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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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Fred Durst is the anti-christ.

9-27-02 8:09am (new)
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punkrockskaboy
Defender of the Liquor Cabinet

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Well, I have to slightly alter my opinion, I did like 3 doller bill. That one was good because it was before they started giving in to pop culture. "all I wanted was a pepsi just one pepsi, far from suicidal..."

Anyone know what that is a reference too? A "punk" (I call them punk for lack of a better grouping) band called Suicidal Tendencies. They have only a couple good songs.

One is called I Saw Your Mommy. The other I fuckin forget. but the nameless one is the one that that line is a reference to. "All I wanted was a pepsi, just one pepsi AND YOU WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME!'

The song is all about the kid whose parents are committing him because he happens to spend a lot of time in his room and never talks to them, when in reality he isnt crazy. "MY best interest? How do YOU know whats in MY best interest?" The song is a riot. Check it out.

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9-27-02 8:43am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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That's pretty much my opinion as well.

Yeah. That's actually the only Suicidal Tendencies song I've heard, so I can't speak to their talent. Actually I remember it being not so much a song as a rant. It's okay though.

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9-27-02 9:06am (new)
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attitudechicka
is never bored.

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As far as "new" punk goes, if it is heard on a pop music station, it is not punk. I guess I dont agree with you on that one until I know what you mean by 'new' punk. If you mean any punk music made after 1995, I disagree on that one. If you mean things like Blink182 and some of that garbage, then yes, I do agree.

If it's heard on a pop music station, it's pop. But that doesn't disclude it from being another genre as well. Top 40 songs could be anything from R&B to contemporary. It's all in what the mainstream taste is currently. Let me be the first to agree that Blink 182 is NOT punk, but there are a few other bands that have made the top 40 charts in recent years that I would consider punk or something similar.

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9-27-02 9:42am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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I will give a hundred dollars to anyone who can find me two people who agree completely on what is and isn't punk.

We're going to get into the genre debate again, aren't we? Oh well, at least we're already in the Fights forum.

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9-27-02 9:48am (new)
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DH-01
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Punk's hard to define. Punks, on the other hand... my favorite example would be, oh, Metallica post-Load. =)

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9-27-02 10:23am (new)
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punkrockskaboy
Defender of the Liquor Cabinet

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Being mainstream turns it away from the punk scene in most cases. You kind of shot your arguement in the foot with the mainstream remark. See, punk listeners thrive on underground music. Things that arent played on pop stations. We don't listen because it is mainstream and "the cool thing to do". It is just that we like it as it is. It may still be technically classified as "punk-rock" but it is far from the punk scene if it is on a pop music station.

However, I suppose on the flip side, if I REALLY like a band, I am not gonna stop listening to them because they went mainstream unless their style changes. This frequently happens in the jump from punk to mainstream. One perfect example is Jimmy Eat World. Listen to something older by them or even Bleed American off the new album. Then flip a couple tracks to that god awful song on pop stations everywhere "The Middle". Completely different. I lose respect for bands who change their style to match what popular culture wants.

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9-27-02 1:24pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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So if one of your 'punk' bands suddenly became adored by the general public and everyone wanted to hear them played on the radio, then what? Assuming there's no changing of styles to conform to populace. Are they no longer punk? Do you no longer listen to them because they're too popular?

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9-27-02 1:52pm (new)
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DH-01
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Being mainstream turns it away from the punk scene in most cases. You kind of shot your arguement in the foot with the mainstream remark. See, punk listeners thrive on underground music. Things that arent played on pop stations. We don't listen because it is mainstream and "the cool thing to do". It is just that we like it as it is. It may still be technically classified as "punk-rock" but it is far from the punk scene if it is on a pop music station.

However, I suppose on the flip side, if I REALLY like a band, I am not gonna stop listening to them because they went mainstream unless their style changes. This frequently happens in the jump from punk to mainstream. One perfect example is Jimmy Eat World. Listen to something older by them or even Bleed American off the new album. Then flip a couple tracks to that god awful song on pop stations everywhere "The Middle". Completely different. I lose respect for bands who change their style to match what popular culture wants.


Hrm. Understandable.

I, for one, like some stuff that gets airtime or MTV-time. Some: much of today's mainstream music is woefully bland, with rare exceptions. I like to listen to power metal/progmetal/general odd metal bands that some people haven't even heard of yet, mainly because their music's a fresh breath of air. Much mainstream IS semi-sterile and devoid of the band's actual musical style. Sometimes... it's not, and the mass-media's forced to accept that.

... and sometimes, a band just sucks horridly as they get older, like Metallica, S&M notwithstanding. =)

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9-27-02 2:32pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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Dude, JEW didn't change their style to be pop by making "The Middle", it just happened to be a great song that wasn't overly punk/emo!

Just becuase the pop stations play it means it's pop. Same with Weezer(though I'm starting to get concerned about them).

Anyway, I like Emo and punk, yeah, but not as much as Grunge/PostGrunge, hard rock and prog stuff like

Tool
Foo Fighters
Radiohead
Oasis
Satriani
Nirvana
Silverchair(but I just started listening to 'em, they sound ok).
Alien Ant Farm
Green Day(well, this falls into the former catagories)

I dunno. It's really a journeyman thing, learning everything about music, eh bunner?

9-27-02 9:03pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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I classify music into two big chunks. Stuff I'll listen to, and stuff I don't care for.

Wanna see a weird ass playlist? Take a look at this.

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9-27-02 9:25pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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I declare this WinAmp playlist sharing time.

Here's mine.

9-27-02 9:57pm (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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Mine is several months out of date and I don't necessarily like all the songs on it. And I don't use WinAmp too much lately. I've gone back to CDs, for the most part.

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9-28-02 4:58am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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Okay, now I updated it.

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9-28-02 5:15am (new)
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clone77
Pink Donkey Wrangler

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not really punk, but good shit :

system of a down
rage against the machine
such a surge (only the old stuff)
tool
korn
(some stuff off) linkin park

also a selected few songs of slipknot are ok.

i noticed that the above bands are actually crossover - metall with influences from hip hop, punk and other music styles.

but once we are at this point :

what about deicide, cannibal corpse burzum, etc. ???
not that i constantly listen to their stuff, but every now and then i do enjoy it.

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9-28-02 6:52am (new)
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attitudechicka
is never bored.

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Wanna see a weird ass playlist? Take a look at this.

You like the song track01 by artist too?

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9-28-02 9:15am (new)
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punkrockskaboy
Defender of the Liquor Cabinet

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I dont wanna post my playlist(s) on account that i have divided my list up by genre. The only things in the same playlist are punk/ska/emo/hardcore.

JEW, whole new cd sucked balls with exception to Bleed American and Praise Chorus. The Middle marks their fall from punk into pop-rock in my opinion.

To answer a question from someone...I dont remember who: If a band I listen to gets play on MTV or the radio I still listen to them, as long as they don't stray from their own style and roots. I am not a die-hard "any band who plays on the radio after being underground are sell-outs" person. A couple of my friends are and i disagree. God forbid a band should make money and stop sleeping on their parents basement floor. Saves the Day has a video or two on MTV and they are still one of my favorite bands. The shitty little pop stations haven't gotten a hold of them yet though and I dont think they ever will. Bottom line, if they dont change their music to fit what mainstream culture has in mind for them, I am happy.

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9-28-02 10:20am (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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You like the song track01 by artist too?

Yeah. I dig that one. But their new stuff is shit.

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9-28-02 1:08pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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I had to go look and see what it is, of course. Turns out it's Surfing with the Alien by Joe Satriani.

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9-28-02 1:09pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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You better get out your DragonXero repellant.

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9-28-02 1:11pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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JEW, whole new cd sucked balls with exception to Bleed American and Praise Chorus. The Middle marks their fall from punk into pop-rock in my opinion.

::loads shotgun::

9-28-02 2:52pm (new)
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punkrockskaboy
Defender of the Liquor Cabinet

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crusifying me for my beliefs? I cant believe I just compared myself to jesus
maybe one fucked up jesus. haha.

BTW I didn't say no one else could like them ! :P

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9-28-02 3:54pm (new)
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sub_m7
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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'one fucked up jesus'

???

explain !!!

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9-29-02 4:21am (new)
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joshw
I'm spooky.

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My Winamp playlist consists of the following bands:
Bad religion
Black Flag
Black Halos
Bouncing Souls
Cake
Goldfinger
Good Charlotte
Looper
Millencolin
MXPX
Operation Ivy
Ramones
Rancid
Rosenbergs
Screaching Weasels.

I beleive that is only four genres: Punk, Ska, rock and "alternative"

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10-11-02 11:36am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
Stripcreator Newbie

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Surely what you are doing here is admitting how closed-minded you are when it comes to music genres.

10-14-02 1:36am (new)
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