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Brad
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I would just like say that Requiem for a Dream was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. When people talk about liking it, I make loud puking noises.

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4-24-04 11:42am (new)
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This, and nine more reasons why Brad ultimately kicks ass, tonight at 7.

4-24-04 11:44am (new)
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FERN DESTROYER

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Agh! I forgot totally about Once Upon a Time in America! I substitute that for Ali.

4-24-04 12:38pm (new)
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MikeyG
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RUSHMORE? Are you serious? That movie was so pretentious and pseudointellectual. I loved Bill Murray, but how do you not sit there and feel uncomfortable the entire time? All the awkwardness? It stank of 'art school freshman film'. Blah.

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4-24-04 7:04pm (new)
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I'd probably sub that out for Ghost World.

However, I think Rushmore's a great movie. I felt like nails were driving in to my nails every second I was watching Eternal Sunshine. Or maybe that's just because The Passion was playing next door.

I mean, I was beyond dissapointed with this crap. If I had read at least one negative review, I probably would have liked it a bit more. But everything is four star! Four stars? Sure, it's better than, say, Scooby Doo 2, but I would not say it's the best movie out right now at all. I would rather see the stupid Jesus movie than this one.

The films biggest flaw, which I forgot to adress before, was that it tries to do too many weird things at once. Even David Lynch does his movies tastefully; plots don't overlap one another, and they are mostly followable. Eternal Sunshine is like, "Let's be a music video/Kaufman script/romance/crap and make it WORK!" The problem? It doesn't WORK, in fact, it doesn't even hold together for more than fifteen minutes.

4-24-04 7:29pm (new)
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TheGovernor
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Gondry is pretty damn good, although in my opinion it's hard to fuck up a Charlie Kaufman script.

Man, I can't get that movie out of my head. It was beautiful.


I watched Adaption the other day, what a fantastic flick and another wonderful Charlie Kaufman script, bizarrly about the great man himself, but spun in a wonderfully odd mix of fantasy/reality, I highly recommend it. Hell Even Nicky Cage is good in it.

As for Eternal Sunshine, for it to be a financial success it would have needed a bit more pleb-savvy name, not to sound elitist, but your average joe popcorn-muncher usually wont even give films like this a second glance if its got words longer than six letters in the title.

As for Carrey, I think more thoughtful, intelligent films suit him better than comedies. The Truman Show is certainly one of my favourite flicks of all time;

"In case I dont see ya, Good afternoon, Good evening and Goodnight!"

4-25-04 4:00pm (new)
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habnem
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wow. so your inability to listen to lines of dialogue in context (that line came while they were erasing jim carrey's memory, the "doing" in question) is somehow now the screenwriter's fault? this reminds me of a friend who disliked donnie darko because she didn't see the beginning, wherein frank tells donnie the world is going to end, and therefore didn't understand what the fuss was about for the rest of the movie.

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4-25-04 8:08pm (new)
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Look, the main reason I hate this movie is because I read nothing but positive reviews beforehand. Everything was, "masterpiece," "great romance," and "mervelous." Yet, all I saw was, "drivel," "confusion," and "music video." I've yet to be so thouroughly disappointed by a movie. My other main gripe is this: why the heck did they even start dating in the first place? What the hell did Pantomime see in Jorech that made her want to date him? I mean, he's a schmuck! And she's not much better! She's like madonna material girlism + titanic + plain mean. Add all this, plus headache-inducing camera, a sappy message that's obvious before you even see the movie, and boring characters. This movie utterly blows, and I'm not going to discuss it any further.

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I hate overrated movies because I think most people have enough sense to skip over something like You Got Served or Air Bud 83: Air Bud Plays Skeet Shoting. That's why something like Requiem for a Dream is so terrible: it promises infinty and doesn't put out.

4-25-04 9:53pm (new)
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MikeyG
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I'll tell you why I liked Eternal Sunshine. I know people like that. I've had relationships that strongly resemble that. My last girlfriend was a hell of a lot like Kate Winslet's character in this movie. Except Kate Winslet's character was more responsible.

While I agree the title of the movie is not 'pleb-savvy', and can come off as pretentious, it is actually just a line from an Alexander Pope (Pope Alexander to plebs and Kirstin Dunst's character) poem.

And I was slightly put off by some of the corny dialogue and goofy twists, but I love Charlie Kaufman's writing style and I was able to see past it into what it is to me: What a romantic comedy is SUPPOSED to be. Something the male and female in the relationship can enjoy.

I liked it a lot. I saw it with my girlfriend. We both enjoyed it. I fucking hate shitty romantic comedies, and this one I loved. Another romantic comedy that I liked and thought I was going to hate was As Good As It Gets. I STILL loathe Helen Hunt, and I think she's a terrible, terrible actress, but the movie outshone her crappy acting.

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4-26-04 7:02am (new)
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Chi_The_Cynic
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Well, I didn't read this thread until I'd been to see the movie itself, for the same reason that I never read reviews or even look at movie rankings on IMDB until I've seen it for myself. As a general rule, I find other people's opinions of films a poor guide to the film itself, because they see it through their own prejudices, beliefs and impressions - none of which are mine. But now that I've seen it...

It's good. Very good. I liked it very much. Possums has made much of the so-called 'cutesy' nature to be found in this movie, but I think that betrays his lack of focus. I also distrust anybody's opinion if they walk out of a film without seeing it through to the end. "Unbreakable", for example, whatever you may think of it, is pretty uninteresting until the last scene, at which stage the rest of it fits together much better. The film was not 'cutesy' just because it contained some moments which could be construed as cute. Sure, the scenes between Carrey and Winslet are cute at times, but then if you're trying to portray romance without any cuteness whatsoever, you're going to have a hard time making it realistic. Romance is cute, and if you want to make a film that hinges upon a love story without any cute elements at all, it's not going to be convincing.

The 'digital touch-ups' which he mentions are not at all misplaced or used for pointless effect. Take the scene where he's in the bookshop and the spines of the books gradually disappear - I didn't notice this until my friend sitting next to me pointed it out, and that's how subtle it was. Obviously it became more overt after that, but such touches were all over the film, and they were good because they show how our memory is dominated by the central events in a given recollection, and the details are easily manipulated, with or without Harry's mind device. Could you recall the names of all the books on the shelf behind you now in the order they appear on the shelf? Probably not, even though you look at that shelf everyday. It was making a point, and a good one at that.

The loop in the story could've been cheesey, but it wasn't precisely because of the sub-plot involving Harry and Mary that brings the second-time potential love crashing around Carrey and Winslet's ears (literally). They're not made for each other, their relationship isn't a match made in heaven, and they're not going to have any better chance the second time around than they did the first. That's how life is, there are no second chances, and no mind device is going to change that. So, for all possums' complaints about it being a major plot device, what the film actually shows is that the mind device won't do what we want it to do. In effect, it has no effect, and thus is removed from the story's overall message.

That's my two-penneth, anyway.

5-03-04 10:01am (new)
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MikeyG
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Thank you, Chi. You illuminated a lot of the great things about the movie.

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5-03-04 10:44am (new)
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Chi, I don't think the love story is cute. It's actually slightly interesting: two people who like each other because they are both anti-social(I think). It's different than most.

Cutesy perhaps wasn't the word.

What did piss me off was the stupid fucking scene under the table where Carrey was 5 years old, the stupid stoned memory erasers dancing around Carrey's comatose body, and Kate Winslet asking, "do you think I'm ugly?"

But you know, I decided to give this film another chance. My girlfriend wanted to see it, so we went. I watched it all the way through this time. I can see how it ties together better... some things seem less worse to me than they did before, but for the most part I still did not like it. I guess I can see how some people would like it and some people can not. I didn't like it, my parents despised it, a few of my friends think it's a masterpiece, some think it's stupid, and my girfriend is fence-sitting. She thinks it has a dumb plot and boring characters but it has an interesting execution.

5-03-04 11:58am (new)
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MikeyG
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I thought the stupid "Do you think I'm ugly?" fit right in with her character. I mean, the girl obviously has issues with her self-esteem.

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5-03-04 1:31pm (new)
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