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JrnymnNate
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PS : How is having a Christian Fundamentalist with the worlds largest arsenal of weapons any less scary than having a Muslim Fundamentalist with a fraction of those weapons, when both are more than happy to use them on anyone who gets in their way?

A true christian fundamentalist believes in a few little things called virtues and ethics.

12-11-03 2:42pm (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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I like cheese.

12-11-03 2:55pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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What kind of cheese?

12-11-03 4:32pm (new)
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niteowl
Level 1 Forum Troll

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Are you saying.... you're him??


:O

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12-11-03 4:45pm (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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Why, all kinds!

12-11-03 8:16pm (new)
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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
Bean There, Done That

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A true christian fundamentalist believes in a few little things called virtues and ethics.

A True christian fundamentalist would have a group of 12 advisors and would be spending a fortune inventing technology that allowed him to walk on water.

A Christian Fundamentalist that chooses only select areas of the Bible and Christianity in order to further his own reasoning (in EXACTLY the same way that Muslim extremists only believe specific passages from the Qu'ran in order to justify their beliefs) is one of the most scary things in history.

No US President in the last 100 years has been as "Deeply Religious" as Bush. Were talking about a guy here who is a reformed alcoholic "Because God showed me the way".

He scares the shit out of me. And the fact he doesnt scare the shit out of his own people tells me theres far too many sheep in his country.

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12-13-03 11:44am (new)
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not_Scyess
not laughing with you

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And then there's the thing where if a group of people has different beliefs or opinions than you, they're "sheep."

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12-14-03 1:37am (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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Shut up, idiot. I bet you still believe in God.

12-14-03 6:44am (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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What he said.

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12-14-03 7:03am (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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The more I think about this, the more beautifully ironic it becomes. It's basically saying, "If people don't feel how I do, they're sheep."

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12-14-03 7:13am (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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Baaaaaa baaaaa baaaa, baaaa baa baaaaa baaaaaa. Baaa baaaaa baaa, "Baaaaa baaaa, baaaaa baaaaa."


Hmmmm.

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12-14-03 10:29am (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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Baaaaaa baaaaa baaaa, baaaa baa baaaaa baaaaaa. Baaa baaaaa baaa, "Baaaaa baaaa, baaaaa baaaaa."


Hmmmm.


Ah, what do you know. You suck.

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12-14-03 10:47am (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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It's nice to see Christian fundamentalism included in the "idiots" thread now.

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12-14-03 3:38pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Bush refused to even meet with the elders of his own church in the months leading up to the war. The United Council of Churches finally aired a TV spot in which Bishop Melvin Talbert, of the United Methodist Church-- George W. Bush's church-- said going to war against Iraq "violates God's law and the teachings of Jesus Christ."

That is how religious George W. Bush is.

I remember seeing this ad and picking my jaw up off the floor.

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12-14-03 9:39pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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notice i didn't say bush was a true christian fundamentalist.

if he was, he'd believe in hell and the fact that those who are not reached by the gospel go there.

12-14-03 9:51pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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A god punishing people for eternity for not propagating his own message well enough. Makes perfect sense to me!

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12-14-03 10:18pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Makk's got a point there. So does Nate. Well, they're both masks of the almighty, so what the hey.

In the short run, though, I think we all see through GWB's show of piety. That's important.

Another important thing is that sometimes we all make a show of piety. It's vanity, or it's hubris, and we're all guilty of it. Let's just keep it in mind. I know I do it, and I'm sorry to whomever it offends. That includes you, Makk and Nate.

I'm in a contrite mood. Enjoy it while it lasts. I'm likely to wax wroth again any second now. It's unbecoming, but I'm only human.

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12-16-03 1:50pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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In all fairness I think most recovering alcoholics have to turn to god, if you are going through the 12 step program.

Saying god bless at the end of speeches doesn't really get my biscuits as much as it seem to bother other people. I'd be more offended if he didn't want god to bless me, whether or not we are of the same faith.

If he were REALLY going by the book, wouldn't he have forgiven Osama, or even turned the other cheek? Oh wait, that wouldn't make sense. Like literally interpretting a lot of other things in the Bible doesn't make sense.

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12-16-03 2:25pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I don't think we're obliged to forgive Osama unless he repents.

As far as turning to God, I don't know. I think a lot of God, but I think most of all it's a mystery. When I really get this, I feel smarter than when I think I know.

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12-16-03 3:53pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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What I mean is, I think God is a problematic idea. What do we mean by it? If we can't say what we mean by it, how can we say that we believe in it? Even "belief" is problematic. Does "belief" mean we have a high degree of confidence in some proposition? Or is it more like "faith," which implies that our confidence remains no matter the evidence to the contrary? These are questions I'd be interested in discussing with Nate, and possibly Makk also, if he is serious and isn't just using the issue to bait me on my alcoholism.

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12-18-03 12:20pm (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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I don't really know what to do about the God idea. I've always been more inclined to believe in a pantheon of gods. What appeals to me about that is that there are no absolute representations of things. Sure, there might be a god of love, a god of war, etc., but there are no gods of GOOD and EVIL like in most major religions. The pantheonic theology is usually rife with gods capable of good AND evil. They seemed so much more HUMAN. You can say that it is to the detriment of that particular theology, but I find it explains the condition of the world a hell of a lot better than the idea of one benevolent God and a malevolent Devil. I was raised Roman Catholic, but I am much more inclined to believe that if there IS only one God, he is not a nice God, and he is capable of both kindness and cruelty.

I consider myself quite open-minded when it comes to religion, but I fully reject the idea of institutionalized goddery.

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12-18-03 12:36pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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No I really was just commenting on Bush recovering from drinking. Also I don't care to talk about God.

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12-18-03 4:40pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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When we say "God", typicaly people mean a higher being or source of power beyond average means. Something that is completly distinguished from us in its characteristics of ability and awareness.

You can't. I think people who do this are simple and following a trend - just like those who say "I love impressionism" but couldn't tell you what it was or who did it. It's fashionable to be "spiritual" nowadays.

Are we talking about semantics now? I think beliefs are what they are. I believe I have a hand. I can feel it, when i sit on the hand it gets numb, I can bash it against the desk and feel the pain from the nerves inside of it. Similarly I can see a clock across my room, so I'm pretty sure its there. For now lets leave things at that and not delve into "the matrix philosophy" which I completely despise, that is, doubt of the senses.

Belief in something that is intangeble is no more radical than awarance of the obvious. After all, I have never been to Mount Everest. I hear its big, and I've seen pictures(representations) of it, heard testemonials(forgive the corney language), and I understand that I can go there and touch it. So I believe in it based on what I understand about it.

As far as evidence to the contrary goes(and I won't nitpick about "what evidence"), faith is, as the bible says, the evidence of things unseen. It is the internal drive which carries us past doubts and allows us to continue to believe in the illogical. This is not only applicable to a spiritual perspective, after all, many had to have faith to see things inconciveable at the time through, such as Orvile Wright, Charles Babbage, Thomas Eddison, etc. All created things that were rightly labeled preposterous before their time. Yet all came to pass.

12-18-03 9:58pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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That's an interesting and thoughtful response. I'll need to think about it some. I apologize in advance in advance if I just just blow it off, but I hope I'll find time to actually address it. Thanks though.

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12-19-03 12:27am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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Nate, that response was SOOOO much better than the ones I am used to seeing from you in this category. I am very glad, actually, that you can present your case in such a manner. It is a far cry from the inclusive attitude you've had in the past. As long as you understand that some people interpret the Bible a lot differently (for radical evidence of this, look up the Black Israelites) than others, and that no one interpretation is necessarily the right one as long as people all keep spiritual in their own way. I really think you've grown here.

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12-19-03 8:19am (new)
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