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bunnerabb
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Amen and Hallelujah.

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11-24-03 8:21am (new)
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JrnymnNate
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I think this is why a great deal of good music disapeared. If you watch the History of Rock and Roll, you see artists talking about how when MTV came in it was a new medium and instead of focusing on the imagry of their music they'd try to intigrate the song with the video. They said something like "before we'd have to do all this in your head but now we can just make the video" IMHO this made musicians and listeners pretty lazy.

11-24-03 9:50am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
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On the other hand, you had early pioneers pushing the boundaries of the music video as an artform, people like Devo, Godley & Creme etc.

In fact, you could argue that MTV helped some artists get exposure they otherwise might not have had, thanks to clever videos. Herbie Hancock the jazz musician had a massive hit with "Rockit" thanks to a clever video. Duran Duran would never have been anywhere near as massive as they were if it hadn't been for their videos. Same with Michael Jackson.

MTV is hardly some music-killing bogeyman. Last time I looked, there was still plenty of good music out there.

11-24-03 10:37am (new)
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bunnerabb
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Yeah, but as Mtv evolved (there's an oxymoron), all the sudden, you "simply HAD to have a VIDEO, dahling", and other idiotic marketing 102 constructs. Mtv did as much to help pretty boy artists as it did to harm plain, old Rock and Roll - easily - but so what?

It also, along with the 18 to 21 drinking age restructuring in the US, helped to break the circle of "Kid comes of age, kid can go see live bands at concert clubs, kid can order 3.2 beer, kid is exposed to rich history of live rock performance".

I think Mtv was a reasonably good idea that, like all profitable media ventures, got whored out as fast as they could slap the lipstick and "fuck-me-baby", strapless pumps on it.

I don't want Rock and Roll in some marketing manager's pocket or some cocaine-addicted director's HandyCam. Let alone in a fucking museum.

Of course there's still a lot of good music out there. How much of sees the light of day without doing the EmpTyVee fandango or sucking off half the executive staff of Clear Channel®?

I'm just very pissed off at media octopi these days, don't mind me.

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11-24-03 11:44am (new)
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bunnerabb
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I was fucking there for most of it!

*creak*

: )

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11-24-03 11:47am (new)
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Ewwwww
Dickmouth.

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Well, yeah, I agree. But unfortunately,
"Before they see the light, they must DIE!!"


d.....dad?

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11-24-03 12:57pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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They can still shove their 120 dB evilness up their skinny asses.

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11-24-03 1:07pm (new)
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joshw
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You liar.
They play the worst music.
Ever.

ONE time I saw "Hunted by a Freak" on The Wedge.

AND THAT WAS IT.
THE ONLY GOOD SONG THEY'VE EVER PLAYED.

Muchmusic is dominated by rap and hip hop.
It's a crap channel.

There is no good music channel.

And why is Nirvana #1? They weren't a very good band. They didn't revolutionize anything. They wouldn't be nearly as famous if Kurt had decided not to put some metal through his head.

What a stupid idea.

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11-25-03 1:14am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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And why is Nirvana #1? They weren't a very good band. They didn't revolutionize anything. They wouldn't be nearly as famous if Kurt had decided not to put some metal through his head.

What a stupid idea.


Because the coffee-swilling Seattlites decided he was God, put him on a pedistal, worshipped his simple, repetitive, depressive music, and made a bigger deal out of it than should have been made.

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11-25-03 2:17am (new)
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JrnymnNate
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Nirvana is still great though

mean old mallcore freak :p

11-25-03 8:08am (new)
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DragonXero
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Nirvana is still great though

mean old mallcore freak :p


If you like grunge, then yes, Nirvana was a good grunge band. As was AIC, Pearl Jam, and, uh, yeah. The other bands that came outta seattle with three-chord songs and esoteric lyrics that didn't really mean anything, but sounded deep nonetheless.

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11-25-03 9:46pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
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Screaming Trees, Tad, Green River, Temple of the Dog, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, The Melvins, Veruca Salt...

11-25-03 10:23pm (new)
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DragonXero
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Yeah, exactly...

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11-25-03 10:40pm (new)
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DestroyAllTacos
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MTV isn't a channel about music at all anymore. It's a channel about MTV.

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11-28-03 2:19pm (new)
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StonedGoat
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MTV is my main source of new music.

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11-28-03 7:50pm (new)
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Ewwwww
Dickmouth.

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Wow...You like alot of shitty music.

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11-28-03 7:56pm (new)
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dcomposed
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I am laughing so hard right now. AT YOU.

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11-28-03 7:57pm (new)
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DragonXero
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I am laughing so hard right now. AT YOU.


Hey! I was going to say that!

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11-28-03 9:22pm (new)
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Rabid_Weasle
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Lets all laugh at the shitty music boy.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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11-28-03 11:33pm (new)
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StonedGoat
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I learn new bands from TRL. Like Michelle Branch. whoaids.

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11-29-03 12:26pm (new)
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Ewwwww
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Hahhahaahahahahahahah!

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"No obscene images." I guess I'll just have to settle for saying cocksucker a lot.

11-29-03 1:59pm (new)
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MikeyG
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Yeah, but as Mtv evolved (there's an oxymoron), all the sudden, you "simply HAD to have a VIDEO, dahling", and other idiotic marketing 102 constructs. Mtv did as much to help pretty boy artists as it did to harm plain, old Rock and Roll - easily - but so what?

It also, along with the 18 to 21 drinking age restructuring in the US, helped to break the circle of "Kid comes of age, kid can go see live bands at concert clubs, kid can order 3.2 beer, kid is exposed to rich history of live rock performance".

I think Mtv was a reasonably good idea that, like all profitable media ventures, got whored out as fast as they could slap the lipstick and "fuck-me-baby", strapless pumps on it.

I don't want Rock and Roll in some marketing manager's pocket or some cocaine-addicted director's HandyCam. Let alone in a fucking museum.

Of course there's still a lot of good music out there. How much of sees the light of day without doing the EmpTyVee fandango or sucking off half the executive staff of Clear Channel®?

I'm just very pissed off at media octopi these days, don't mind me.


I think I'm in love.

No, but seriously, bunnerabb, did you see the Bob Smigel cartoon banned from NBC? Octopi is an apt description. Also, if you haven't already, check out some material by Bill Hicks. He was THE rock 'n roll comedian, and the only voice of reason in a fucked-up era.

Onto the Seattle thing... I loved Nirvana, waaaay before he blew his brains out everywhere, and so did a lot of other people. Some of his lyrics were great and deep, some were nonsensical and unnecessary, and you can trash the three-cord sound, but they did some pretty creative shit with those three cords, and Cobain had an enthralling voice. Some people found it annoying, shrill, and grating, but I loved its scratchy quality. I loved Pearl Jam before they made Vitology or whatever the name of their piddling, treacly third album was called. I STILL love Alice in Chains. If it was not for AIC, I never would have gotten introduced to NIN, and if it wasn't for NIN I would not have found Depeche Mode. If it wasn't for Nirvana, I never would have found Black Sabbath, and if it wasn't for them I would never have found Zeppelin, or Hendrix, or Blind Faith. Nirvana did something a lot of other musicians couldn't, and that was reach the disenfranchised youth in great numbers. A lot of people had no fucking clue what Cobain was talking about, but those riffs were fucking hypnotic. Nirvana may have accidentally graduated to pop music, but there were better albums than Nevermind, and they truly were a great, great band. They were a huge part of what defines my generation. There are a shitload of good rock bands that are now no more, and the only one really worth listening to these days, which is TOOL, uses that music video medium as it should be used. AS AN ART FORM. A supplement to the song. All these guys like Cobain, Scott Weiland, and others DID make good music. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of them can't do it without the aid of heroine.

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11-29-03 10:36pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
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I liked In Utero :( I didn't think it was pop

then again bleach was cool too

11-30-03 12:05am (new)
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areallystupidguy
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there's other videos?!!?

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11-30-03 3:57pm (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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there's other videos?!!?


This is hard to believe.

12-01-03 5:47am (new)
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