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Alcyonae
Member - Tobor Fan Club

WILL YOU PEOPLE LEAVE ME ALONE?! I never asked any of you people to read my poetry, MUCH LESS POST IT. And to that chick that advertises her website in her sn, go away. Does making fun of me make u feel better or something?

~alison

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I'm back.

11-13-01 4:30pm (new)
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crabby
I have an awesome avatar.

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Whoa Whoa Whoa!!!!

It's the type of humor shown in that poem thats gonna win me and Allison this Tag Team Comic Cup.

11-13-01 4:36pm (new)
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Alcyonae
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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Excuse me? Humor? That's not humor. I cut the word "hate" into my arm. And I'm not going to tell you people why because chances are you're just gonna keep bitchin' me out (ladyj or whatever) and it's not worth it. If you really wanna know, e-mail me.

~alison

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I'm back.

11-13-01 4:42pm (new)
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crabby
I have an awesome avatar.

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So........are we still Tag Team partners or what?????

11-13-01 4:51pm (new)
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krinkle
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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trouble in paradise, eh crabby?

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"You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel..." - homer

11-13-01 4:52pm (new)
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Alcyonae
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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If ya want.

~alison

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I'm back.

11-13-01 4:53pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Pick ME Monty!

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

11-13-01 4:59pm (new)
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fuzzyman
Alpha Geek

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If you want to start sucking up now, I think that would be a wise idea.
I thought it was wirthling's job to suck.

Oh, Sucking UP.

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

11-13-01 5:13pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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If you want to start sucking up now, I think that would be a wise idea.
I thought it was wirthling's job to suck.

Oh, Sucking UP.


That's the spirit!

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"And Wirthling isn't worth the paper he isn't printed on."

11-13-01 5:42pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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I once wrote a shopping list on my hand in blue biro.

It had a reasonably pointy nib!

although I never wrote a poem about it!

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11-13-01 5:47pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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Hmmm...

Here are my theories:

- you couldn't find a pen and paper
- the tattoo parlor was closed
- it was a very bizarre accident
- Marilyn Manson subliminabilized you
- you're messed up and want everyone to know about it

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"And Wirthling isn't worth the paper he isn't printed on."

11-13-01 6:10pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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when you read "messed up" think "self-obsessed", honestly, I've never met/seen anyone who likes to constantly talk about themselves more than Alcyonae, it's an ego problem, it's not emotional, the only problem is that she'll never find anyone who'll love her as much as she does.

You may think I'm out of turn since my tag-line says "Stripcreator Newbie", but you'll notice I've made as many Comics as she's made posts.

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Dad was flammable

11-13-01 6:15pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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I once engraved "your gay" into my forehead. I thought it was really witty until someone pointed out the spelling mistake. So now I have to grow my fringe long.

11-13-01 6:39pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
Snitcreator

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Excuse me? Humor? That's not humor. I cut the word "hate" into my arm. And I'm not going to tell you people why because chances are you're just gonna keep bitchin' me out (ladyj or whatever) and it's not worth it. If you really wanna know, e-mail me.

~alison


I understand why. I was an angsty teen once upon a time. It's the stupidest crap, in retrospect. It's very possible to understand you and still dislike you immensely.

I know that the hardest thing to accept will be the realization that the problem isn't that no one understands you, but that you're living in lameness.

And as for bitching you out, I really wish I'd saved the rant that I typed out and previewed and finally deleted because I decided it was too harsh to spring on someone as emotionally damaged as yourself.

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I am a delicate fucking flower. https://beacons.ai/jesskent

11-13-01 7:10pm (new)
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crabby
I have an awesome avatar.

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LadyJ is a saint.

11-13-01 7:22pm (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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WILL YOU PEOPLE LEAVE ME ALONE?! I never asked any of you people to read my poetry, MUCH LESS POST IT. And to that chick that advertises her website in her sn, go away. Does making fun of me make u feel better or something?

~alison


So you put your poetry where anyone could find it (that being online), and then get upset when someone reads and comments on it? If you're that concious about criticism, you should reconsider putting yourself in the open to be commented on.

Mabye you haven't noticed, but the group dynamic of these forums involves most of the people here making fun of each other. There's no psychological BS involving making ourselves "better" than each other, we just make friendly jabs at each other with the understanding that we don't mean anything personally offensive by it. The only times we actually insult people here are when they're too uptight about themselves to take a joke, or if they're just acting plain stupid.

And about LadyJ... I know you may not believe this, but she is/was actually being very easy on you. You may not believe this, but *I* am being very easy on you too. Stop talking bad about yourself. Don't say "I'm going to change" or "I'm trying to change..." Just make the change and stop talking about it. Don't appologize for how you're acting, just let it pass and don't mention it. And don't try to take everything everyone says as a horrible insult.

11-13-01 7:41pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
Snitcreator

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Thank you, Drexle. I expected to get some flack for smacking her down, but I'm glad someone recognized that there is actually a great deal of restraint going on between keyboard and chair, here.

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I am a delicate fucking flower. https://beacons.ai/jesskent

11-13-01 8:17pm (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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I think most of us regulars have been around you enough to know when you're holding back, or when you're actually trying to get a good message across underneath the tough delivery.

11-13-01 8:49pm (new)
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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
Bean There, Done That

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Oh ho ho.

I cant think of 4 harsher people to judge this (maybe the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse).

I shall enjoy the next few weeks.

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"Life Sucks, Then you Die. The bit inbetween isnt very funny either"

11-14-01 1:21am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
Stripcreator Newbie

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It's like she's actually revelling in how messed up she claims to be, as if it's a good thing. Well it's not. Years and years ago, when I was like 15, I did the whole angsty thing (although I wasn't a goth- even I draw the line at that) and got all depressed and things.

And then one day it hit me, the way I was acting was pissing people off, and so the way they reacted to me was in turn making me more depressed.

So what I did, and what I suggest Alison does - is CHEER UP. Be nice to people. Wear some colours. Stop listening to that godawful doomy goth music and listen to something happy (like NSync). Go out. Make jokes. Try and feel good about youself. And if that doesn't work, there's always alcoholism.

I'm sure it's very easy to fall into the self-pity trap. But in the long term it does no good.

11-14-01 1:56am (new)
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ladyjdotnet
Snitcreator

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And then one day it hit me, the way I was acting was pissing people off, and so the way they reacted to me was in turn making me more depressed.

So what I did, and what I suggest Alison does - is CHEER UP. Be nice to people. Wear some colours. Stop listening to that godawful doomy goth music and listen to something happy (like NSync). Go out. Make jokes. Try and feel good about youself. And if that doesn't work, there's always alcoholism.


Exaaaactly! (well, except for the NSync part)

I don't know what the turning point was in my life, but I do remember some of the last few remaining friends I had telling me finally to knock it off. It didn't suddenly make me wake up and turn my life around, but it came back to me when I was at a slightly better place in my life and helped me focus on what I needed to accomplish, and what I needed to avoid.

I think that people who coddle those who have created a career out of being victims are doing them a disservice. I don't particularly care if whiny fucks like me or not, so I am the logical choice to tell them to shut the fuck up and get real. If they think back on me in three years and silently thank me, wonderful. If not, that's fine. It eases my conscience that I did not contribute to prolonging the crap-wallowing.

I remember having a suicidal friend when I was a teenager. Another friend of hers said one day, "Christ, either do it or don't, but shut the fuck up about it." That struck me as being incredibly callous and dangerous. Over time, I have come to appreciate it. People who harp on about being suicidal almost never actually do it, but the whining and ridiculousness makes everyone wish they would.

So, Allison. Either make the final cut, or don't cut at all. Carving "hate" into your arm is certainly self-destructive, but it's hardly new, and it's hardly impressive. Everyone here has been a teen, has felt misunderstood, has been depressed, and most people have had suicidal thoughts at one time or another in their lives. We all got over it. One day, you'll get over it, and you'll look back on your behavior and be embarrassed.

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I am a delicate fucking flower. https://beacons.ai/jesskent

11-14-01 5:52am (new)
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attitudechicka
is never bored.

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WILL YOU PEOPLE LEAVE ME ALONE?! I never asked any of you people to read my poetry, MUCH LESS POST IT. And to that chick that advertises her website in her sn, go away. Does making fun of me make u feel better or something?

~alison


Pardon me, but I don't believe it's your right to tell who to go away and who not to. I figured after a while you would get comfortable with the people here and their reactions to you, so I decided to stay out of it. But when you start telling people who have been here a hell of a lot longer than you, you're crossing a line. My question is, why do you want people to hate you so much? Is it one of those all or nothing things? In other words, do you either want unanimous love or unanimous hate? Okay, I went to the website and flipped through some of the things in it. You're a typical teenage girl. You follow others' lead, even if you don't realize it. You're very pretty and are probably a wonderful person under all that hate, self-consciousness, and general need. I'm not going to Dr. Laura you, but I really think you're a gem. And you need to realize that yourself before others can say the same.

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So you put your poetry where anyone could find it (that being online), and then get upset when someone reads and comments on it? If you're that concious about criticism, you should reconsider putting yourself in the open to be commented on.

Mabye you haven't noticed, but the group dynamic of these forums involves most of the people here making fun of each other. There's no psychological BS involving making ourselves "better" than each other, we just make friendly jabs at each other with the understanding that we don't mean anything personally offensive by it. The only times we actually insult people here are when they're too uptight about themselves to take a joke, or if they're just acting plain stupid.

And about LadyJ... I know you may not believe this, but she is/was actually being very easy on you. You may not believe this, but *I* am being very easy on you too. Stop talking bad about yourself. Don't say "I'm going to change" or "I'm trying to change..." Just make the change and stop talking about it. Don't appologize for how you're acting, just let it pass and don't mention it. And don't try to take everything everyone says as a horrible insult.


Great minds think similar, it seems.

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Mediocrity at its most average.

11-14-01 6:00am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
Stripcreator Newbie

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I believe the Americans have a saying- "Shut up and deal".

There do seem to be a whole lot of angsty teens around just now, with all the nu-metal nonsense going about. I think half of them just get themselves into these moods because Manson/ Slipknot/ Papa Roach or whoever tell them to.

11-14-01 6:00am (new)
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attitudechicka
is never bored.

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Oh ho ho.

I cant think of 4 harsher people to judge this (maybe the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse).

I shall enjoy the next few weeks.


Thanks for going along with the idea, sweetheart. I was hoping to make this fair for everyone.

*big hugs*

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Mediocrity at its most average.

11-14-01 6:26am (new)
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kaufman
Director of Cats

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Well, not quite -- one of the side effects of being "different", and a lot of us here are, is that you're still misunderstood by the "mundanes" well past your teens. And I've been depressed (with cause) as recently as last week.

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ken.kaufman@gmail.com

11-14-01 6:38am (new)
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