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skagg
November 5, 2001 9:07 AM

due to the fact that my computer is a big pile of mr gate's turd could one of you please download this track and send it to me

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skagg
November 5, 2001 12:01 PM

oh come on guys! its incredible!

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fuzzyman
November 5, 2001 2:51 PM

My god, that was horrific.

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boorite
November 5, 2001 3:00 PM

Well, there goes a shitload of brain cells I'll never get back.

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DragonXero
November 7, 2001 9:53 AM

Not to mention they are calling grindcore metal. Grind is metal, grindcore isn't.

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skagg
November 7, 2001 10:09 AM

DX for that comment you are a god

wait, no!

heek

geek of metal

doesnt grindcore stem from metal?

metal is broad and grind stems from it and i thought grindcore came from grind so therefore grindcore would come from the big family metal

wait, i think i got that wrong

ah fuck it

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DragonXero
November 7, 2001 10:25 AM

Grindcore and Grind are seperate entities, only similar in aesthetics. Grindcore and Grind are both made by the same type of people, however, grindcore peope listen primarily to hardcore punk, while grind guys listen to deth metal. They are both horribly awesome styles, and have similarities. It's really hard to tell them apart sometimes.

In a way, they both somewhat stem from metal, but technically, Grindcore isn't metal, as it has a punk musical basis.

Mallcore (Slipknot, SoaD and others like that) is a really watered down version of Hardcore, and is partially related, musically, to grindcore. Deathmetal (Death, Morbid Angel) is similar to Grind.

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skagg
November 7, 2001 10:29 AM

so as far as im concerned they are still the same thing then?

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boorite
November 7, 2001 10:49 AM

Then there's MarineCore, which involves call-and-response chants or "cadences" backed by dive-bomb guitar leads and machine-gun drumming.

I don't know but it's been said
Iron Man is live or dead
We joined up to kick some asses
Just like witches at black masses

Hut, two, three, four
(scream)

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itsclark
November 7, 2001 2:13 PM

42119

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lara7
November 7, 2001 8:21 PM

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Then there's MarineCore, which involves call-and-response chants or "cadences" backed by dive-bomb guitar leads and machine-gun drumming.

I don't know but it's been said
Iron Man is live or dead
We joined up to kick some asses
Just like witches at black masses

Hut, two, three, four
(scream)



you are my new hero.

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Brad
November 7, 2001 11:31 PM

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Grindcore and Grind are seperate entities, only similar in aesthetics. Grindcore and Grind are both made by the same type of people, however, grindcore peope listen primarily to hardcore punk, while grind guys listen to deth metal. They are both horribly awesome styles, and have similarities. It's really hard to tell them apart sometimes.

In a way, they both somewhat stem from metal, but technically, Grindcore isn't metal, as it has a punk musical basis.

Mallcore (Slipknot, SoaD and others like that) is a really watered down version of Hardcore, and is partially related, musically, to grindcore. Deathmetal (Death, Morbid Angel) is similar to Grind.


You spelled "separate" wrong.

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Drexle
November 7, 2001 11:41 PM

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Grindcore and Grind are seperate entities, only similar in aesthetics. Grindcore and Grind are both made by the same type of people, however, grindcore peope listen primarily to hardcore punk, while grind guys listen to deth metal. They are both horribly awesome styles, and have similarities. It's really hard to tell them apart sometimes.

In a way, they both somewhat stem from metal, but technically, Grindcore isn't metal, as it has a punk musical basis.

Mallcore (Slipknot, SoaD and others like that) is a really watered down version of Hardcore, and is partially related, musically, to grindcore. Deathmetal (Death, Morbid Angel) is similar to Grind.



I must be one of the few underground metal fans who finds this incessant sub-sub-sub-sub-genre stuff to be more than just a little... umm... anal.

Just wait boorite, I bet in five years that joke will come to reality. :/

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Drexle
November 8, 2001 12:10 AM

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oh come on guys! its incredible!

That was beyond fucking funny. If I could play any instruments worth a crap, one of my friends actually has a decent growl... we've joked about playing doom/death with lyrics sung as the cookie monster.

Rrrrraaaaaaarrrrrgh!
Coooooooookiiieeeee!!!!
(Sorrowful Moaning: Chocolate... chip...)
Dreeeenched!
In Miiiiilllk!!!
(Sorrowful Moaning: Imminent... demise...)
Nuuummmm! Nuuuummm! Nuuuummmm!
Raaaaaaaarrrrrrgh!!!!!!

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skagg
November 9, 2001 9:32 AM

they have more, just been approved today

gods a nice bloke is a fan favourite

check out are we recording

theres so much more waiting for approval but sadly i dont think it will get it at all

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DragonXero
November 9, 2001 1:44 PM

Yes, I am elitist, why is that so bad?

I like both grind and grindcore. I like what hardcore I've heard. I don't like mallcore, it's boring to me. People bitch about me putting a label difference on metal and mallcore, but would you call Snoop Doggy Dog classical, or Creedence Clearwater rap? Labels are not there to limit your listening, they're there to let you listen to what you like, and not listen to what you don't. Maybe I am a bit anal about my music, but someone has to be at this point. The kind of music I like is horribly overshadowed by the more commercial style. Surely, I don't think that style is bad just because it's popular, but I don't like the majority of commerical/mainstream music.

One of the main reasons I fight so hard to keep the styles seperate is because I work so hard locally to keep the underground metal scene going. We put on mallcore shows to keep our venue happy, but we also fully support bands that dare to be themselves. IF you like listening to Slipknot, fine. I'd rather listen to Slipknot and Linkin Park than Britney Spears, but that's really not saying much.

By the way, Drexle. IT's not metal, but it's funny, check out Cookie. I dunno who it's by, but it's a parody of Limp Bizkit's "nookie".

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DexX
November 9, 2001 7:36 PM

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People bitch about me putting a label difference on metal and mallcore, but would you call Snoop Doggy Dog classical, or Creedence Clearwater rap?
Your analogy doesn't stand up - nobody, even an absolute musical illiterate, could mistake bluegrass rock with rap, or hip hop for classical. On the other hand, dividing metal up into such a ridiculous number of subgroups sounds to me like someone trying to make themselves sound more important than they really are. I mean, once you count soft, heavy, thrash, speed, and death metal, you have accounted for all of it. Anything further is just superfluous subdivision. All in my humble opinion, of course.

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Drexle
November 9, 2001 7:41 PM

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People bitch about me putting a label difference on metal and mallcore, but would you call Snoop Doggy Dog classical, or Creedence Clearwater rap?
Your analogy doesn't stand up - nobody, even an absolute musical illiterate, could mistake bluegrass rock with rap, or hip hop for classical. On the other hand, dividing metal up into such a ridiculous number of subgroups sounds to me like someone trying to make themselves sound more important than they really are. I mean, once you count soft, heavy, thrash, speed, and death metal, you have accounted for all of it. Anything further is just superfluous subdivision. All in my humble opinion, of course.
You forgot Doom... The rest are all faster types.

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Drexle
November 9, 2001 8:28 PM

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By the way, Drexle. IT's not metal, but it's funny, check out Cookie. I dunno who it's by, but it's a parody of Limp Bizkit's "nookie".

Could I have a link? A URL? Can I have a cookie?

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JrnymnNate
November 10, 2001 2:07 PM

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People bitch about me putting a label difference on metal and mallcore, but would you call Snoop Doggy Dog classical, or Creedence Clearwater rap?
Your analogy doesn't stand up - nobody, even an absolute musical illiterate, could mistake bluegrass rock with rap, or hip hop for classical. On the other hand, dividing metal up into such a ridiculous number of subgroups sounds to me like someone trying to make themselves sound more important than they really are. I mean, once you count soft, heavy, thrash, speed, and death metal, you have accounted for all of it. Anything further is just superfluous subdivision. All in my humble opinion, of course.
You forgot Doom... The rest are all faster types.

I think its funny how i read once in a book, "After Fusion, there seemed to be nothing that Jazz couldn't call it's own".

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DragonXero
November 10, 2001 2:54 PM

Thash and speed are similar, very hard to distinguish, and in some people's opinions, interchangable. Grind and Death are very different. Death is often more technical with different sounding vocals. Black metal, gothic metal, power metal, neo-classical, classic metal (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest), Doom, Gore and probably a couple I've forgotten. They are all easy to tell apart if you actually listen instead of just calling it all crap because it's hard music. I like all real metal, so the genres are just a way of describing something. Saying that you like metal is like saying you like colors. Being descriptive is part of what I like about having a spoken language!

So, yes, I think distinctions are nice to have. They let you ask for exactly the type of music you want to hear. I wouldn't want to go into a music shop looking for a band like Blind Guardian, ask for metal, and get Cannibal Corpse. It would be frustrating trying to listen to what you like. Distinction is a good thing.

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DexX
November 11, 2001 8:56 AM

I never called any of it crap - I like quite a lot of metal. However, if someone started applying this kind of pedantic differentiation to top-40 mainstream radio pop music, you would probably think they were insane, or at the very least wasting their time.

Am I wrong?

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JrnymnNate
November 11, 2001 10:45 AM

Not by any means at all as far as I'm concerned.

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DragonXero
November 14, 2001 11:02 PM

Actually, I do that myself. I don't listen to pop any more than it's forced down my throat, but I do have casual observations, and I could easily categorize the different styles of pop. I'm sorry, but my mind has a natural logical lean toward categorization. I like to find more of what I like, and avoid what I dislike. Is that really so wrong to everyone? To me, I hear a HUGE difference between different styles of metal, let alone radio rock and metal. Yes, I am pedantic to a 'T', at least when it comes to music. I like what I like, and I don't like what I don't like.

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DexX
November 15, 2001 8:29 AM

Well, since my musical taste is extremely broad, I don't have that problem.

Rock tends to be my favourite style, but I like pretty much everything except the heaviest of metal, the most braindead of pop, the most repetitive of dance, and pretty much all rap/hip-hop/whatever.

I happened to put on a J. S. Bach MP3 today and was almost hypnotised by it... I am not listening to anywhere near enough barique/classical/romantic these days.

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Drexle
November 15, 2001 10:06 AM

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I am not listening to anywhere near enough barique/classical/romantic these days.

I've gotta agree with that sentiment. I'm finding that I'm becoming kind of fond of baroque lately... Bach in particular.

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descolada99
November 15, 2001 1:06 PM

Bach in the day I used to listen to more classical, but then my CD player baroque.....

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andydougan
November 15, 2001 1:17 PM

38801

If anyone's getting tired of seeing this strip, just say.

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DexX
November 15, 2001 8:30 PM

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I've gotta agree with that sentiment. I'm finding that I'm becoming kind of fond of baroque lately... Bach in particular.
J. S. Bach is a favourite, but Baroque-wise I also love the works of Vivaldi and Handel. Classical-wise, I never much liked Mozart's or Beethoven's big orchestral things. Just recently though I have heard a bit of Beethoven's smaller work for string quartets and such - now that is good stuff. Oh, and as far as Romantic goes, I am hard-pressed to think of any composer I don't love to bits, though Tchaikovsky and Debussy are my favourites.

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Spankling
November 15, 2001 8:59 PM

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I've gotta agree with that sentiment. I'm finding that I'm becoming kind of fond of baroque lately... Bach in particular.
J. S. Bach is a favourite, but Baroque-wise I also love the works of Vivaldi and Handel. Classical-wise, I never much liked Mozart's or Beethoven's big orchestral things. Just recently though I have heard a bit of Beethoven's smaller work for string quartets and such - now that is good stuff. Oh, and as far as Romantic goes, I am hard-pressed to think of any composer I don't love to bits, though Tchaikovsky and Debussy are my favourites.
That Spring carp Vivaldi kicked out rocks my ass!

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