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he looks like a monkey! aHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA yay!

5-02-02 3:29pm (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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Ha, ha!

What the fuck are you talking about?

5-02-02 5:00pm (new)
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dcomposed
C3H5N3O9

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*loads rifle*

you've got untill the count of 3 to fuck off.....

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5-02-02 10:20pm (new)
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DH-01
Stripcreator Regular

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RARRR! 10-HD WILL CRITICAL HIT YOU!

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5-03-02 3:58am (new)
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fuzzyman
Alpha Geek

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Not to mention, his comics are crap.

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5-03-02 4:18am (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Here's my opinion of Eminem...

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5-03-02 5:38am (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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Red X?

5-03-02 7:07am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
Stripcreator Newbie

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Eminem's a good rapper, but I think he suffers because of his contrived need to be controversial.

5-03-02 8:17am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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Definitely, he's quite funny, but really, Gangster Rap was better when 2-Pac was bangin' B.I.G.'s wife and Eazy E was stopping Dre making any albums.

That was TRUE rivalry, not this crap about him slagging Britney Spears and taking Ecstacy on stage, who cares? About the most controversial thing he has done is pulled a gun on the Insane Clown Posse, who are really a hell of a lot more experienced at shock tactics than he is, I've lost interest in Eminem over the past year or so, maybe even grown to hate the little prick.

but then, maybe that's the whole point.

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5-03-02 11:15am (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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A Word About Gangsta Rap:

*ahem*

1): Nobody named Marshall Mathers III will ever have any street cred.

2): Rap was the last of attempts of the black man to "hang on to his music" by resorting to tuneless, loud, talent-less yelling about how violent and dangerous they are over small loops of other people's music. It worked. White people like melody and largely disdain reveling in violent and illegal behaviour.

3): "Good rapper" is an oxymoron. As a form, rap hit it's own wall the second it was invented.

4): "Rap music" is an oxymoron. It's an art form. It's not music, though.

5): The whole purpose of rap is to give kids something to defend from "the man" when it is, inevitably, pronounced utter shit by almost everybody over 30. Then the kid can smirk and say "You don't GET it, maaan!". We get it fine.

6): Eminem is a middle class twat. Most white rappers are.

7): "White rapper" is an oxymoron.

8): Trying to bring down the cultural wall that divides white audiences and performers from participating in the rap "scene" is stupid. This isn't the 50's or even the 60's. They don't want the white kids in the rap "scene". They don't want a crossover market. They want the ofays to fuck off and dig how slick and dangerous all of those gun-toting, crack smoking, bitch slapping brothers are.

9): Somewhere, way down deep inside of your lily-white ass, lies a small part of you that longs to listen to the Carpenters on a rainy Saturday afternoon and sip tea. It's true.

10): My name is, my name is, my name is NOT Marshall Mathers III.

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5-03-02 11:37am (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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I agree with some of that, but I think much of it is too much of a generalization.

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5-03-02 12:09pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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Actually, no, I'm a really big fan of rap music, or "Hip-Hop", it takes a hell of a lot of skill to lay down some "kick ass rhymes" over a "fat ass beat". Granted, Eminem is just a skinny white kid who whines on and on about how he's going to kick everyone's ass and kill them eventually. Some deep psychological probing would probably prove that he has an underlying Aeodopus complex. Or that he was caught masturbating as a teenager, I dunno, I never took Psychology.

Anyway, I think it's a bit much to generalise ALL "rap" music by your feelings towards one rapper. I'm not sure that you and Mr Mathers are that different. If you put your rant over a beat you'd be the exact same, middle class white guy, whining about a world he doesn't fit into.

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5-03-02 12:14pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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Well, yeah... but you can't stir up shit with a fine-toothed comb, yo.

:- )

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5-03-02 12:15pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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Not hardly.

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

5-03-02 12:17pm (new)
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Tobor
Pink Donkey Wrangler

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TOBOR GIVE EMININEM DEEP PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBE!

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RAAARRR!!!

5-03-02 12:23pm (new)
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DrPedantic
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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It's Oedipus you fucking MORON!

Why don't you go back to smoking DexX's tiny Australian cock and leave the rest of us to have a decent, intellictual conversation!

ass!

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5-03-02 12:33pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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OK, OK already! Quit nagging me! Here's a line-by-line response:

1): Nobody named Marshall Mathers III will ever have any street cred.

Nobody who has "street cred" uses their real names. Their real names are usually something like "Gordon" or "Doug." Chuck D's real name is Carlton Ridenhour and Flavor Flav's real name is William Drayton.

2): Rap was the last of attempts of the black man to "hang on to his music" by resorting to tuneless, loud, talent-less yelling about how violent and dangerous they are over small loops of other people's music. It worked. White people like melody and largely disdain reveling in violent and illegal behaviour.

That's a gross oversimplification of what rap is. There is a lot of tuneless rap, but there is also a lot of melodic rap and not all of it is sampled. I'll leave that last comment about 'what white people are like' alone. That deserves a lengthy response on its own.

3): "Good rapper" is an oxymoron. As a form, rap hit it's own wall the second it was invented.

I'll agree that there are a lot of talentless rappers out there, but there are several good rappers, too. It's a difficult skill and even more difficult to do while delivering a coherent message.

4): "Rap music" is an oxymoron. It's an art form. It's not music, though.

It's not music to you. "Music" is a highly subjective experience. Plus, there is a lot of variety in the "rap" genre (Ugh--I hate talking about genres) and quite a lot of it is composed, contains melodies, and can be performed live. Is that not music? I am pleased to see that you at least consider it an "art form" for the moment, though.

5): The whole purpose of rap is to give kids something to defend from "the man" when it is, inevitably, pronounced utter shit by almost everybody over 30. Then the kid can smirk and say "You don't GET it, maaan!". We get it fine.

That's just silly.

6): Eminem is a middle class twat. Most white rappers are.

I pretty much agree with this.

7): "White rapper" is an oxymoron.

Is there a "rapping gene" that whites don't possess?

8): Trying to bring down the cultural wall that divides white audiences and performers from participating in the rap "scene" is stupid. This isn't the 50's or even the 60's. They don't want the white kids in the rap "scene". They don't want a crossover market. They want the ofays to fuck off and dig how slick and dangerous all of those gun-toting, crack smoking, bitch slapping brothers are.

This is only true for a minority of rap acts. Few rappers are racial segregationists.

9): Somewhere, way down deep inside of your lily-white ass, lies a small part of you that longs to listen to the Carpenters on a rainy Saturday afternoon and sip tea. It's true.

Busted.

10): My name is, my name is, my name is NOT Marshall Mathers III.

I'd like to see some ID please.

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5-03-02 12:34pm (new)
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adarer
Stripcreator Newbie

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me comics are not crap! they are original! like the 1st one i made! like fudge that banana! fudge that banana!

5-03-02 12:57pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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Wow, I thought this whole "rap isn't real music" argument was resolved ten years ago with everyone agreeing that musical taste is entirely subjective. It's like this thread is some sort of retro argument bubble in the hip hop space time continuum.

I like to hang out in aboriginal villages and diss their atonal rhythmic drum dances as "not real music" because of the lack of electric guitar and verse-chorus structure. Just because they all enjoy it tremendously, that doesn't mean they're not all mistaken.

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5-03-02 1:00pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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OK, OK already! Quit nagging me! Here's a line-by-line response:

1): Nobody named Marshall Mathers III will ever have any street cred.

Nobody who has "street cred" uses their real names. Their real names are usually something like "Gordon" or "Doug." Chuck D's real name is Carlton Ridenhour and Flavor Flav's real name is William Drayton.

Think about that.

2): Rap was the last of attempts of the black man to "hang on to his music" by resorting to tuneless, loud, talent-less yelling about how violent and dangerous they are over small loops of other people's music. It worked. White people like melody and largely disdain reveling in violent and illegal behaviour.

That's a gross oversimplification of what rap is. There is a lot of tuneless rap, but there is also a lot of melodic rap and not all of it is sampled. I'll leave that last comment about 'what white people are like' alone. That deserves a lengthy response on its own.

I forgot. It's only racism if a white guy says it. It's not that great of an over-simplification at all. And it's startlingly, even to me, accurate.

3): "Good rapper" is an oxymoron. As a form, rap hit it's own wall the second it was invented.

I'll agree that there are a lot of talentless rappers out there, but there are several good rappers, too. It's a difficult skill and even more difficult to do while delivering a coherent message.

The title was "A Word About Gangsta Rap".

4): "Rap music" is an oxymoron. It's an art form. It's not music, though.

It's not music to you. "Music" is a highly subjective experience.

So's sex, but i doesn't come on 5 1/4" metalicized discs. It's also not something that promotes violence as cool. Unless you're into S&M. The whole notion of tribal music, as opposed to formally structured music, is relatively new to Caucasian culture. Enter rock and roll. It saved my life. Gangsta rap alienates. It doesn't unify.

Plus, there is a lot of variety in the "rap" genre (Ugh--I hate talking about genres) and quite a lot of it is composed, contains melodies, and can be performed live. Is that not music? I am pleased to see that you at least consider it an "art form" for the moment, though.

I'm deeply moved.

5): The whole purpose of rap is to give kids something to defend from "the man" when it is, inevitably, pronounced utter shit by almost everybody over 30. Then the kid can smirk and say "You don't GET it, maaan!". We get it fine.

That's just silly.

Are you smirking? :- )

6): Eminem is a middle class twat. Most white rappers are.

I pretty much agree with this.

As you should.

7): "White rapper" is an oxymoron.

Is there a "rapping gene" that whites don't possess?

Yes.

8): Trying to bring down the cultural wall that divides white audiences and performers from participating in the rap "scene" is stupid. This isn't the 50's or even the 60's. They don't want the white kids in the rap "scene". They don't want a crossover market. They want the ofays to fuck off and dig how slick and dangerous all of those gun-toting, crack smoking, bitch slapping brothers are.

This is only true for a minority of rap acts. Few rappers are racial segregationists.

See you at the next Wu Tang show, bro.

9): Somewhere, way down deep inside of your lily-white ass, lies a small part of you that longs to listen to the Carpenters on a rainy Saturday afternoon and sip tea. It's true.

Busted.

Word.

10): My name is, my name is, my name is NOT Marshall Mathers III.

I'd like to see some ID please.

No.


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5-03-02 1:08pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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You dissin' retro, man?

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5-03-02 1:10pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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I don't care about Eminem. But I don't know what the world's coming to when people log in as DrPedantic to correct their own mistakes.

5-03-02 1:10pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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I know you started that whole thing with "A word about gangsta rap," but then it seemed you were talking about rap in general. Were you only referring to gangsta rap in each of those comments?

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5-03-02 1:13pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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Yes.

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5-03-02 1:15pm (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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And where the hell did that come from? Racism is racism. Period. Please don't mistake me for some mythical liberal you're arguing against.

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5-03-02 1:16pm (new)
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