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Brad
November 19, 2002 5:13 AM

Time permitting, I'm considering giving Stripcreator a once-over rewrite/redesign kind of thing. There's a large list of small, back-end things that I'd like to tidy up, fix or add to hopefully make my life as webmaster a little easier.

If you have any bug reports or suggestions, now would be an excellent time to make them. You can email me or post them in this thread or in the Bugs & Suggestions forum if you'd like.

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dcomposed
November 19, 2002 6:23 AM

You can't title a strip <>, it changes to "Untitled". Not that it really matters.

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evil_d
November 19, 2002 7:23 AM

I'd still like to see if implementing this change fixes make.php for Opera, Mozilla or Netscape users.

And I wish the search page did exact matching when searching favorites, because right now the search results for my name include people who don't have me on their favorites, but do have Big Evil Dan or Evil_Diet_Coke.

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xACOM
November 19, 2002 8:31 AM

Some suggestions:

*) Ability to edit comics already posted.
*) Ability to include b, i, or font color="xxx" tags
*) Ability to insert a comic in the chain in something other than the order they were posted.

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Scyess
November 19, 2002 9:35 AM

quote:
Some suggestions:

*) Ability to edit comics already posted.
*) Ability to include b, i, or font color="xxx" tags
*) Ability to insert a comic in the chain in something other than the order they were posted.


I'd donate more for any or all of these features. (Hint hint) Well... except the tags in the comics. That'd be cool, but maybe not worth $$. 8)

I was also thinking it would be neat to have a second narration bar at the BOTTOM of the comic, in addition to the one at the top. That way you could narrate before and after characters' actions.

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User #16352
November 19, 2002 9:46 AM

That would be neat-o.

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Brad
November 19, 2002 10:58 AM

quote:
*) Ability to edit comics already posted.
*) Ability to include b, i, or font color="xxx" tags
*) Ability to insert a comic in the chain in something other than the order they were posted.

Good suggestions, and ones I've been thinking about for a while.

#1: Editing is doable. Various people (including myself) have expressed concerns about comics being editable.

#2: I don't see any harm in this one, but there's a small problem. The comic dialog text is already bold and can't get any bolder. I can un-bold the text, but I showed a version like that to some regulars on IRC a few weeks ago and they all went crazy and tried to bite me.

#3: This is one I've been thinking about for a while and still haven't come up with a simple, effective way to implement it. If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate hearing them.

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Brad
November 19, 2002 11:05 AM

quote:
I'd still like to see if implementing this change fixes make.php for Opera, Mozilla or Netscape users.
I believe I tried this, but there was another error deeper into the script that also broke.

Then I did some further investigation into it and Netscape 6 just doesn't support the DHTML trickery I'm using in the make engine, so I gave up. I'm not sure about the other browsers.

quote:
And I wish the search page did exact matching when searching favorites, because right now the search results for my name include people who don't have me on their favorites, but do have Big Evil Dan or Evil_Diet_Coke.
Yeah, there's a weird issue with this that will take some sorting out. It has to do with the goofy way I store the favorite lists.

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evil_d
November 19, 2002 11:26 AM

quote:
I believe I tried this, but there was another error deeper into the script that also broke.

Then I did some further investigation into it and Netscape 6 just doesn't support the DHTML trickery I'm using in the make engine, so I gave up. I'm not sure about the other browsers.


Curses. Well, thanks for trying.

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Kaddar
November 19, 2002 12:19 PM

Aside from my obvious suggestion of uploading my art :D? hmmn..

I already showed you my idea for footnote tables with 50x50 images on the left side
http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic.jpg
http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic3.jpg

The text bubbles are not the same thickness as the tables they point too. Maybe this should be adjusted

http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic4.jpg

Here is my idea for repositioning comics in a simple way:

Select a comic in a pull down list
Select another comic in a pull down list
Comic 1 goes in position below comic selected

An alternative way to do this is to have a comic checklist:

Click all comics you want to move in a checklist.

select a comic in a pull down menu to put them after

Multiple comics are moved

It isn't exactly catagories, but it's very simple and easy to use.

I have another idea, I'll post it later

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Kaddar
November 19, 2002 2:01 PM

Okay, here is my other suggestion:

Search images: Search to see comics with specific backgounds, characters, etc... This could also be fun because you could use it's image output to find the number of comics using, jesus, for example.

Serch percentages: Automatically divide total comics by number of results found to output what percent of comics have said stat. For example, 2292 comics have dog about 0.02222% of the comics have dog in it.

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Brad
November 19, 2002 3:38 PM

quote:
I already showed you my idea for footnote tables with 50x50 images on the left side
http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic.jpg
http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic3.jpg
What do other people think of this idea? I'm kind of unclear on what you'd actually use this for. Also, it seems like it would complicate

quote:
The text bubbles are not the same thickness as the tables they point too. Maybe this should be adjusted

http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic4.jpg


This has been an issue I've been wanting to fix for a long time. I figured out a way to make the borders on the text balloons one pixel, but I showed it to some people and they didn't like it and tried to kill me. Since the very beginning I've wanted to put rounded corners in. I think I might know how to do this now, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

quote:
Here is my idea for repositioning comics in a simple way:
These are cool ideas, I'll have to think about them a bit.

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Brad
November 19, 2002 3:41 PM

quote:
Okay, here is my other suggestion:

Search images: Search to see comics with specific backgounds, characters, etc... This could also be fun because you could use it's image output to find the number of comics using, jesus, for example.

Serch percentages: Automatically divide total comics by number of results found to output what percent of comics have said stat. For example, 2292 comics have dog about 0.02222% of the comics have dog in it.


The first one would be a little rough because of the way I'm storing the comic information. I didn't really anticipate anyone would ever want to search the database or I would have laid it out a bit differently. It can probably still be done, I'll just have to think about it some more.

The percentage thing should be easy enough.

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Drexle
November 19, 2002 4:44 PM

How about the ability to edit our posts?

Oh... and can you have stripcreator make asiangirl1 give me a blowjob whenever I donate $5?

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KajunFirefly
November 19, 2002 4:56 PM

Editing posts would not only stop us from slagging each other's spelllign mistakees, but people would just take the piss out of it so that you end up looking like a moron in a fight, it's better that you can read what people meant the first time they said something, before they backtracked out of the argument.

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Bazilla
November 19, 2002 10:54 PM

In the comic competitions thread, would it be possible for the Comic Cup threads to be bumped up when replied to, while the normal Comic Competitions stay in order?

Because sometimes Comic Cups are very long, but unlike the present Tag Team Cup, well envolved in and then people have to scroll down to get to the thread, and no-one can be bothered, and people stop voting etc.

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not_Scyess
November 20, 2002 12:03 AM

I like almost all these ideas (except for editing posts -- that would turn the message boards into an unintelligible jumble of random statments. Imagine if you started reading a thread 5 days after it was created, when everyone had already edited the hell out of all their posts? The meanings would be totally opaque.

BUT aside from that, I like almost all the ideas here. But there are some ideas which are definitely better than others, and they can really be summed up by xACOM:

quote:
*) Ability to edit comics already posted.
*) Ability to include b, i, or font color="xxx" tags
*) Ability to insert a comic in the chain in something other than the order they were posted.

I think these are really the coolest things that can be done to the site. (I also like the comic-bottom narration bar idea.)

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evil_d
November 20, 2002 7:46 AM

quote:
quote:
I already showed you my idea for footnote tables with 50x50 images on the left side
http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic.jpg
http://kaddar.netfirms.com/examplecomic3.jpg
What do other people think of this idea?
I guess I don't object to it on principle, but I don't think it would let you do a whole lot that you can't already do with the narration boxes.

I'll add my vote for not allowing post editing. I also think comic editing is a bad idea for the same reasons and some more besides.

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MaKK_BeNN
November 20, 2002 8:04 AM

I have noticed that if I accidently get bumped off the page while I am trying to save a comic (clicking something wrong in druken stupor or the occasional web time-out) the comic information is lost if you back-page. I don't know if this has been brought up before and then dismissed as impossible to fix.

In addition the the <> characters not working it seems like I've encountered one or two others that don't show up, but you can't find out until the comic is saved.

I would also like a giant, rotating, constantly updated 3-d topographical translation of comic creation by volume over time, that was present on any page and could be dragged around and / or docked to the web page. Needs to be sound-interactive.

It would also be cool if you could customize your stripper's account front page a little bit, maybe with a selectible bio picture (instead of individually uploadable to cut down on taking up space) or custom background colors or um a neat-o background of cute puppies and midi music playing and blinking text and and and

Sorry I need to stop now I am getting too excited

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Devin
November 20, 2002 9:34 AM

I don't suppose you'll consider that titles thing I suggested a while back?

And is there any chance you can add a search feature for the message board?

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lara7
November 21, 2002 1:14 AM

quote:
In the comic competitions thread, would it be possible for the Comic Cup threads to be bumped up when replied to, while the normal Comic Competitions stay in order?


or a diff. forum for "special" competitions would also solve that problem.

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Brad
November 21, 2002 9:56 AM

It's no problem to add a new forum. Let me know what you want it called and what stuff you want moved into it and I'll do it.

I have a new version of the comic viewer online. I posted details about it here:

http://www.stripcreator.com/forums/showthread.php?postnum=73419&forum=10

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User #16352
November 21, 2002 10:14 AM

No.

NO!

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Devin
November 21, 2002 11:53 AM

Actually, I have to admit, the original word balloon style DOES seem more professional looking.

But since you have the new style online, you should keep it and make an option to choose between the two styles.

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Bazilla
November 21, 2002 10:57 PM

Although I quite like the look of un-bolded text, it doesn't look right with TOBOR, perhaps you could get it so only TOBOR talks in bold?

:o)

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Brad
November 22, 2002 6:14 AM

quote:
Although I quite like the look of un-bolded text, it doesn't look right with TOBOR, perhaps you could get it so only TOBOR talks in bold?

:o)


If I changed the text around, you would be able to add bolding yourself.

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Einhander
November 23, 2002 12:53 AM

Brad--

Lately, whenever I try to log out of the site, it's still coming up that I'm still logged in. Any insights?

--Einhander

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jools
November 23, 2002 9:32 AM

I had that problem. Try deleting the SC cookie, then you will automatically appear as logged off.

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User #16352
November 23, 2002 1:32 PM

Mmmmm, cookie.

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Kaddar
November 24, 2002 9:52 AM

Hey brad, I thought of a great idea for the site, and I talked to some people that said you had been considering it. Add a donation bar:

http://www.adventurers-comic.com/

to your site, like adventurers comics, and if you get enough donations, you add new art (or other features) to the server. That way, all your expenses for bandwidth are covered before you upload the art, and you can get compensation for the time it took you to add some features..


I made a bunch of progressively more finished versions of a mini-comic. If you want to use it to do this, instead of a bar, then tell me, and I'll send you the link to all of them. It could say "Finish this comic and get new art! Donate $500!"

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bonwag
November 24, 2002 6:03 PM

Two nice-to-haves:

* Rating/voting system (a-la Red Meat Construction Set: it's very clever)
* (possibly related to the previous point) Favorite strip option (rather than favorite author)

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jools
November 26, 2002 1:33 PM

Stud.

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DragonXero
November 27, 2002 8:13 AM

I agree with the voting! I miss voting. :(

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Devin
November 27, 2002 9:45 AM

Agreed. I need another way to vent my frustration against newbies. :-P

Anyway, I've been meaning to mention this: I'm worried about those cookies being left on our computers to keep us logged in. I've been using the school computers quite a bit and sometimes I forget to log off, leaving my username open to misuse. Is there a way to redesign the system so that cookies aren't stored on the computers? Also, is it unsafe (security-wise) to store username and password on the computer (which is what I think these cookies are doing)?

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Brad
November 27, 2002 10:00 AM

quote:
Anyway, I've been meaning to mention this: I'm worried about those cookies being left on our computers to keep us logged in. I've been using the school computers quite a bit and sometimes I forget to log off, leaving my username open to misuse. Is there a way to redesign the system so that cookies aren't stored on the computers? Also, is it unsafe (security-wise) to store username and password on the computer (which is what I think these cookies are doing)?
Well, the best I could do is turn off automatic logging in when you make a comic or save a message in the forums. Though the amount of abuse people could really do to your account is probably minimal.

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KajunFirefly
November 27, 2002 1:58 PM

quote:
Though the amount of abuse people could really do to your account is probably minimal.

Try telling that to Bazilla, someone filled his account with shit ages ago, and is still doing it.

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DragonXero
November 27, 2002 7:33 PM

Sorry about that.

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fuzzyman
November 27, 2002 8:02 PM

My wish is that the forums be searchable.

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jools
November 28, 2002 8:53 AM

Yes.

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Kaddar
November 28, 2002 8:56 PM

Cloning images only would be a nice feature.
105174

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MrTurkeyBoy
November 28, 2002 9:59 PM

im a newbie so this may be stupid but...

It'd be nifty to be able to have a way to rate comics and also comment on them...like each comic having its own guest book for feedback and a rating system...sorta like what newgrounds has for portal entries...and a list for the best rated comics of the week and or overall/ever...

yeah..thats almost exactly what www.newgrounds.com uses for portal entries...it just works so well....

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MrTurkeyBoy
November 28, 2002 10:01 PM

also...in the forms have a feature that shows who was the last person to post in a thread...like what www.worldwidepunks.com has for their forums...also that site has a fairly simple instant messaging service...

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DragonXero
November 29, 2002 2:08 AM

One problem with setting up a comment feature is that it would take up a LOT of space.

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andydougan
November 29, 2002 10:32 PM

I support the idea of image-only cloning. I'm sure we've all experienced the distress of typing the first panel's text before cloning, which leads to having to delete it in the subsequent panels. And I wouldn't think people need text cloning much, anyway.

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akirajim
December 1, 2002 5:19 PM

I love Kaddar's ideas for subtitles and the comic donation thing.

And I want a blowjob from Asian Girl #2 for my inut.

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JrnymnNate
December 1, 2002 5:28 PM

Copying the first panel and then deleting text from the next 2 is a pain in the rear. I support Image only cloning.

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DopeJCYouthMinister
December 1, 2002 6:18 PM

I'm all up for being able to delete comics. Because of my lack of typing skills, I've submitted loads of unfinished comics cuz I accidentally hit the 'enter' key. Makes me look like a damn fool, it does. I'd like to get rid 'o them.

-Dope JC Youth Ministries Inc.

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BigEvilDan
December 1, 2002 6:59 PM

quote:
I'm all up for being able to delete comics. Because of my lack of typing skills, I've submitted loads of unfinished comics cuz I accidentally hit the 'enter' key. Makes me look like a damn fool, it does. I'd like to get rid 'o them.

That problem is easy to avoid, actually. Don't enter the title of the strip until you've finished writing it. That way, if you hit enter by mistake, it will warn you to enter a title instead of submitting the comic.

Also, deleting is available for donors. If you really want to get rid of those comics (or just want to help keep the site up), just send Brad some money.

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DexX
December 1, 2002 7:57 PM

Haven't any of you people heard of triple-clicking? Single click places the cursor, double click selects a word, and in some interfaces (including SC.com) a triple-click selects the whole text field.

I think that "click-click-click-Delete, click-click-click-Delete, click-click-click-Delete, click-click-click-Delete" would take considerably less time than programming an image-only panel cloning. It takes me about four or five seconds.

Other useful keyboard shortcuts you guys may find helpful are the old faithful Ctrl+C, Ctrl+X, and Ctrl+V, copy, cut, and paste. If you get to the third panel and realise that you've fucked up the comic timing, so your speech balloons need rearranging, you can triple-click to select a whole balloon, Ctrl+X to cut the text out of the balloon, and Ctrl+V to paste that text into a different balloon. Keep one balloon empty and you can do a Towers of Hanoi thing, shuffling the speech balloons about without having to retype another word.

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andydougan
December 1, 2002 9:46 PM

You're probably right. If it wouldn't be a lot of trouble to remove, I still think text-cloning is more of a hindrance than a help, but it's not really "that big of a deal", as they say in the States.

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