You really think Canada has the resources to pull something like this off? No way... They'd probably just send some big lumberjacks who'd give up and go home once they broke all the teeth of thier saws. :)

:O

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"You'll burn for this. Burn in jail!"

Jesus Christ.

*shakes his head*

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

It ain't over yet...

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I hope that doesn't make reaching survivors any more difficult than it already is.

Caught a blurb about anti-aircraft fire and explosions in Afghanistan. Noone yet seems to know whether it's retaliation or internal strife.

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"You'll burn for this. Burn in jail!"

Reading this thread after the day I've had has been surreal.

Thank you for your concern, DexX. I don't live in NYC anymore, but I spent the morning with my heart in my throat because my mom works in the WTC and I couldn't get through to ANYONE.

My mom is partially disabled, and uses a scooter. She had to abandon it and walk down 19 flights of stairs, and then pretty far uptown until she and some coworkers managed to get a cab. She spent the day safely at a coworker's house, and called her mother and my sister. My boyfriend finally got in touch with my sister (we were both diligently trying at our respective workplaces) and got the news from her. My mom finally called me a couple of hours ago. She still isn't home, but she's working on it.

I'm relieved as hell that she is alive, but what the hell is she supposed to do now? She has no job, no mobility, and if shit gets worse and they have to declare martial law for some reason, no freedom. I'm horrified.

By the same token, I can understand multiple facets of this. I can understand why the Palestinian people are dancing in the streets. We're the Evil Empire that controls their lives, in their eyes. It's a Ding-Dong-The-Witch-Is-Dead kind of celebration. I don't hate them for it. I understand it to a degree.

I also have a kind of horrified respect for the planning that went into all of this. The terrorists have succeeded in an unprecedented act. Pearl Harbor pales in comparison to this. We're the big brother that resolves all our little brothers' fights... no one is supposed to be able to hurt the big brother... but they did. Americans talk about war, but no one ever thinks of it as being something that's going to happen here.

I am still numb from all of this.

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I had some thoughts as to how this might affect future terrorism.

Imagine that at some point prior to the event, you're flying in a plane. Suddenly some guys with pillowcases on their heads holding pistols pop into your cabin and tell you they're hijacking the plane. Most people aren't into doing anything gung-ho, knowing they'll probably just get shot and they're no point throwing their life away.

From this point forward if anyone tries to hijack a plane, you have to figure a good chunk of the passenger population might assume that impact with a large stationary object is in their near future, and if they're gonna buy it, they might as well try and kick some terrorist ass first. If I had to put a bet on half a dozen terrorists with guns and forty or fifty panicking, frantic people, I'd put my money on the passengers stomping the terrorists into goo.

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Hey all. Just want to express my shock and horror over all this too. Yeah, the WHOLE trade towers collapsed for those who haven't seen. I heard an estimate (probably low) on the radio of 10,000 dead in NYC, but that's bound to go up.

I'm giving blood tonight too, once I locate the nearest blood center. I urge everyone else here to do that too. I saw on TV that most of NYC's blood supply comes in by plane from Europe (why, I dunno...) so get outand give blood. I'm realyl scared of needles, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I don't think WW3 is gonna come out of this. ALl major (and most minor) countries are expressing shock and horror at this as well. Really the options are down to Iran, Iraq (most likely in my opinion), terrorists in Afganistan, Pakistan or Lybia.

I'm not normally the religious type, but I'm thanking whatever diety might be up there because my dad was flying to Europe last night/this morning. Thankfully he's in Vienna and fine.

Was ladyj in NY or in Nebraska? I can't remember if she moved or not yet...

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Shit. Look at the facts about halfway down this page.

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is it just me, or did george w. just say pretty much nothing?

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Indeed that was a weak-ass speech.

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as for the WW3 thing, i'm not sure what to think. clearly, this was an act of war, but then none of the usual suspects are stepping up and taking credit.

best case scenario: desert storm 2. we swoop over kabul (or wherever), bomb the crap out of it, proclaim bin laden (or whoever) dead, and all we're left with is a buttload of yellow ribbons and nothing to do with them.

worst case: some big country that hates us (china, perhaps?) takes our aggression as a personal affront, and we have a bunch of lines in the sand, and a lot of carnage on our hands.

i don't think that second one is particularly likely, but there is the potential here for a majorly nasty mess.

my advice to all of you now, on a more personal level: fill your gas tanks, if it's not too late. i'm hearing reports of prices up to $7/gallon around the country--oil refineries are scaling back their gasoline production for the possibly impending war effort.

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brad: i was soooo hoping for a "tonight, the battle has been joined" type of thing--he should have taken a page from his dad's playbook. perhaps that makes me a stereotypical american, but i do sleep a bit better knowing that the first sortie is on its way...

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if everyone else is silly, i can be too.
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Fuck. I knew that I should've gotten a Honda Insight instead of a Ford Excursion with a V10 engine.

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best case scenario: desert storm 2. we swoop over kabul (or wherever), bomb the crap out of it, proclaim bin laden (or whoever) dead, and all we're left with is a buttload of yellow ribbons and nothing to do with them.

worst case: some big country that hates us (china, perhaps?) takes our aggression as a personal affront, and we have a bunch of lines in the sand, and a lot of carnage on our hands.

i don't think that second one is particularly likely, but there is the potential here for a majorly nasty mess.

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I just answered this. :)

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Because I just don't feel like typing out all the details again, here is what I posted to the people who were worried about me in rec.arts.bodyart. The difference between that post and the one I made higher up in this thread is that since the post I made here, I've talked to my mom.

From rec.arts.bodyart:

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>Jess, Keith, everyone else...please check in so we know you are OK.

I'm not in NYC. I'm in Nebraska... which is why I spent the morning with my
heart in my throat because I could not get in touch with ANYONE to find out
if my mom is okay. My mom works^Hed on the 20th floor in one of the
buildings (I assume the one that was hit first). She is partially disabled
and had to abandon her scooter. Her coworkers helped her down the stairs
through smoke and debris and gushing water as slowly as she needed to go.
Every once in a while, someone would make loud "hurry up" noises behind them
and they'd step aside and let the noisy people go, but for the most part,
everyone was WONDERFUL.

My mom and her coworkers booked it uptown and commandiered a cab. The cab
driver didn't want to take them anywhere, but my mom told him that they'd
just lived through hell and he was most certainly going to take them to the
East Village, and they were going to give him a heap of money for it. An
hour or so later they were in an apartment on Avenue C, eating Popeye's
chicken and reflecting on what had happened.

I only just talked to her now and I was shaking and weeping while she was
relating this story to me in her most conversational manner. She was
amazingly cool about the whole thing. She said that she and her companions
talked about it and compared notes and realized that they don't really feel
angry. Stunned and tired? Yes. But not angry. She said that the biggest
sabre-rattlers in this whole thing are not the people who ran through
raining debris. She said she heard people in the stairwells as they were
evacuating talking about what an ass Bush is.

Don't contribute to the panic. Don't contribute to the ridiculous
conjecture. Don't contribute to the hate. Don't line up for gas at $4 a
gallon. This is a horrendous and unprecedented thing, and we will feel the
effects for years to come, and my thoughts and wishes are with everyone who
has family and/or friends in those buildings... but we *must* do everything
we can to regain some degree of normalcy as quickly as possible.

Let's roast some newbies and see some tattoos, for fuck's sake.

Jess

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We haven't used Napalm in a while!
I'm glad this has all calmed down, people are thinking logically again.
I shouldn't have bough that Ford Explosion.
I actually own a 69 El Camino. I'm fuxx0red.
My genitals itch.
Dan Rather was about to cry.
This is the first time I've heard "OH MY FUCKING GOD" on national TV.
I may be irreligious, but I send my concerns to all of you.
Have a good night...

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and in the interest of promoting the return to normalcy, here is how my day went, in comic form:

[Click to view comic: 'Salvaging from the rubble']

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Hehehe, that made me chuckle a bit...
"The greatest sign of a soul is having a sense of humor in the face of tragedy".

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Bush is weak-ass. If he hadn't spent his presidency isolating us from the rest of the world we might have had an intelligence network that would have uncovered this before it happened.

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You can see one thing really clearly in that photo. Last night, as I sat sleeplessly watching the whole fucking mess unfold, someone said that the second plane turned just before it hit to maximise the damage. I didn't get what they meant, but now I see it - the pilot turned the wheel sharply, turned the plane sideways, to hit the maximum possible number of floors.

Lunatic cunts. If they want to fucking die, why take so many with them? I know it is un-Christian of me, but I really hope the mongrels responsible for this burn and suffer in Hell. They fucking deserve it.

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[Click to view comic: 'It was overflowing with people!']

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Lunatic cunts. If they want to fucking die, why take so many with them

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Sorry about that ourburst - tired and overwhelmed and angry. :(

Really glad you and your mother are okay, LadyJ.

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