlord era in China's past. It was one man telling everyone to sit still for a moment, take a breath, and start doing things that make sense. Run your own life well, then run your family well, and in doing so run the country as you would run your family.

Imagine... How would the world view America if we stopped all our covert activities and sadly admitted our roll in say, money laundering for terrorists and drugs/weapons running and dictator installments. They would be shocked. The obvious would be on the table. But if the truth will set you free, maybe it is the right thing to do. I'm not so Disney to think that this will happen or that evil bastards from other countries would get all misty and stop their activities too. Just dreaming for a moment.

I miss John Lennon in times like these. Imagine.

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Fucking peacemongers! Always mongering peace! Isn't that just like them!

Well, this morning, the dust is clearing from a village we bombed. Place apparently had no military equipment. We killed a bunch of non-combatants. One survivor who was interviewed was in his home when a bomb hit and the mud walls caved in, killing his two brothers. Mud fucking walls. Whoo-hoo, America is riding tall in the saddle, I can tell you. A proud day it is for me when we demonstrate our solidarity and we honor the memory of our dead in this fashion. Anyway, this poor, bleeding, broken-armed, bereaved bastard used his soundbite to plead for the stopping of the bombing today, right now, before someone else's innocent brothers and sisters are killed.

The name of the place indicates that it is an agricultural community with underground irrigation tunnels. I am guessing it was bombed because that's a great place for guerrillas to hide. Let's see-- where did we learn that?

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http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2001/11/01/anarchy_ruling/print.html

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Anarchy is against the rules!

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An Anarchy club? You mean one that would operate under the auspices of school government and has some form of organization and leadership structure?

I don't get it.

Fuck it.
I refuse to even bother with explaining it.
Everyone on this god damn board takes nearly everything I say the wrong way, and perverts my words further, and I fumble trying to explain myself. I'm sick of it, and as of now, I'm not going to post another political comment in the board.

So go burn your flags, base your opinions on completely honest, unbiased underground news sources, and especially internet news, and tout freedom of speech while you're shushing those who are for action at this time.

I'll have no part in it.

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Drexle, they run their meetings according to Robert's Rules of Anarchy.

But seriously folks, isn't it pathetic when you can't wear a t-shirt opposing the war because it would be "disruptive?" Is this America?

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My delusions of comedic grandeur thank you.

Yeah it is... but it wasn't that long ago that I was in HS (even though it feels like it's been centuries) so this sort of thing comes as no surprise.

That's us-- a bunch of flag-burning atheist totalitarians who can't seem to understand plain English.

By the way, NPR is hardly what I'd call an underground news source.

Come on, DX, you can't go foaming off about "peacemongers" burning flags and then cry when we peacemongers fight back. It ain't fair.

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Oh fuck it, I wanted to add one more thing.

I am no for the promotion of peace or war, I am against the peace mongers beating the SHIT out of people wearing american flags on their bodies. You think I'm fucking kidding? Berkley. You do not walk around Berkley showing any sign of patriotism at this time. THAT is what fucking meant by peace-mongers. They are as bad as the people who jump at every little chance to start a war and endanger the lives of every living creature with nuclear war.

For the record, I am all for WAR. Not this inhuman genocide we have been calling war for a little less than a century. Guns, tanks, bombs, subs, biological warfare. This isn't WAR, this is sick. I am not completely for action in Afghanistan, as killing off the Afghanis and Pakis in their own country is just going to anger the muslims in America, and cause a civil "war" in America.

Again, peace-monger to me reveals a dredded 19 year old, with no home, one set of clothes who spanges most of the day, riots at night, killing a police officer, and then goes back home to his parents' house, gets on the computer, and complains that life isn't fair for him. Not all who support peace are what I call peace-mongers.

The peace mongers here are tagging buildings, and ripping off flyers to put up their own flyers. The peace mongers here nearly threaten your life if you disagree with their views. The peace mongers here are not peaceful. They are hypocrites.

And Boorite, as I stated before, in Berkley, and probably many other places in America, you can't wear a "God Bless America" shirt without being beaten-down because you're a "War-Monger" by default if you support america.

I still proudly wave the flag, I still mourn the loss of those who died, and I still feel resentment to those muslims who killed thousands of people, who were not all Americans. I don't think Genocide is the answer to our problem. Nor is assumptiveness.

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So go burn your flags, base your opinions on completely honest, unbiased underground news sources, and especially internet news, and tout freedom of speech while you're shushing those who are for action at this time.

I'll have no part in it.

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I don't think it is the peacemongers doing the shushing. Everyone needs to heard, including peacemongers.

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Oh, it's Berkley. Why didn't you say so?

Yellow Springs, Ohio thought it was Berkley. It was the kind of place where you expected to be set upon by roving gangs of lesbian animal rights activists at any moment. What a way to go, having your kidneys kicked in with non-leather alternative Birkenstocks.

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Then so do the war and hate mongers.

In CHICO, CALIFORNIA, there are several forms of "free" speech available. 98% have very clear disclaimers; They will not tolerate any words of hate, whatsoever. Our Magazine, called 33 Degrees, will tolerate anything so long as it's metal related. Admittedly, this somewhat factors out peace or hate talks, it at least gives them equal time. None.

I will NOT even consider violence toward other peaceful Americans who happen to consider America a nifty place to live a valid form of voicing your opinion. Yes, that includes violence toward muslim-americans.

If, however, the muslim facet of American society becomes hostile, I will change to support it.

Peace in peaceful times, war in war times.

But then, I also think that if wars were fought with swords and shields, they'd be fought less often.

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That's a good start. And let's have the leaders and their children on the front lines instead of the children of the poor. That should cut things back to just necessary violence, which I too support.

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I would agree with the thought process behind that, except all you have to do is look through history... mediaval cultures were most assuredly very violent and warlike.

Definitely.

I think wars happened less often when they were fought by fat guys with unicycles, comical hats, and trick poodles.

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