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boorite
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If Bush was prepared to do that, he doesn't count as remotely evil in my book.

Even if he'd support the bombing of civilian targets in "enemy" countries?
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He'd sacrifice his own life in order to prevent a massacre which, as you accept, pushed his approval ratings skyward and gave him an excuse to do whatever his backers want? Why would he do this?
He is, after all, the President of the United States, and also a Texan. He might not blink at the razing of Iraqi sewage and water treatment plants and the resulting cholera outbreak that killed half a million people, mostly kids, but JESUS, man! He wouldn't stand by while religious nutballs blew up half of New York City AND the Pentagon AND took a shot at the Capitol (probably). I mean, call him evil, but this is like saying Tojo engineered the bombing of Hiroshima.

I can't find where I ever called W altruistic, but if I did, I hereby take it back.

I think the "blood for oil" thing and the ties to corporate crime and the death squads down South might mitigate his claim to sainthood.

I'll bet if he had the chance, he'd take a bullet rather than see those towers go down. He's still a congenital criminal and a brain-damaged lapdog of a President, but I think you're being a bit hard on him.

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8-20-02 11:31am (new)
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andydougan
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He is, after all, the President of the United States, and also a Texan. He might not blink at the razing of Iraqi sewage and water treatment plants and the resulting cholera outbreak that killed half a million people, mostly kids, but JESUS, man! He wouldn't stand by while religious nutballs blew up half of New York City AND the Pentagon AND took a shot at the Capitol (probably). I mean, call him evil, but this is like saying Tojo engineered the bombing of Hiroshima


I didn't suggest that the government engineered this - as I said, I doubt they would have the nerve. Anyway, it's not a far comparison: Tojo and the Japanese authorities at the time gained nothing from the destruction of Hiroshima, while the people behind the chimp have clearly benefited from this.

Realpolitik is as contemptuous of one country's dead as it is of another's. If you want to get anywhere, it doesn't make sense naively to distinguish between equipping Colombian paramilitaries and allowing your own populace to be slaughtered. Operation Northwood is one of several examples that just went to show that - but perhaps you think the government has become markedly less cynical since the 60s.

8-20-02 12:57pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I agree that they've tied us out like goats, but not that they would do it consciously. I think they tell themselves at least some lies. I don't think the US apparatus saw it coming and chose not to stop it. I think it's more accurate to say they could have and should have seen it coming, but chose not to. A nice distinction, maybe.

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8-20-02 1:11pm (new)
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andydougan
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Well, I think history has proven you wrong. But we're not going to agree.

8-20-02 1:49pm (new)
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gabe_billings
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I bet the whole thing was just to distract us from aliens that are soon going to be taking over the planet.

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8-20-02 1:55pm (new)
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boorite
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How the fuck has history proven me wrong, you haggis-assed faggoty faggot?

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8-20-02 3:03pm (new)
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Jael
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Hey!! Leave the TEXAN part out of this..yeesh! I had to inform everyone that not ALL Texans are Republican bible thumping, rifle toting idiots.

Bush, Clinton...Reagan...Carter....regardless of who was President there are always going to be the idjits who see a conspiracy in everything. Do I think that our government has its share of shysters and spin doctors? Hell yes!

The fact is the US backed Bin Laden to get the Russkies out and then forgot to control their Frankenstein. Bush 1 had the chance to get Hussain out...so did Clinton...neither chose to..now look where we are again his ugly mustachio is popping up.

The President is not a political mastermind, I think being elected by the general populace ensures that fact. He's a puppet played by those behind the scenes for their interests. Any day now Qaddafi is going to rear his ugly head....

and why can't I stop typing with these freaking ......
I don't know, must be the fault of some stone thrower on the West Bank. All in all, I wish the US would just stay out of everyone's business for a month. No money, no handouts, no interference. Then let's see how many of them start screaming for us to come back. Now I must return to rant incessently to my local congress idiot about slave reparations.

"You want your 40 acres and a mule? Fine..here ya go."
"Wait...this is 40 acres and a Kia...in ALASKA???"

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8-20-02 6:11pm (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Some quick notes...

The WTC towers didn't fall from the top or the bottom - they both fell from the middle, roughly where the planes hit. The burning jet fuel liquefied the steel supports in the walls, a few floors collapsed, and the shock of that impact made the whole thing collapse in both cases.

As for the US government staying out of other countries' business for a month, sure there'd be people whining for them to come back...

...US-installed puppet dictators suddenly finding themselves with no support, since their military and/or police now have no funding or weapons, and the common people who despise them have no method of control...

...US-based multinational corporations who control government officials with hefty bribes while the actual people of the nation see their rivers poisoned, their forests razed,, and their air filled with smog...

...the World Bank and IMF, they'd be sad to see US financing and military muscle go from the world...

...that said, I doubt that regular everyday Nigerians, Argentinians, Afghans, or countless others would be too sad about it.

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8-20-02 6:49pm (new)
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andydougan
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8-20-02 7:05pm (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Funny coincidence... Guerrilla News has an article up on this very topic.

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8-20-02 7:54pm (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
Stripcreator Newbie

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I see no mention of biscuits in that article.

8-21-02 1:34am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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Nor manrape.

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8-21-02 1:59am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I take it all back. You're a magnificent faggoty-assed faggot!

It's funny that we're quibbling over exactly how evil Washington is.

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8-21-02 6:32am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Hey!! Leave the TEXAN part out of this..yeesh! I had to inform everyone that not ALL Texans are Republican bible thumping, rifle toting idiots.

Being from South Louisiana, which is practically the same as Southeast Texas, I know this. I wasn't saying Texans are all Dubya-style nitwits. But just about any Texan would take a bullet to erase the events of 9/11. I don't think non-American persons (such as, oh, say, SCOTSMEN) quite understand this at a gut level.
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The fact is the US backed Bin Laden to get the Russkies out and then forgot to control their Frankenstein.

That was the official version of history until 1997, and then several high Carter officials came out with a slight amendment: We created Afghan Islamism (complete with a trained and equipped army) not in response to a Soviet invasion but to provoke a Soviet invasion. In the words of National Security Adviser Brzezinsky, we wanted to give them their Vietnam. He was bragging about it, taking credit, and saying, we brought down the Soviet Union, so who cares if some Muslims got riled up in the process? He hasn't been bragging about it since 9/11, though.

He's been more useful in than out. The idea was to squeeze him with this "humanitarian relief for oil" deal. You see, if we'd toppled his government, a new one would come in, and we could no longer justify sanctions. Certain issues like nationalization of oil fields and even Arab (or more generally Mideast) unity might also arise. Very bad for business!
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All in all, I wish the US would just stay out of everyone's business for a month.

VERY bad for business!

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8-21-02 6:45am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I wouldn't say "middle." I'm looking at the video now. It was near the top, but not at it. Just far down enough so that when the steel melted (as you say), the top section came down like a hammer and smashed the rest.

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As for the US government staying out of other countries' business for a month...
(snip)... I doubt that regular everyday Nigerians, Argentinians, Afghans, or countless others would be too sad about it.
Yeah, exactly.

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8-21-02 6:53am (new)
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Jael
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Being from South Louisiana, which is practically the same as Southeast Texas, I know this. I wasn't saying Texans are all Dubya-style nitwits. But just about any Texan would take a bullet to erase the events of 9/11. I don't think non-American persons (such as, oh, say, SCOTSMEN) quite understand this at a gut level.

Oh I don't know about taking a bullet....maybe providing one back hehe. We're fickle that way.

I just wanted to say thanks Boo, for giving me the lowdown on the rest of that rant. With as much History channel and crap that I watch, I miss stuff like that. Its good to know. (PS, that was not sarcasm...I mean it)

I watched a movie the other night (I think I'd call it a spoof) with Cary Elwes and Kelsey Grammer about the fiasco that was the Bradley Tank. All I can say is that I was yelling obscenities at the tv throughout the thing. Crap like that pisses me off to no end.

Anyhoo

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8-21-02 8:43am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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And thanks for the thanks. I tend to go into Lecture Mode at the slightest provocation. Sometimes it's welcome, and other times.... I do it anyway. :-)

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8-21-02 10:23am (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Now, more than ever, I want one of these:

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8-21-02 11:10am (new)
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andydougan
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Looks like Christopher Hitchens has kicked poor Noam's teeth in.

8-21-02 2:25pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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All this detracts from the important issue, which is why is it more politically detrimental to have an active sex life than to be stupid and evil?

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8-22-02 1:03pm (new)
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Smarmulus
THE ARISTOCRAT

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Spanky,
Don't you know that participating in oral sex is FAR WORSE than ordering the murder of thousands of civilians (as long as they are Arabs), stealing money thru securities fraud, allowing logging in national parks, suspending constitutional protections, etc...

Sure Bush has had lots of oral sex from coke whores when he was a cocaine addicted alcoholic, [& he fucked over the state of Texas by campaigning to get a very expensive sports stadium built to increase the value of his own sports team - bought with his daddy's oil money - which he soon after sold at a huge profit] -- but he wasn't the president then.

Lesson to be learned - if you want to be president have wealthy parents, & limit your drug abusing and womanizing to the time before and after your presidency.

Let's face it. All of the world would still be laughing at this semi-literate clown if 9/11 hadn't happened.

I hate the hypocrisy goddamnit. And Gore (who is no saint) got more votes than Bush. THAT IS AN UNDISPUTED FACT. Gore got fewer electoral votes. The brain damaged alcholoic was one of only two presidents of the US to be elected when getting fewer popular votes than his opponent.

To quote the great Phil Ochs,"Now that he's the president he isn't even the president."

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8-22-02 1:33pm (new)
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Smarmulus
THE ARISTOCRAT

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A TRUE PATRIOT IS ONE WHO TRIES TO IMPROVE HIS COUNTRY BECAUSE HE LOVES IT --- WHEREAS A TRUE NATIONALIST/FASCIST IS ONE WHO LOVES HIS COUNTRY NO MATTER WHAT EVILS IT COMMITS.

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8-22-02 1:36pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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It's not the country that commits the evils. Usually, it's the government in Washington. Most of us (me included) sit by and watch it happen, and so we're accountable, but because the political process is so heavily determined by propaganda and campaign funds, it may be over the top to say "America commits evil" or whatever. Some truck driver in Iowa probably doesn't want Salvadoran peasants murdered any more than you do, even though he votes republican and has a "Semper Fi" bumper sticker. That's important to remember when you're trying to reach people with uncomfortable facts.

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8-22-02 1:54pm (new)
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Smarmulus
THE ARISTOCRAT

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"Go and wash this filthy witness from your hands."

That's probably a paraphrase rather than the actual quote.

Boo, you are right about the truck driver - the misinformation is staggering. And the mainstream press being termed "liberal" is such a joke. But if certain mantras (such as that one) are repeated enough times people begin to believe them.

Another dis-favorite of mine is "god bless america." I'm shocked to know that people actually think jesus or some god considers the US government superior to other the governments of other countries. As far as I know the Morons (typo) Mormons are the only ones who think jesus visited the US.

Finally, as DexX pointed out to me on IRC, most of the folks here are either leftists or a-political. I can't imagine protestant republican truck drivers ever wanting to return to this site after seeing the types of comics here.

Sorry for the ranting Boo. I'd better go check my blood glucose level. I'm an insulin dependent diabetic and when my glucose gets very low I tend to go into ranting mode.

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8-22-02 2:10pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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I don't know if it is. I got the impression that, had Clinton been running in Gore's stead in 2000, he'd've won easily, whether Jeb managed to stop the niggers from voting or not.

By the way, if Clinton were still in office, he'd be as keen to open up the Iraqi oilfields as Bush is. Clinton killed a bunch of Iraqi civilians in order to get his crooked little penis out of the news: he'd have no qualms about doing it again this time.

Over here, the 9/11 honeymoon period has pretty much worn off. Apart from the few remaining Tory-supporting newspapers, the media has reverted to laughing at him.

8-22-02 2:33pm (new)
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