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Inflatable_Man
February 12, 2006 11:34 PM

There's nothing I like more than seeing our Vice President trying to shoot a bird and hitting one of his old, rich buddies instead. But I found out this actually happened yesterday and they had been sitting on this news for over 24 hours before they announced it, because whoever's in charge of releasing it wanted to make sure that the victim didn't expire.

Which brings up an interesting, albeit completely hypothetically question... IF Cheney had offed the bugger, would it have been covered up? I'm sure the administration wouldn't want to consider the prospect of their VP having to face a manslaughter charge.

So... If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it... does it make a sound? And if the Veep actually killed his friend and only his Republican flunkies and yes-men were around... would we ever find out?

Yes, I know it's strictly a hypothetical, but it's an interesting scenario to ponder, considering how secretive this administration is.

(Puts on flame-retardant suit)

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cpausti
February 12, 2006 11:50 PM

I really don't know if they would. It was a contributor to the Bush/Cheney campaign, so there wouldn't be much room for conspiracy. It was an accident, they had been hunting all day (Cheney killed 70 birds himself) and he's an old dude. Covering it up would be pointless. Plus, imagine if it was leaked later, people would go crazy. Too risky, too stupid. (at least that is what I would be thinking)

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User #34714
February 12, 2006 11:57 PM

No way! Just think about it. First Cheney kills some random old guy, then he starts killing whoever the fuck he likes. Its all in the Patriot Act people. Cheney is coming to your fucking house to kill you and your children and he's just gonna say he was duck hunting. We all need to be on high alert.

IMPEACH BUSH!
PUT CARTER BACK IN OFFICE!

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 12:04 AM

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It was a contributor to the Bush/Cheney campaign, so there wouldn't be much room for conspiracy. It was an accident, they had been hunting all day (Cheney killed 70 birds himself) and he's an old dude

Now I didn't say there was a conspiracy behind the shooting. I'm sure it was an accident. Buuut... what I'm wondering is if there would be a cover-up after the fact, cuz I have no idea how the WH would do damage-control if their Vice President was brought on manslaughter charges. But if it then was uncovered... yeah, you're right it would probably raise an eyebrow or two.

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fundemented
February 13, 2006 12:06 AM

i think bobby hit the nail on the head

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Drexle
February 13, 2006 12:15 AM

Whenever I want to see an administrative official shoot a bird, I just look at Boorite's posts. I would love to see an administrative official his his old rich friend, though.

On the topic though, I really don't know if there would be a coverup or not... or even if it's really likely to happen. I'm guessing that if someone with real power wanted a person dead they wouldn't have to do the job themselves, so would it really be a likely scenario?

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 12:18 AM

I reiterate I don't think Cheney wanted this fellow dead. As far as I can tell they were great friends and it was an accident. But once the deed is done, having a VP who killed someone isn't good. I'm not very familiar with the law, so I don't know if manslaughter charges can be brought up, but even if they can't it would probably be the final nail in the Bush administration's coffin.

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 12:38 AM

Now here's a theory that's not quite outlandish... Cheney's hunting party could have provided a fall-guy. The claim could have been made that someone else in the party fired the shot, since they're all carrying the same guns. I'm sure they could find at least one loyal eager beaver willing to sacrifice himself to the mercies of the system in order to save the Vice Prez.

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Drexle
February 13, 2006 12:45 AM

Nails in a coffin can't stop a vampire... I really don't think there will be a "final nail." They do whatever they want and people let them get away with it, all while saying that they'll sacrifice anything for safety.

You're right, having a VP who is to be brought up on Manslaughter charges would be a rather bad thing in terms of international fallout, and if it were any other presidential administration it would probably lower people's confidence for a while.

That said, I think that if such a thing happened, what is more likely than a coverup where the body goes missing would be a coverup where they fully admit that the VP killed the guy... but instead of admitting it was an accident, they call it self-defense. Who would know the difference? That way he could look like a hero, someone who can spot danger a mile away and put a stop to it. Just what we need in these dangerous times, eh? I don't see why they would have any problem dragging a dead supporter's name through the mud if it means gaining political capital and dodging a political bullet all in one swoop.

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 1:05 AM

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That said, I think that if such a thing happened, what is more likely than a coverup where the body goes missing would be a coverup where they fully admit that the VP killed the guy... but instead of admitting it was an accident, they call it self-defense. Who would know the difference? That way he could look like a hero, someone who can spot danger a mile away and put a stop to it. Just what we need in these dangerous times, eh? I don't see why they would have any problem dragging a dead supporter's name through the mud if it means gaining political capital and dodging a political bullet all in one swoop.

Daaaaayaaaaamn.... Now you're thinking like Karl Rove. That would be straight up cold-blooded. And ingenious. Amazingly enough, I still don't think that would be the worst thing Cheney's ever done.

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Drexle
February 13, 2006 1:13 AM

I'm pretty sure that most people in positions of great power do very nasty things to get there and to remain in power. It's the nature of the beast.

And I'll say that this administration is pretty beastly.

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Kaenash
February 13, 2006 1:38 AM

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There's nothing I like more than seeing our Vice President trying to shoot a bird and hitting one of his old, rich buddies instead. But I found out this actually happened yesterday and they had been sitting on this news for over 24 hours before they announced it, because whoever's in charge of releasing it wanted to make sure that the victim didn't expire.

Which brings up an interesting, albeit completely hypothetically question... IF Cheney had offed the bugger, would it have been covered up? I'm sure the administration wouldn't want to consider the prospect of their VP having to face a manslaughter charge.

So... If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it... does it make a sound? And if the Veep actually killed his friend and only his Republican flunkies and yes-men were around... would we ever find out?

Yes, I know it's strictly a hypothetical, but it's an interesting scenario to ponder, considering how secretive this administration is.

(Puts on flame-retardant suit)


Cheney's war against his former business partners country, the one his company has a no bid contract to repair, costs thousands of lives, and he isn't in trouble for that.

Cheney's prison camps where the prisoners are not accounted for, and after three years they have not been entitled to even the slightest due process as either military or civillians could probably have had a few deaths and I am sure he isn't accountable for that.

So yes, I am sure he could kill a few people and no one would be notified.

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biped
February 13, 2006 1:59 AM

Oh, boo hoo.

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DragonXero
February 13, 2006 9:10 AM

Ha ha ha. Cheney wears glasses.

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Kaenash
February 13, 2006 10:16 AM

/comics/Kaenash/337658/

If Dick Cheney made Comics, my guess is not only would he not be a donor, but his comics would be two stars at best.

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 11:10 AM

Karl Rove would get 5 stars through sheer manipulation and charisma... until one day someone notices he's never actually made a comic. Kerry would have 2 stars because his comics would have too much dialogue, be too long-winded and his punchlines would be so drawn out they would lose their comedic impact. Bush would have 1 star because his comics would be chock full of grammar and spelling errors and no one would be able to read the shit. Howard Dean would have 5 stars until one day he goes batshit in the forums and goes down to 2 stars.

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User #34714
February 13, 2006 11:36 AM

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Bush would have 1 star because his comics would be chock full of grammar and spelling errors and no one would be able to read the shit.

So Bush was fuck then? He was a surprisingly popular guy.

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biped
February 13, 2006 11:59 AM

BOBBY! Go to your room.

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User #34714
February 13, 2006 12:07 PM

Yes dad

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mandingo
February 13, 2006 1:45 PM

quote:
That said, I think that if such a thing happened, what is more likely than a coverup where the body goes missing would be a coverup where they fully admit that the VP killed the guy... but instead of admitting it was an accident, they call it self-defense.
i'm thinking if they go to all the conspiracy theory trouble of getting rid of the body, you wouldn't hear about the vp killing anyone at all

i'm sure they'd consider a coverup (they're politicians. they consider lying before deciding which gender box to check) but i doubt they'd go with it. first of all, too much media attention. with tons of journalists all going after the story like columbo, it's bound to be discovered eventually. add to it the fact that it would be hard to change guns because of differences in gunpowder residue on their hands, angle of shot with height difference, and the fact that Cheney had drops of blood on his shoe from ripping off the head and gloriously holding it above him while the assemblage shouted "Josh jerky!", and i'm guessing they'd be... um... straight shooters about it all.

and if they weren't it's crazy to think they'd go with self-defense rather than a hunting accident. that's a lot of f00king coverup work, and risk of future scandal, for two things that carry about the same relatively low stigma

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LuckyGuess
February 13, 2006 1:57 PM


"It's very unamerican of you to vote me down to two stars like that. I might even raise the threat level to sunflower."

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niteowl
February 13, 2006 4:35 PM

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Howard Dean would have 5 stars until one day he goes batshit in the forums and goes down to 2 stars.
Oh my God, CHUBBY is actually Howard Dean!

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Kaenash
February 13, 2006 4:39 PM

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Karl Rove would get 5 stars through sheer manipulation and charisma... until one day someone notices he's never actually made a comic. Kerry would have 2 stars because his comics would have too much dialogue, be too long-winded and his punchlines would be so drawn out they would lose their comedic impact. Bush would have 1 star because his comics would be chock full of grammar and spelling errors and no one would be able to read the shit. Howard Dean would have 5 stars until one day he goes batshit in the forums and goes down to 2 stars.



you are way ahead of me, I had the same theory about George W Bush

/comics/Kaenash/337710/

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Spankling
February 13, 2006 10:12 PM

I'm guessing they didn't want it talked about on the Sunday AM political news so they held off until Sunday night.

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Spankling
February 13, 2006 10:13 PM

And if SNL doesn't run with this for weeks to come then they are a bunch of young republicans.

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 10:54 PM

Catch the Daily Show tonight? They ripped him a new hole. There was absolutely no holding back. Seeing as Cheney disregarded safety regulations, this might become a bigger issue than originally thought. At the very least it certainly doesn't help the administration's already piss-poor standing.

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cpausti
February 13, 2006 10:58 PM

I love Jon Stewart, and if he shat on a piece of paper I'd read it and laugh. I can't wait, only one more hour 'til it airs here.

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Inflatable_Man
February 13, 2006 11:12 PM

Here's another question...

... how long until the net is inundated with photo-cropped images of Cheney shooting various people? I bet there will be one of him at the Ford's theater, on a grassy knoll in Dallas, staking out various gas-stations in Maryland, etc...

It's a net fad waiting to happen. I give it a week before that shit pops up everywhere, and a week and a half before we get sick of it.

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Drexle
February 14, 2006 2:07 PM

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060214/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident_53"]White House Officials Decide to joke about the incident publicly.[/URL]

Hey, let me have a crack at that.

"Boy, it's a good thing Cheney was so scared to go to war that he got all those deferrals, 'cause there's no telling how many US troops he'd have "peppered." Haw!"

[URL="http://www.yahoo.com/s/240103"]But I wonder what kind of joke they'll have to make about the fact that the guy just had a heart attack from the "little peppering" he took.[/URL]

Maybe you'll get to see what happens to a VP who commits manslaughter after all, 'flate.

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Kaenash
February 14, 2006 3:20 PM

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Here's another question...

... how long until the net is inundated with photo-cropped images of Cheney shooting various people? I bet there will be one of him at the Ford's theater, on a grassy knoll in Dallas, staking out various gas-stations in Maryland, etc...

It's a net fad waiting to happen. I give it a week before that shit pops up everywhere, and a week and a half before we get sick of it.



There are already a few on www.ytmnd.com, one that has him playing a sort of Nintendo "Duck Hunt" style game.

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Drexle
February 14, 2006 4:06 PM

Jesus, this one is hysterical.

http://cheneyindestructable.ytmnd.com/

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boorite
February 14, 2006 4:57 PM

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There are already a few on www.ytmnd.com, one that has him playing a sort of Nintendo "Duck Hunt" style game.



And one where he supposedly never changes facial expressions...

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mandingo
February 14, 2006 11:38 PM

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And if SNL doesn't run with this for weeks to come then they are a bunch of young republicans.
i bet this has months of staying power. maybe even longer if Cheney runs for president in 2008, and comedians everywhere hit shooting ranges and yarn barns to get out the republican vote like they did for the Bush/Quayle ticket in 92

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Kaenash
February 15, 2006 12:05 AM

This is pure genius, thank you Drexle for pointing this out. It is better with sound though.

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HotRodDeathToll
February 15, 2006 2:59 AM

This is what will happen next time:
/comics/HotRodDeathToll/337945/

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