now, that would just be silly.

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I bet the Smoking Manholes would do a great Responsible Hate Album.

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Gah, they're repeating the Tribute to Celebrities' Egos! It was only on for the first time the other night!!!

o/` Nazis,
what are they good for
Absolutely nothing. o/`

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sing it again, now: Nazis, HUH!

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What are they good for?
Absolutely nothing, except maybe compost.

Hmmm... is that getting a bit irresponsible?

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no, it's very responsible to turn nazi corpses into something useful. in fact, i saw martha stewart make a plantar out of hermann goering's skull.

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Does Godwin's Law apply to forums as well as usenet?

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Yep. End of thread.

I thought only an unintentional mention of Hitler could invoke Godwin's Law. Goering doesn't count, does he? Oh, and mentioning the Law explicitly negates it, as well, because it nearly always provokes discussion of Godwin's Law... if ya get my meaning...

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...oh, and Nazi swastika armbands can be sewn into the knees of your gardening pants, to pad your knees while kneeling and working in the garden.

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i can't believe dictionary.com defines godwin's law
how have i never heard about it before?
funny funny stuff

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When I see this thread I think of this ->

Ashes?

Why?

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But is it really ashes? Or is it a putrid pile of arse? Your answer reveals more about your psychological well-being than you might think.

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The fact that I drew it, and named the two files ashes1.gif and ashes2.gif makes a difference.

Besides, if either your arse or your faeces are that colour, you are in serious trouble.

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Yep. End of thread.

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Don't fall into the trap of this common misinterpretation of Godwin's Law. Folks think the mention of Hitler/Nazis signals end of thread, but the Law does not view it that way. Rather it simply sees it as a natural, inevitable degradation of the discussion. The signal/noise ratio by that point is probably sufficiently lousy that the thread might as well be over, but that in itself is beyond the scope of the Law.

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Also, it originally was supposed to be comparative in nature. When an argument had degenerated to the point of "Well, if you think that, then you're some kind of Nazi."

Though there is an addendum saying that a mention of Nazism or Hitler would inevitably steer the conversation away from its original intent. Here, however, I think a mention of Godwin's law served to do that. Irony.

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Wow.
I said something negative about this crapfest on IRC and people jumped up my ass about it.
While admittedly, that felt good, it was annoying to have people all over me because I was annoyed by this. What, two hours of CRAP, on every goddamn channel? Even going to Satellite didn't help you escape it, as the only channels not featuring total crap "music" were crappy channels anyway. What's funny is the fact that M2 or VH1 (can't remember which) was actually going on with regular programming!

If anyone wants to hear some decent music dedicated to fallen lives, check out Iced Earth's "Ghost of Freedom" off the new album, Horror Show. It might even bring a tear to your eyes.

Also, why have Nazis become the bad guys for everyone? Is it just politically incorrect to call the communists bad guys? National Socialism wasn't ideologically about racism in any way. And despite it's name, it had nothing to do with Socialism. Nazi high officials didn't represent an entire people, just as George W. Bush doesn't represent all people in a Democracy. National Socialists, or Nazis, means anyone who lived in Germany at the time. Anyway, have fun kids.

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They launched an aggressive war which cost millions of lives.

They exterminated over 6 million Jews, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals inside of a few years by murdering them, stripping the bodies of their valuables and gold fillings, and then burning the corpses to ash, or bulldozing them into lime pits.

They ignored the Geneva convention and tortured several hundred thousand prisoners of war. Many of them to death.

They went into Jewish communities all over Europe, stole their belongings, burned their homes, murdered the elderly, tattooed the rest, and shipped them off in railroad cars to work themselves to death or be
gassed.

They stole works of art, gold reserves, and other valuable assets from several governments that they had lain waste to, and most of these items have been unrecoverable by their owners, or their owner's heirs.

They did this in the name of genetic and racial superiority.

This all happened less than 60 years ago.

Aside from that, they were just regular guys.

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The leaders are the ones who commanded those acts to be done. Nazis were no more about killing than communists were. You know why people were willing and ready to kill the people you talked about? Propaganda. The same reason hundreds of americans are all ready to go blow up Pakistan. No, I'm not morally vindicating Hitler, the leaders, or the soldiers who followed their orders, but the soldiers for the most part were just as much patriots for Germany as ours were for America. There are many ways to get some real facts, and one that you may want to look up on is the 6 million figure. Several people were killed during World War II, and there are some facts that seem to slip through the History Books. For one, the Jewish leaders had declared war on Germany before the 'Final Soloution' had been brought into play.

Furthermore, any 'Geneva Convention' ideals are for those who want to follow them. Did the Viet Cong follow the Geneva Convention? Nope. Did Communist Russia? To my knowledge, they broke or bent the rules several times. Stalin is just as guilty of hate crimes and war crimes as Hitler was.
Furthermore, when did numbers matter? Who cares if a hundred or a million people died at the hands of a dictator? Does a smaller death count make a man less evil? I don't think so.

Also, do you think our internment camps for the Japanese during WWII were much better than Nazi camps? At least they weren't under a false pretense. Yes, I think America was wholly justified in nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima, I also hate killing on racial reasoning.

These days people refer to just about anything restrictive or inhuman as "Nazi", what about the communists? The communist state was far worse to live under for EVERYONE than the Nazi government.

Think what you like about Nazi Germany, I personally don't care either way, as I have no way to prove the facts, pro or con. Just realize that calling something 'Naziesque' is being very trite.

In the end, I'm not a neo-nazi, and don't hate any specific race. I'm also not trying to make Nazi Germany look good, but with 60 years in perspective, I'm simply trying to point out some incredible new possibilities, including the idea that maybe we shouldn't pass judgment, when the Americans never even got a chance to survey the place before Russia jumped on it. Who first suveyed the death camps? Russia. Who gave first reports on anything after that? Russia. Do you really trust Stalin?

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I lived in Scotland while Thatcher was in power, but that doesn't mean I was a (shudder) Tory. The Taliban are in power in Afghanistan, but that doesn't mean everyone in Afghanistan is in the Taliban.

And the people living in communist China aren't communists, the people living in the US aren't Capitalists.

The Taliban is not the same as the National Socialists. All I'm saying is that there are more bad people than just the Nazis, and I think the constant Nazi referrences add insult to injury when it comes to the German people. That's as much of a part of history they want to foget as slavery is to us.

You think the people of Germany had much of a choice about their government standing?

Bah.

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Do you believe the Jews who survived the death camps?

Do you believe the American/Allied soldiers who liberated the Buchenwald, Dachau, Mauthausen, and Nordhausen concentration camps?

Do you believe the British soldiers who liberated the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp?

Do you believe the French soldiers who discovered the Natzwiller concetration camp?

Do you believe the mountain of photographic evidence combined with camp records seized by Allied troops that detail prisoner logistics?

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The thing is, there are STILL Nazis all over the world. I understand the US is hoaching with the bastards. So when people talk about Nazis now, they often mean the present global movement, as opposed to your actual wartime Nazis.