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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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I wanna make mouseover events change an area plus make another area of the $%^$ page change. onclick should send the user to another web page. What the $%$$ am I supposed to do? Am I on the right track with image maps? I also tried Java script mouseovers. If I could understand enough of the code HomeSite and Mouseover Button Wizard create I might be able to tweak it, but I suck. My mouseover images aren't loading on top of the big image. Is that in-forking-possible? Do I need to chop up the image in a table?

HELP!

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3-18-02 10:33pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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I wanna make mouseover events change an area plus make another area of the $%^$ page change. onclick should send the user to another web page. What the $%$$ am I supposed to do? Am I on the right track with image maps? I also tried Java script mouseovers. If I could understand enough of the code HomeSite and Mouseover Button Wizard create I might be able to tweak it, but I suck. My mouseover images aren't loading on top of the big image. Is that in-forking-possible? Do I need to chop up the image in a table?

HELP!


I'm not quite familiar with image maps, but I may be able to help. What's your code look like?

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3-18-02 10:50pm (new)
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lara7
Jimmy Carter says YES!

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As Mrs. Kraboppel once said " There's nothing wrong with "enbiggins". It's a perfectly cromulent word"

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3-18-02 11:00pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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As Mrs. Kraboppel once said " There's nothing wrong with "enbiggins". It's a perfectly cromulent word"


Everything I know I learned from the Simpsons.

And LSD. Lots of LSD.

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3-18-02 11:08pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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The code looks like streaming.. well... see for yourself.
http://home.earthlink.net/~hkranch/

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3-18-02 11:12pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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The code looks like streaming.. well... see for yourself.
http://home.earthlink.net/~hkranch/


Well, I'm a bit too tanked on margaritas to be much help, but I'm fairly sure you need to follow "new Image" with empty parentheses (e.g. "name0a=new Image();name0a.src="images/iab.gif";"). Functions in Javascript always require at least an empty set of parentheses, even if you are not passing any variables to the function. (Creating instances of an object, like "image," are functions.)

You need to pass only one variable (to replace imgName) to the "lighten" and "darken" functions as written. I see one case (Button Number 1) where you pass multiple variables to the lighten function. Also, it looks like you're sending "name0" to the functions when you're image objects are actually called "name0a," "name0b," etc.

Then again, I'm fairly toasted at this point...

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3-18-02 11:53pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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By the way, with what programming languages are you familiar? I might get a better idea of what you're trying to do if I knew from what programming language you were trying to adapt code, but then again, probably not.

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3-18-02 11:59pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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I have gotten a lot of useful information out of http://www.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/3.0/handbook/javascript/. Some of the javascript code given there is Netscape-specific, however. I also use http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/script56/html/js56jsoriJScript.asp but Microsoft does a much shittier job of explaining things. If you want to develop cross-browser code, as it looks like you are trying to do, you might want to check out the links here. I haven't bothered with the cross-browser stuff much yet (I develop stuff for MS Internet Explorer users and it took a while before I discovered there was a difference) but I have found the "Dynamic Duo" site to be helpful in explaining the difference (basically it has to do with the differing Document Object Models employed by Microsoft and Netscape). Also, I have been getting a lot of help from http://www.w3schools.com/ lately. That site has the best examples (including ones where you can play with the script and view the results) I have seen in any developer help site, but it is a bit less complete than the other resources mentioned above.

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3-19-02 12:13am (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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I don't know much about HTML, but I was under the impression that you can't do rollovers with an image map. Rollovers can only change whole images (substituting one for another) but not a fragment of an image, such as an area on an image map. If you want to have changeable rollover states on different parts of an image, you're going to have to cut the image up into pieces and put those pieces in a table.

Quentin (aka OgO) my housemate just told me you could do it with an image map, but it would be stupid. You would have to make several different versions of your big mapped image, one for each rollover state. You could then program each area in the image map to subtitute one of these different versions. This would be incredibly inefficient, though...

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3-19-02 1:07am (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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Another way would be to cut up the image into pieces and then use "DHTML" (actually, it's just CSS plus Javascript) to to turn it into something like an image map. Once you cut up the image you can use "div" tags and set style attributes to reassemble the image and then use onmouseover events for each div block. Not really knowing how to use image maps, that's how I would go about it. However, I know that with image maps you can define circles or other shapes within the image map. DHTML would limit you to rectangles, as far as I know (which is not far).

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3-19-02 1:19am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Spankling, the question is why you'd want to do that.

OK, OK. Here's a page that does what you describe. The function swapImage is a common one yanked from the net somewhere, and preload is an important function, too. Without it, the browser waits for the mouseover event to load the swapped image, which results in a weird delay and very non-intuitive navigating.

I believe Dexx is right when he says an imagemap won't do it, but if you're good with tables, you can assemble multiple images to look like one, which is the same thing really.

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3-19-02 8:00am (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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You are all gents of hire caliber! And wirthling, I take back everything gabe ever said about you. Except that you suck.

Thanks for the pokes and direction all.

I actually only know HTML and css crap. I've fucked with other people's java before but this was getting over my head.

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3-19-02 6:39pm (new)
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fuzzyman
Alpha Geek

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By the way, to generate the simple type of mouseover effects, I just go here:

http://wsabstract.com/mousewhipper/

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

3-19-02 7:05pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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I can use my l33t Flash skillz to do all this shit. Plus I can shoot laserz out my eyez. (Using a 'z' instead of an 's' is l33t.)

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3-21-02 12:42pm (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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We all missed a very important anniversary, and we should all be very ashamed.

On the 17th of March 2001, Gabe started this thread. This thread is one fucking year old! If any proof were still needed of the colossal nature of Gabe, this has to be it.

Unbelievable... I never thought it would last this long.

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3-22-02 6:57am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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Strange how when I clicked to read this thread right now, I clicked the title, instead of the last page as I usually do, then I noticed "Holy Shit, this thread started a year ago", and I went to the last page and lo and behold, DexX (who's post I was going to read in the first place) had already pointed it out.

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3-22-02 7:25am (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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The only reason I looked there was because I am doing a strip series that required me to check the number of comics reached by various regulars. Page one of the colossal geek thread was the obvious place to look for a post from Gabe. Ironically, Gabe didn't end up making it into the series. Kaufman took the honours with his total of 694 - the highest on the site, as far as I know.

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3-22-02 7:50am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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I've made 376 comics altogether, between various accounts, Geniu$, Mr_Kidney, Thread_Nazi, Mystery_Ninja, and about 7 more as part of a short-lived joint troll effort.

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3-22-02 12:18pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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http://home.earthlink.net/~hkranch/index.htm

I think I'm getting the hang of it! Now if I could just design a page with decent content.

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3-22-02 3:32pm (new)
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fuzzyman
Alpha Geek

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Speaks for itself.

http://www.sensuousliquidlatex.com/prod08.htm

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

3-22-02 7:13pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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I'm okay with the product. I can see they are working to satisty a specific nitch.

But why the animated blood rule!?!

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

3-22-02 8:33pm (new)
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fuzzyman
Alpha Geek

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Satisfy a specific nitch? Or notch?

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

3-22-02 8:44pm (new)
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Bazilla
Comic Overlord

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For people that want the definition of irony:

The world's leading expert on road safety has been knocked down by a bus and
killed.

Susie Stevens, 36, died as she ran across the road during a break in a
conference on how to cut road deaths in America. Friends and fellow
campaigners were stunned by the savage irony of the tragedy.

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3-26-02 12:21pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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For people that want the definition of irony:

The world's leading expert on road safety has been knocked down by a bus and
killed.

Susie Stevens, 36, died as she ran across the road during a break in a
conference on how to cut road deaths in America. Friends and fellow
campaigners were stunned by the savage irony of the tragedy.


Sounds like an urban legend. What the hell does "world's leading expert on road safety" mean? Even if this person did die as reported, I would bet the "world's leading expert" part is added on to increase the irony quotient.

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3-26-02 12:58pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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For people that want the definition of irony:

The world's leading expert on road safety has been knocked down by a bus and
killed.

Susie Stevens, 36, died as she ran across the road during a break in a
conference on how to cut road deaths in America. Friends and fellow
campaigners were stunned by the savage irony of the tragedy.


Sounds like an urban legend. What the hell does "world's leading expert on road safety" mean? Even if this person did die as reported, I would bet the "world's leading expert" part is added on to increase the irony quotient.


A bit of research shows that Baz just screwed up the details. Susie Stephens was a bicycling advocate and considered one of the leading experts on bicycle and pedestrian safety. She was crossing an intersection when a bus driver, who did not see her, made a left and ran her over.

It's not an urban legend, but it still bugs me when people embellish a true story to heighten the drama or irony or whatever.

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3-26-02 1:12pm (new)
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