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BobRogers
September 27, 2005 12:48 PM

It is one thing to support a running gag of Tobor cornholing a character and quite another to post a link in the forum of live humans actually explicitly doing just that same thing.

I object to the lack of subtlety and innuendo.

What is the policy concerning the posting of hard core porn links inside a forum post.

Did I not read somewhere that schoolkids use SC?

I realize that everything is subject to humor here, but are we not limited by even a small amount of common sense?

http://www.stripcreator.com/forums/showthread.php?postnum=190916 post # 4 is the post I question.

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KajunFirefly
September 27, 2005 1:30 PM

I deleted the post in question at the behest of Mr flipynif1. He realises the error of his ways.

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KajunFirefly
September 27, 2005 1:47 PM

Although, since this thread has started, can I ask others what they think of the "NIGGERIFIC" picture that Kaenash posts all the time? Personally I think it's very irritating and I'm always tempted to delete the post, but then I don't want to get drawn into a huge racism debate.

I'm all for comedic racism if it's done with a hint of irony and I guess it's not any more offensive to Black people as the "YOU'RE A HOMO" picture is to gay people, or any number of Asian girl comics is to an entire continent. I think the problem I have with it is that there seems to be absolutely no connection between the picture and the thread.

Maybe I'm the only person who has a problem with this, but it just seems strange that we now have an obscenity filter yet no way to stop people from having to see this nonsense in the most innocent of threads.

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flipynif1
September 27, 2005 1:54 PM

I am in agreeance. I think the only place for a niggerific picture is in a niggerific thread...

I'm sure Mandingo could start a thread that that niggerific pic would suit.

Otherwise, there is lots of "offensive" stuff on the site. I think it all depends on the viewer as to how it offends, if at all.

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basic
September 27, 2005 3:35 PM

I fuckin' agree. I mean, why the fuck come on here if you're gonna act like a dirty motherfuckin' cunt!? I mean, hell, lets just kick those motherfuckers who can't be decent out of this website and let those fuck-doodles post their offensive shit somewhere else on the fucking internet. Man, some mother fucking cunts are just so tasteless.

The cock suckers.

Wait, I'm the only one who clicks on those links while I'm going "potty"?

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flipynif1
September 27, 2005 3:52 PM

"potty" is a FILTHY WORD!! GO WASH OUT YOUR MOUTH!! NOW! WHILE YOU'RE AT IT HAVE A FUCKING TIME OUT!!

OMG I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT!!!

*explodes*

BTW if you wanna see the Offending link click here...

WARNING!! XXX TRANSEXUAL STUFF THAT OFFENDED A TASTELESS PERSON!!

nsfwMeatspin Yuckinessnsfw

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matclarke
September 27, 2005 3:59 PM

i'm not obscene cause you can't see my nipples

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basic
September 27, 2005 4:05 PM

While we're at it, why not www.lemonparty.org?!

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flipynif1
September 27, 2005 4:06 PM

There's always that, and tubgirl and goatse as well as MANY MANY others I know and send to everyone on MSN.

The point here is...

peanut butter

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basic
September 27, 2005 4:12 PM

PEANUT BUTTER?

FOR SHAME! THE CORRECT ANWSER IS...

Donkey dick.

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Brad
September 27, 2005 8:15 PM

So there's a thread complaining about obscene links and you guys decided it would be cool to post a bunch of obscene links in here? What the hell are you thinking?

Keep it off the Stripcreator forums. If you want to continue posting that sort of stuff, you'll be banned.

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DragonXero
September 28, 2005 1:54 AM

I TRIED to set a prescedent that would get people to post "EXPLICIT" or something of that nature in threads they were intending to post explicit material in. As for the links, don't blind link people, especially not on Stripcreator. That's fucked up. I'm not at all for censorship, but at the same time I fully support Brad's right to do it in any case he deems worthy. This is not a democracy and you won't get your way by crying about censorship.
Only government censorship is outlawed in the constitution. This is brad's server and brad's rules. Am I kissing ass? In a roundabout way, yes, but that's not the intention. I'm trying to set forth a point.
Cut back on the pointlessly racist words, try to be a little more eloquent with your swears and in general don't be such douches when you're posting. This may not be a "family" site, but there are people under 18 coming here, have a little respect.
As for "explicit" stuff, I'm not really talking about the occasional boobie picture that little Timmy would have stumbled upon anyway. I'm talking about the sick crap like what Goatse used to be. It's not funny to do that, especially to kids.
And if Brad decides to ban someone for posting stuff he has very explicitly stated he doesn't want on here, I will be the last to complain.

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mandingo
September 28, 2005 2:43 AM

first of all, Brad can do whatever he wants. it's his site. he can ban you for having vowels in your name or because he doesn't like the cut of your jib. so that's not really up for debate and people who use that to make their point are circumventing the issue since i doubt they'd be so willing to use the argument if they were banned for an arbitrary reason they didn't like

that said, i think it sucks that one person can complain and ruin it for the rest of us. and where's the line drawn? will Zaster get banned for posting this in caption mountain which we all had a lot of fun with? it's censhorship and it limits the funny. plus it's naive to think that kids can't and don't go 1000s of places online and see porn and stripcreator is hardly at the top of their list. i think allowing it is the best option, allowing it with a required NSFW tag is the second best, and censoring it is by far the worst

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Brad
September 28, 2005 6:26 AM

quote:
that said, i think it sucks that one person can complain and ruin it for the rest of us. and where's the line drawn? will Zaster get banned for posting this in caption mountain which we all had a lot of fun with? it's censhorship and it limits the funny. plus it's naive to think that kids can't and don't go 1000s of places online and see porn and stripcreator is hardly at the top of their list. i think allowing it is the best option, allowing it with a required NSFW tag is the second best, and censoring it is by far the worst

I don't want porn or "shock" links on Stripcreator. Stripcreator is extremely relaxed when it comes to swearing and rude subjects. Visuals are a whole other deal and not one I'm willing to defend.

There's nothing funny about posting links to porn or gross-out or obscene stuff that people may accidentally click or see. It's just stupid and pointless trolling. It derails threads, upsets people, makes it harder for users to visit Stripcreator at work or at school or just around others.

Nobody has complained to me about that Caption Mountain thread. And I wouldn't consider banning Zaster if I did wind up deleting it. He posted an image that was more explicit than I'd prefer in the forum designated for posting images. I'd explain why I deleted it and politely ask him to tone it down a bit in the future.

That's completely different than posting moronic links and images in the middle of active threads, which is just disruptive and stupid on its own and then is actually offensive to a lot of users due to the content linked. And then after someone says it offended them, heading over to the Bugs & Suggestions forum to do it a bit more. Above and beyond the actual content of the links, that demonstrates some serious disrespect for the other users on the site. And that's what's worth banning over.

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mandingo
September 28, 2005 12:15 PM

i didn't think they were being disrespectful or trollish, i just thought they were having fun. i found it funny when i clicked on it after i vomited in my mouth a couple of times

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basic
September 28, 2005 4:36 PM

I'm sorry Brad.

Deepest apologies.

:(

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DragonXero
September 28, 2005 10:02 PM

quote:
first of all, Brad can do whatever he wants. it's his site. he can ban you for having vowels in your name or because he doesn't like the cut of your jib. so that's not really up for debate and people who use that to make their point are circumventing the issue since i doubt they'd be so willing to use the argument if they were banned for an arbitrary reason they didn't like
Wouldn't be able to use the argument if I got banned for it, but at the same time, I'd expect everyone to get on with their lives if brad decided he didn't want people with X replacing Z in their names. I'd be pissed, yeah, but hey, it's not like I'm paying a monthly fee for this site.

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Chi_The_Cynic
September 29, 2005 3:15 AM

One of the things which detracts me from posting in any number of threads is that whilst many start off as interesting and/or amusing, the majority end up tailing off into a sea of racial slurs, stupid links and obscene images. I'm not a prude, and am not personally offended by this sort of material, but I do find it incredibly irritating.

If people want to post daft pictures or see how many times they can type the word "nigger" before their fingers fall off, then by all means keep it contained within threads that never had any other purpose or point. But don't interrupt an otherwise perfectly funny and/or interesting thread with moronic postings that end up killing off the thread because people like me (and, I suspect, Kajun among others) can't be bothered to contribute anymore. It's just not cool.

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Brad
September 29, 2005 5:01 AM

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i didn't think they were being disrespectful or trollish, i just thought they were having fun. i found it funny when i clicked on it after i vomited in my mouth a couple of times

I'm sure they were having fun. I'm also sure every troll who has come through here was having fun as well. Which then made lots of the other users not have fun. Is your argument that as long as one person is having fun I shouldn't do anything about it?

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Brad
September 29, 2005 5:09 AM

quote:
One of the things which detracts me from posting in any number of threads is that whilst many start off as interesting and/or amusing, the majority end up tailing off into a sea of racial slurs, stupid links and obscene images. I'm not a prude, and am not personally offended by this sort of material, but I do find it incredibly irritating.

I agree, that sort of stuff is annoying. I'm never quite sure what to do about it though. Do I just straight-up start killing off-topic messages, ask them to stop, or what? Also users don't tend to point that stuff out to me. I only tend to hear about it when something quite bad happens.

Maybe we need a rule about thread hijacking/derailing and a little reminder on etiquette.

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Chi_The_Cynic
September 29, 2005 5:26 AM

quote:
I agree, that sort of stuff is annoying. I'm never quite sure what to do about it though. Do I just straight-up start killing off-topic messages, ask them to stop, or what? Also users don't tend to point that stuff out to me. I only tend to hear about it when something quite bad happens.


I don't like to point everything out since there's far more about this site which I like than dislike. Also, I know you have more pressing issues to address than what happens to annoy me personally (though I do suspect that what annoys me probably annoys a fair number of other people too).

quote:
Maybe we need a rule about thread hijacking/derailing and a little reminder on etiquette.

I remember Chicka had an animated FAQ link in her signature at one stage, and as well as being funny, it made a good point. I think there should be some rules on thread etiquette/derailing which people agree to stick by. If people want to let off steam or post inanity, I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to do it - but perhaps it should be done in a separate area. A simple rule could be that threads in "General Discussion" shouldn't be threads for being an arse in. Perhaps "Fights Go Here" could be the more lenient forum, and people wishing to be arses could arse around in there as they please.

What do other people think?

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mandingo
September 29, 2005 5:47 AM

quote:
Is your argument that as long as one person is having fun I shouldn't do anything about it?
is yours that as long as one person isn't, you should? that's basically what happened here. one person complained

my argument is two-fold:


  1. censorship is bad. it's especially bad to creativity, which this site relies on heavily
  2. if we start pandering to the idea of 'kids might see this', 80% of the stuff on here would have to be deleted. this is primarily an adult site. it should be regulated as such

quote:
Perhaps "Fights Go Here" could be the more lenient forum, and people wishing to be arses could arse around in there as they please.

What do other people think?


i like this idea a lot. maybe there could be just one forum where there is no moderation at all. it's billed as such from the get go and just left to the users

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jes_lawson
September 29, 2005 6:10 AM

quote:

What do other people think?

I agree with Chi, Brad, and everyone else who made a sensible point.

The animated FAQ might be worth reviving, or at least re-engineering so that people have a light hearted but sensible code of conduct to try and adhere to, so that situations like this don't occur so often.

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HCRoyall
September 29, 2005 6:40 AM

I think it should be a common courtesy thing. Yes, kids can find just about anything on the internet regardless of what we put up, but that doesn't mean we should add to the problem. I'm not saying censoring everything is the answer, just that we as members need to use more discretion. Sending someone a blind link to a buddy in IM as a joke is one thing, but posting that same link on a site where you know for a fact that there are kids that might see it is another.

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Brad
September 29, 2005 7:10 AM

quote:
What do other people think?
i like this idea a lot. maybe there could be just one forum where there is no moderation at all. it's billed as such from the get go and just left to the users

After having so many bad experiences over the years with users, no forums are just going to be "left to the users". Give up on your dream of total Stripcreator anarchy, mandingo. It's not going to happen as long as I have to clean up the mess when it gets out of control.

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biped
September 29, 2005 8:46 AM

I agree with the part about not posting blind links and similarly offensive stuff, but I disagree with the idea of policing threads to the point where silly asides, non-sequiturs, and wacky photos are eliminated. The sub-title of the "General Discussion" forum is "babbling and silliness", not "seriousness and decorum." I'm not suggesting anarchy, but carrying it too far in the other direction, in my opinion, would kill off a lot of the spontaneity and fun that exists in the forums.

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KajunFirefly
September 29, 2005 10:56 AM

By all means, non-sequiturs and silly pictures have been a part of what makes these forums fun. My original argument (which Chi nicely elaborated on) was that if I post a thread saying "Look, I just bought a new car!" and then tell you about the new car I bought, other may post pictures of their cars, or cars they used to have, then Kaenash will post "THAT CAR IS:" followed by the NIGGERIFIC! picture.

Up until that point, what has my thread had to do with persons originating from Nigeria? Nothing, nada, zip. If I see a thread called "What if nigger meant..." and I were the type of person who was offended by such terms I could avoid it easily.

If it's a picture that may be considered offensive, post a link to it with a suitable warning or at least don't be all shocked if one of the moderators do.

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mandingo
September 29, 2005 11:00 AM

quote:
Give up on your dream of total Stripcreator anarchy, mandingo.
yes, Brad, stripcreator anarchy, and not Jennifer Love Hewitt ensconsced in the base of my waterbed, is my dream. the thought of it haunts my nights

i agree 100% with everything biped said. i don't care about banning the blind linking, i worry about over-moderating to the point that you kill the zany silliness of the forums

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flipynif1
September 29, 2005 11:17 AM

i doubt the zany silliness would ever leave, even if banned

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Hari_Nezumi
September 29, 2005 3:53 PM

I think Kanaesh's "niggerific" picture is just a way he's trying to fit in around here. He saw other memebers posting random images and I guess he thought'd it'd be funny to get one of his own...and never use another...

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BigFrank105
September 29, 2005 4:57 PM

you can't beat biped's little asian boy accompanied by the hurtage of birds in space. He can try being as niggeriffic as he likes but I don't think something like that will help him fit in.

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DragonXero
September 29, 2005 10:23 PM

I think it would be a good idea to have a "warn" button next to every post, or a "warn" link that you can click when something just goes too far and when 5 or more people click it, it pops up a message to the mods or something. The number is, of course, at your discretion. It's just a basic idea model, Brad, but I think it would really help with the moderation of the threads. When enough people agree that something goes too far, you have a good consensus on it.

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HCRoyall
September 30, 2005 12:39 AM

quote:
I think it would be a good idea to have a "warn" button next to every post, or a "warn" link that you can click when something just goes too far.
I agree with this suggestion.

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biped
September 30, 2005 1:07 AM

Wouldn't something like a "warn" button have a high potential for misuse and abuse?

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HCRoyall
September 30, 2005 1:24 AM

quote:
Wouldn't something like a "warn" button have a high potential for misuse and abuse?
Just about anything has potential for abuse. If each member was limited to one "warning" per post or something, it wouldn't waste the mods' time and have them chasing wild geese because one member got a bug up their ass.

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attitudechicka
September 30, 2005 8:02 AM

That PM link works pretty much the same way as the warn button. Just PM brad with your problem and he'll see to it.
Unless you're scared to talk to brad like me. Him being of superiority and all.

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ArtemisStrong
September 30, 2005 11:57 AM

This thread is:

Terrific!

I think we have a good set of mods here, they generally have a better sense of humor than 60% of the regular users and they rarely kill a post without good cause.

I mean, some stripcreator users would never see the light of day if there was an "0ff-topic" ban.

BUT I love the idea of "no forum hijacking". Someone please help threads like "the run-on-sentence", they need your help.

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