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boorite
crazy knife lady

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you taught me many things but not how to get in women's pants


Well, the important thing is to try.

But seriously, sex never hurt anyone, unless the relationship is somehow selfish or dishonest. Once upon a time, life was short and birth control nonexistent and STD's mysterious, and so it made sense for societies to push abstinence. Life is different these days. I don't have space or time here to say all the relevant ways it's different, but it's different enough that the old reasons for abstinence don't make sense anymore. To me, they make the opposite of sense.

Your future wife will never admit it (or maybe she will), but she'll be grateful if you've taken off your sexual training wheels by the time you meet her. And so will you. That's just my opinion. This, on the other hand, is a fact: Sex never hurt anyone. Some argue that sex causes plenty of evil in this world, but I'd say it's repression and other abuses of sex that cause the problems.

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3-23-05 6:22am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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There is a spirituality in sex that far surpasses the kind you find in ritualistic worship.

What about ritualistic sex worship?

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3-23-05 6:29am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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Hypocrisy dictates that is acceptable.

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3-23-05 7:56am (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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The problem premarital sex from a strictly secular viewpoint is that it creates depth to a relationship that most likely is temporary, which hurts people and drags you through the gutter. Unless you're a manwhore/slut and don't care.

My problem is I'm hungry for some kind of emotional attachment as well, not just "i want to jump your bones" even though that feeling is nice. Sex would probably me right in the pooper (not literaly) in the sense it wouldn't be the right time and place for that kind of attachment, at least yet.

3-23-05 8:03am (new)
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FinnNYC
germs

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You have that 180° wrong. Sex strengthens or weakens a relationship in exactly the right ways. If it brings you closer together, Rad. If it drives you apart, better now than after you're married.

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3-23-05 10:56am (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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hell i dunno i have no experience on the matter

3-23-05 11:06am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I think that's overstating matters slightly.

Most people feel the same-- even from a strictly secular viewpoint.

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3-23-05 12:46pm (new)
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flipynif1
Aparently a Creep

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After having a ton of premarital sex some day you may find your true love. Sex is the physical showing of love, the best way to show it...if you've already done this to a ton of people, what is new now...you trusted those people to screw them, etc etc. What can you give your true love you haven't given to the rest of the football team/Dallas/world...

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3-23-05 3:48pm (new)
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fuzzyman
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that's good advice and I appreciate it fuzzy. you're pretty much dead on and while I believe in a lot of the ideas i was raised with, I can't help but flip for girls. i believe in abstinance even though I don't pledge it, and I like to think I'd save it for marriage because it's the right thing to do. But I know how I feel and it'd be smart to stay away from those situations.

i think i'll take your advice anyway


Thanks for taking it in the spirit it was intended.

From my own experience (okay, 20 years ago) there are few experiences worse than hearing "I'm late" from a girl a couple of weeks after you tried the ol' withdrawal method. Luckily, "I'm late" also turns out to be a ploy to keep you around when she senses you want to bail.

Of course, one time I was prepared and the rubber broke, but they hadn't invented Magnums yet.

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3-23-05 5:10pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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I think there's something important about being faithfull to a future spouse though. a lot of it depends on how much faith you have that someday you're going to meet prince/princess charming (as in an ideal lover, not some twisted 18th century hermaphrodite before someone makes the joke) and that you'll live happily ever after. I don't think that's true for everyone, but it doesn't hurt to believe it. I think God rewards the dilligant. To that matter, God aside, there is a system of luck or balances to the universe. One person's great injustice is mached by anothers charity. Some people are born into poverty and others are destined for great things. Maybe it's just a huge ego but I like to believe I'm destined for something greater than most of the BS i go through with in these days, and all that is just around the corner once I move out of this phase of life.

I also feel like, even though I'm hungry for some kind of emotional and physical attachment (starving that is), women are a beautiful part of the scenery on this road to whatever role is waiting for me. Whether that role is a position of power and authority, respect and wealth, or simply recognition and singular talent, the end of the rainbow is something I have to keep looking for. If anything happened that would interfere, like a unexpected pregnancy, it would derail the rest of my life and stop me from reaching the zenith of my destiny.

3-23-05 8:32pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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then again some delicious temptress could be part of it, you never know

3-23-05 8:33pm (new)
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crabby
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I think that road is leading to an unfilling marriage to a prude and a lifetime of bad sex.

3-24-05 1:24am (new)
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LususNaturae
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In my experience, the prude comes before all the sex. Sex effectively obliterates the prude. It is like a battle in the seventh circle of Hell.

Premarital sex isn't really a beautiful, wonderful, ever fulfilling experience like the gym teachers tell kids in health class. And I should know: I boned my gym teacher. But, like FinnNYC said, sex is usually a good marker for what kind of relationship it's going to be. If two kids make it on the first date, they may date for a whole goddamned year because both partners think the other is terrific right from the get-go. But it cannae last, my friend. You will find yourself in that seventh circle once more and you will realize that the end is very, very near. You may wonder, as I often do, "how did I get here and what strange drug is to blame?" But, on a high point, and although I've never tested this theory, I think waiting for the right time in each distinct relationship to "make the beast with two backs" is probably a solid investment of time. Good luck, kid.

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3-24-05 7:02am (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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Ima be leaving to go upstate to go rollerblading and stay over a friends house, then tommorow i'm gonna go out with this girl. Unfortunatly I skipped work this morning so I was unable to buy a condom in the bathroom. I'll have to remember next time. TALLY HO anyway.

I think that road is leading to an unfilling marriage to a prude and a lifetime of bad sex.


as opposed to fathering a child long before i'd like to settle down...

how old is your daughter again, crabby?

3-24-05 9:23am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I don't recall ever visiting a Circle of Hell because I had sex. Whatever.

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3-24-05 11:14am (new)
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FinnNYC
germs

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LususNaturae, we weren't talking about prison sex. I can imagine that your lockup romances were more tumultuous than what JrnymnNate is dealing with.

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3-24-05 11:52am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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Did somebody say prison rape?

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3-24-05 12:10pm (new)
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flipynif1
Aparently a Creep

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Wasn't me *runs and hides, rocking on the cold cement in the fetal posisiton*

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3-24-05 1:33pm (new)
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LususNaturae
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You're right. This is a case of misapplied knowledge gained from inconsistent past experiences! It is lucky you were there to point it out. But prison sex and sex among the masses is the same act, more or less. You can trust me on that.

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3-24-05 1:49pm (new)
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MikeyG
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I keep hearing prison sex.

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3-25-05 6:29am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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"Sex among the masses?" What are we, the aristocracy?

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3-25-05 6:57am (new)
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MikeyG
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Can we get back to the prison sex, please?

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3-25-05 7:25am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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You will, Mikey. You will.

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3-25-05 7:46am (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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The Tale of Stacy

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[I]-Meet this girl at the mall last week. Got her number.
-Talk to her during the week on AIM and phone.
-She says she wants to go out with me, tells me where and when.
-I manage to actualy get there, at fair expense.
-She calls me and tells me she's getting out later than she said she would.
-She tells me I can't hang around because her boss will be there.
-I spy her ex boyfriend and her being very close.
-She dissapears, I ask her ex where she went, and he lies to my face.
-She tells me on AIM she made up and he told her she couldn't have lunch.
-I am pissed and she signs off.[/I]

STORY
This afternoon I left my friends house upstate early so that we could get to the mall where she works at the time she gets off (hour and a half drive [going fast]). Around 20 minitues before we get there, she calls me and says she'll be working an extra hour. So I say, ok whatever, we're on our way anyway, even though I was irritated. When I get there and go into the store, she tells me that her boss is going to show up in 20 mintiues, and that he wouldn't like people just hanging around. Again, I figure, ok, whatever, and I buzz off like she tells me. She has told me she would call me either in a hour, or a hour and a half. I wait a good while.

I stop in once because I'm pissed off and I ask her if they sell and copies of "Boulderdash", an old board game. I explained "you have to lie strategicly to move your pieces around the board." She said no, and she was very apologetic about making me wait so long.

About a half hour later, I walk by the store and spy someone else through the stands behind the register. She's told me that the only people who work the store, are her, and her ex-boyfriend/still best friend. Who she broke up with last week.

Which was why I was confused when I spied her with her hands on his shoulders as he was seated, and then her hugging and perhaps kissing him. A minitue or two later I think he notices me looking in the window from across the mall, and he double checks. I figure, this got interesting, even though its turning into a four hour waste of my time I could have spent at my friends house. I full waited one hour, thirty seven minitues for her to call me, because there wasn't much else I could do. I walk in the store cooly and meet the guy in the green shirt who was behind the counter with Stacy before. I ask if Stacy is there, and he says, "no, sorry" I ask if he's seen her, he tells me "she left before I got here". An obvious weak lie that he knows I know is false. I introduce myself which catches him off guard, and he gives me the name Stacy gave me as her ex's.

So Stacy hasn't called me, I saw what I saw, I only assume she's back with her boyfriend, and has royaly wasted my time and stood me up. I call her cellphone as I leave the store, and I notice this guy making a call on his as well, as he follows behind me to the exit of the store. Her phone is off, so I leave a message to the effect of "I had to leave the mall. You know, I'd rather you don't tell me what I want to hear, and just tell me the truth instead. Maybe I'll talk to you sometime". and I get home.

When I get home, she signs into AIM for a quick second and I catch her. I already feel sick so I message her saying there's a lot of stuff I have good reason to ask but I won't. She tells me that she's so sorry, and she just made up with her boyfriend, and he told her she couldn't have lunch with her. I tell her that her boyfriend lied to me, and she says that's cause he doesn't give a shit about you. I tell her that's good because I feel the same way about him, and I used to care about you but I don't think that's needed anymore. I tell her I was just going to take her for a bite to eat, it wasn't like we were going to make out or anything. She signs off.

And the fact that I was totaly sick tonight. At least I didn't stay at my friends house to vomit and feel ill. It may have been the fluff sandwiches at 2 in the morning.

whatever, it was an important lesson to learn.

3-25-05 8:04pm (new)
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fuzzyman
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Sounds like she was using you to make her ex jealous enough to make up with her. The fact that he shows up around the time you're going to is just too convenient.

Plus, she was using you to feel good about herself during her separation.

Dude, there are plenty of girls closer to home. Do yourself a favor and find some kind of activity you enjoy where in the natural course of things you can meet women. Community theatre or something like that.

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3-25-05 8:21pm (new)
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