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Brad
March 22, 2005 4:11 PM

Donors should see a "create set" link under their comics now. It's not completely finished but it works enough for users to play with now I think.

Basically you click that link, name the set and then select comics you'd like to be included in that set of comics. Click save and you should be forwarded to the URL for your set of comics.

Here's an example one I made with Kajun's comics:

http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/KajunFirefly/sets/roadtoaustralia/

The layout is pretty sparse right now, but it gets the point across I think. Once you make some comic sets, you can see them listed on your user info page for now.

Suggestions, bug reports, etc are welcome.

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niteowl
March 22, 2005 4:41 PM

This is awesome. Thanks Brad.

One question though, how is the order in which the comics appear in the dropdown determined? I'm guessing oldest to newest?

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Brad
March 22, 2005 4:49 PM

It'll be oldest to newest. Let me know how it works out for you.

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BigFrank105
March 22, 2005 4:58 PM

http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/BigFrank105/sets/crazydan/

It works great Brad! This is such an awesome idea!

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niteowl
March 22, 2005 5:39 PM

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Injokester
March 22, 2005 5:39 PM

This is brilliant, thankyou!!!

*Was going to suggest this very thing, but figured you were pretty busy...*

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Brad
March 22, 2005 5:58 PM

Awesome, glad it's working.

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BigEvilDan
March 22, 2005 6:12 PM

Very cool feature, brad. A couple of points, though:

1. It needs an edit set feature. I'm sure you've already thought of this, seeing as you specified the short name can't be changed, but I just thought I'd go on record as saying it would be useful.

2. Is there any way to list all the sets a comic is part of on that comic's page? That way, if I'm randomly browsing through somebody's comics and I come across the middle of a series, I can get to the rest of the comics in a click.

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Brad
March 22, 2005 6:19 PM

1. The edit feature is done, I just need to put the link on somewhere.

2. That one would probably be a bit tricky with the way I'm storing things right now, though I can see how it'd be cool.

I'm thinking of eventually (once I'm sure they work OK) giving the sets more prominence on the user comics pages and possibly letting users select a default set when a user goes to their comic page.

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Injokester
March 22, 2005 6:31 PM

Any chance of a 'top rated' for sets?

The feature I'd like to see is to be able to enter a URL for photoshopped comics hosted elsewhere and have them appear as a comic with the usual banner in a user's comics list.

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BigEvilDan
March 22, 2005 6:42 PM

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The feature I'd like to see is to be able to enter a URL for photoshopped comics hosted elsewhere and have them appear as a comic with the usual banner in a user's comics list.

The downside to this can be seen when you replace "photoshopped comics" with "red X because the URL is dead" or "picture of a gaping asshole".

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Brad
March 22, 2005 6:52 PM

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The feature I'd like to see is to be able to enter a URL for photoshopped comics hosted elsewhere and have them appear as a comic with the usual banner in a user's comics list.

The downside to this can be seen when you replace "photoshopped comics" with "red X because the URL is dead" or "picture of a gaping asshole".

Or animations of some chick squeezing her boobs over and over.

Top rated might be possible, though I'd have to calculate the ratings on strips within them or program a whole other rating system.

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BigFrank105
March 22, 2005 6:56 PM

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Or animations of some chick squeezing her boobs over and over

That might end up doubling the site's popularity. Ever since injokester arrived I find my self spending way more time in the forums.

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Injokester
March 22, 2005 7:01 PM

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The downside to this can be seen when you replace "photoshopped comics" with "red X because the URL is dead" or "picture of a gaping asshole".

I did think of that, it could work if it had a reporting button, so if say three people report it as a dead URL it can be deleted. As for the latter, it would be a donor only feature, and that'd be a great way to get an account and all its comics banned.

Possibly even a few regulars could be set up to review and approve comics of this nature before they can be viewed (options for Approved/Declined and Warned). If it were a known rule that only images deemed as comics could be used, no pornographic art, etc... then if a user gets three warnings they lose that feature from their account.

To be honest I don't see it being that different censorship wise than the forums, where people can already post what they like.

Anyway, it's just a suggestion. I think it'd be a great feature that would promote creativity if applied correctly.

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Injokester
March 22, 2005 7:03 PM

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Or animations of some chick squeezing her boobs over and over.

My sig is very popular...

Seriously though, that's what I'm talking about- submitting something like that as a comic = banning.

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fuzzyman
March 22, 2005 7:12 PM

Here's probably one of the longer examples of a set you'll see... 100 strips long.

http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/fuzzyman/sets/puppetmaster/

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Brad
March 22, 2005 7:13 PM

It's a decent idea, Injokester. Feel free to make a thread about the suggestion, but lets keep this one to the set creator thang please.

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Injokester
March 22, 2005 7:18 PM

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It's a decent idea, Injokester. Feel free to make a thread about the suggestion, but lets keep this one to the set creator thang please.

Will do ^_^

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Brad
March 22, 2005 9:32 PM

There should now be an "edit set" link when viewing a set of yours while logged in. It all seems to work, let me know if you have any problems.

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biped
March 22, 2005 10:02 PM

This is the greatest special feature ever.

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kaufman
March 22, 2005 10:05 PM

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umfumdisi
March 22, 2005 11:32 PM

This feature is the best thing since sliced poutine.

Mega-Thanks Brad!

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evil_d
March 23, 2005 8:31 AM

First of all, I have been eagerly anticipating this feature for months, and am overjoyed to see it finally implemented. Thanks, Brad. This is truly excellent.

Second, naturally I have some suggestions.

1. I second BigEvilDan's idea of having some way to tell, when looking at a comic, what sets it belongs to. Although I don't have any ideas about how I'd implement it. You could just have drop-down lists for each set in addition to the normal drop-down list for all comics.

2. My suggestion for featuring sets on a user's page is to have another drop-down list, below the comic drop-down list(s), that lists each set. Mostly because I can't think of any other method that wouldn't take up a lot of space.

3. I'd like sets to be listed in some order other than the order in which I created them, which is arbitrary and may not make any sense to the reader. Alphabetical should be easy and could help keep related sets together. Another possibility is to order them by the number of the first comic (or first unique comic, if one comic begins multiple sets). I'm sure someone will eventually ask to be able to set the order themselves, but I don't want that feature enough to actually ask you to do all that work.

4. I suspect this will be difficult, but I suppose there's no harm in asking. What if sets could contain both comics and other sets? That way I could have, say, one set called "Comic Contest 463 entries", and one called "Comic Contest 464 entries", and one called "All Comic Contest entries" that includes both of the previous sets, plus any contest entries where I only wrote one comic for the contest and so don't need a separate set for it. I guess this could get weird when some joker makes two sets that include each other. I don't know. Just an idea.

5. What if you could make a set that included other people's comics, or if two or more users could somehow make collaborative sets? This would help organize tag-team series. Again I don't have a clear idea of how I would implement this; it might be too difficult.

6. At least one of my suggestions should be simple: can we have as much space allowed for titling sets as for titling comics? For example, I had to make a set called RM & PL Travel Through Time because of space constraints, even though a comic title like Retroactive Man & Potential Lad Travel Through Time (10/13) fits.

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Brad
March 23, 2005 9:12 AM

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1. I second BigEvilDan's idea of having some way to tell, when looking at a comic, what sets it belongs to. Although I don't have any ideas about how I'd implement it. You could just have drop-down lists for each set in addition to the normal drop-down list for all comics.

Yeah, I like this idea. I wish I had thought of it when I was writing this thing. I may be able to come up with a way to implement this though.

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2. My suggestion for featuring sets on a user's page is to have another drop-down list, below the comic drop-down list(s), that lists each set. Mostly because I can't think of any other method that wouldn't take up a lot of space.

Dropdown is possible, though I worry having two dropdowns would get confusing to the casual visitor. But I have no idea if that's true or not. My original idea was just to replace the favorites list with the set lists, but I'm not so sure about that anymore.

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3. I'd like sets to be listed in some order other than the order in which I created them...

Should be no problem, I'll do that.

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4. I suspect this will be difficult, but I suppose there's no harm in asking. What if sets could contain both comics and other sets?

That'd be pretty freaky, I'll have to think about that one.

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5. What if you could make a set that included other people's comics, or if two or more users could somehow make collaborative sets?

I wrote the set system with this sort of thing in mind - so people could make lists of, say, all the comic contest comics ever, their favorites, etc. There are a few problems I've thought of about that though:

1. How do you let users select the comics to be in the set? I can't give people a list of 300,000 checkboxes.

2. The sets could get super huge, which becomes a server pig whenever anyone hits a page that has the whole list of comics on it (like in the dropdown menu).

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6. At least one of my suggestions should be simple: can we have as much space allowed for titling sets as for titling comics?

Sure, I'll do that in a sec.

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Brad
March 23, 2005 9:14 AM

Also I posted it in system notices, but I should probably post it here too:

http://www.stripcreator.com/sets/

You can view all the sets in order of creation on that page there. We're up to 167 already, which is pretty awesome.

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Brad
March 23, 2005 9:26 AM

Sets are now sorted alphabetically in the user info pages and set titles can now be 60 characters long (same as comic titles).

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kaufman
March 23, 2005 9:29 AM

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5. What if you could make a set that included other people's comics, or if two or more users could somehow make collaborative sets?

I wrote the set system with this sort of thing in mind - so people could make lists of, say, all the comic contest comics ever, their favorites, etc. There are a few problems I've thought of about that though:

1. How do you let users select the comics to be in the set? I can't give people a list of 300,000 checkboxes.

2. The sets could get super huge, which becomes a server pig whenever anyone hits a page that has the whole list of comics on it (like in the dropdown menu).


Usually, these would be tag-team series -- seldom involving more than two users. One way to handle the logistics would be to allow the set creator to "push off" to the list of comics by someone on their favorites list, accessible by a pull-down menu (not on your list? Add them for a moment.)

For instance, the "Bipolarity" series I wrote with DexX: First I'd select all my comics from the series, then bring up his comics through the pull-down, and select all of his. I'd commit the set, and It would include all those comics in chronological order.

I'll let wiser minds than me determine if the set should also be added to DexX's list of sets as well, or not.

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evil_d
March 23, 2005 9:47 AM

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Sets are now sorted alphabetically in the user info pages and set titles can now be 60 characters long (same as comic titles).

Thank you!

Oh, one more request: a way to delete sets?

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For instance, the "Bipolarity" series I wrote with DexX: First I'd select all my comics from the series, then bring up his comics through the pull-down, and select all of his. I'd commit the set, and It would include all those comics in chronological order.

That sounds like it would work.

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I'll let wiser minds than me determine if the set should also be added to DexX's list of sets as well, or not.

I'd say no, only because it would allow users to spam other users' set lists. It shouldn't be too much trouble for DexX to do the same thing.

Whether there's potential for abuse in being able to put other people's comics in your sets -- enough potential that we should be concerned about it -- I don't know. For example, what if I make a set full of sub_m7's comics and title it "Comics that suck"? Is that okay? I guess I can't do much worse than that via this system, and that's probably not so terrible.

There might be something to be said for allowing users to organize older sets on behalf of folks who've long since left the site.

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Brad
March 23, 2005 10:12 AM

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Oh, one more request: a way to delete sets?

Working on that slowly. For the time being if there's a set you want deleted, just email me and I'll take care of it.

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MikeyG
March 23, 2005 10:23 AM

maybe there could just be an "add comic to set" option that you can click on someone else's comic. When that comes up, a message is sent to the user saying "Allow (username of person requesting add option) to add this comic to their list", which they then have to okay.

It sounds like another shitload of stuff to handle, though. I'd be content if there was a way to at least link to the thread where both sets from the collaboration are stored IN or NEAR the comics themselves.

Truth be told, although I've got a few collaborations myself, I'm just happy with the set idea in the first place.

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BigEvilDan
March 23, 2005 10:47 AM

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maybe there could just be an "add comic to set" option that you can click on someone else's comic. When that comes up, a message is sent to the user saying "Allow (username of person requesting add option) to add this comic to their list", which they then have to okay.

Is the confirmation really necessary? The worst I could see happening without it is I create a set of "MikeyG comics that suck", but I could already do that via forum thread. But the confirmation would prevent me from, say, finishing my remaking a classic set.

I do like the "add comic to set" link idea, though. It would be great for a miscellaneous collection of other people's comics (if a bit less useful than kaufman's suggestion for tag-team sets).

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It sounds like another shitload of stuff to handle, though. I'd be content if there was a way to at least link to the thread where both sets from the collaboration are stored IN or NEAR the comics themselves.

Since the set descriptions allow HTML, you can already do this with the current setup, although in the past I've suggested that the ability to store small text/HTML annotations with your comics would be quite handy.

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DragonXero
March 23, 2005 7:22 PM

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5. What if you could make a set that included other people's comics, or if two or more users could somehow make collaborative sets?

I wrote the set system with this sort of thing in mind - so people could make lists of, say, all the comic contest comics ever, their favorites, etc. There are a few problems I've thought of about that though:

1. How do you let users select the comics to be in the set? I can't give people a list of 300,000 checkboxes.

2. The sets could get super huge, which becomes a server pig whenever anyone hits a page that has the whole list of comics on it (like in the dropdown menu).



I agree that this would be very nice. Mainly because I have a couple of comic tag team comics. One from Drexle that I'd really like to make into a set, so I could find the comics more easily.

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umfumdisi
March 23, 2005 7:46 PM

Aren't we great?

Brad gives us a mile (km), and we ask for a few more inches (cm).

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Spankling
March 23, 2005 8:51 PM

You are suck the man Brad!

Such! Such the man!

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MikeyG
March 24, 2005 5:50 AM

I'm not sure it's necessary to add other people's comics to a set anymore, because you can put the link to the thread where they all are in your profile.

Also, the confirmation would be necessary if such a plan were implemented because anyone can make a thread of "MikeyG comics that suck" and put all my shitty ones in there, but when you have them directly accessible from your comics page that may be a little much. I may be cool with that, but I'd like the ability to NOT be cool with that by clicking the "no" box or something.

And don't be jealous, BigEvilDan, just because some of my comics actually DO suck. Wait...uh...

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Veng
March 24, 2005 6:32 AM

Are sets only something doners can do?

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thochaos
March 28, 2005 1:55 AM

I am loving this feature and also second evil_d's suggestions. I also like MikeyG's idea about permission to use other peoples strips. But overall Brad, it's already freakin' awesome! Thanks again!

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Injokester
March 29, 2005 9:31 PM

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Sets are now sorted alphabetically in the user info pages and set titles can now be 60 characters long (same as comic titles).

Just a reminder to people, I don't think this was covered, but you can order your sets however you like, if you put a number before the name of each set. However, you'll have to start counting at 10 (as 2 is listed between 19 and 20 alphabetically).

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Rabid_Weasle
March 30, 2005 7:55 AM

That can be solved by putting number padding onto your titles. For example, if you had more than 10, 1-9 would be 01, 02, 03...09, 10, 11 ect. If you had more than a hundred (god help us) you'd put two zeros in front of the 1s and one in front of the 10s.

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Injokester
March 30, 2005 2:30 PM

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That can be solved by putting number padding onto your titles. For example, if you had more than 10, 1-9 would be 01, 02, 03...09, 10, 11 ect. If you had more than a hundred (god help us) you'd put two zeros in front of the 1s and one in front of the 10s.

Awesome! I hadn't thought of that.

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andydougan
March 31, 2005 9:24 AM

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attitudechicka
January 17, 2006 8:41 AM

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2. My suggestion for featuring sets on a user's page is to have another drop-down list, below the comic drop-down list(s), that lists each set. Mostly because I can't think of any other method that wouldn't take up a lot of space.

Dropdown is possible, though I worry having two dropdowns would get confusing to the casual visitor. But I have no idea if that's true or not. My original idea was just to replace the favorites list with the set lists, but I'm not so sure about that anymore.


I just wanted to bump this idea up due to recent navigation of a user's comics (or lack thereof).

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