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SmokeyMcPot
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My comics rule.

7-27-02 9:27am (new)
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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
Bean There, Done That

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Christ , i havent seen anything this shit since my ex fiance tried to write a comic.

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7-27-02 9:56am (new)
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Bazilla
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Rule what excatly?

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7-27-02 1:01pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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Let's have a link, then.

7-27-02 5:22pm (new)
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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
Bean There, Done That

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Let's have a link, then.


It wasnt on here. She fancied herself as an Artist when we were going out , and created lots of comic strips featuring characters which looked suspiciously like the ones from Gary Larson's "The Far Side".

Suffice to say i said they were brilliant while we were going out.

And i admitted i though they were a pile of dog excrement after we broke up.

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7-27-02 5:41pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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I bet one of the reasons she broke up with you is that she sensed your lack of sincerity.

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7-28-02 12:51pm (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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She just couldn't get used to Perm dressing up as Jessica Rabbit during sex.

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7-28-02 1:24pm (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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And I thought I was the only one who did that.

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7-28-02 2:07pm (new)
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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
Bean There, Done That

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I think the fact that they werent very good , and even if id spent my life savings on getting them published and praised by every critic in the world , shed still have known deep down that they werent very good , and me saying they were was quite obviously a lie.

Was more appropriate.

BTW LadyJ , do i strike you as an insincere person?

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7-28-02 5:32pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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KKP has been living a lie. He's really welsh, and 0_Entropy is his son.

What? I heard he was insincere.

7-28-02 7:19pm (new)
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itsclark
Bar Room Superman

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That makes sense. Nobody would admit to being Welsh.

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7-28-02 7:25pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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I dunno, I've never given your sincerity much thought. I just know that when I ask my significant other his or her opinion about something I've produced, I'd love to hear that it's brilliant if it's brilliant, but I'd much rather hear carefully worded constructive criticism than get sunshine blown up my ass because my lover is too much of a wuss to share an opinion.

If I ask my S.O. if what I'm about to wear in public is unflattering (notice that I didn't say "does it make me look fat?" That's a bogus, loaded question.), I would rather hear, "maybe a darker top?" than, "You look beautiful, dear. Can we go now?"

Perhaps I'm just weird.

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7-29-02 5:35am (new)
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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
Bean There, Done That

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I dunno, I've never given your sincerity much thought. I just know that when I ask my significant other his or her opinion about something I've produced, I'd love to hear that it's brilliant if it's brilliant, but I'd much rather hear carefully worded constructive criticism than get sunshine blown up my ass because my lover is too much of a wuss to share an opinion.

If I ask my S.O. if what I'm about to wear in public is unflattering (notice that I didn't say "does it make me look fat?" That's a bogus, loaded question.), I would rather hear, "maybe a darker top?" than, "You look beautiful, dear. Can we go now?"

Perhaps I'm just weird.


My "Significant Other" at the time was a 15 stone , ginger student nurse from a family with a history of Alcoholism, which she seemed hell bent on keeping intact.

The fact the relationship lasted beyond a week is testament to the fact that i can put someone at ease in a conversation, whether it be through anecdotes on life, or through blatant lying such as "Youre not fat , i wouldnt go out with a fat girl" , or "Yes , sex with you is great".

The relationship broke down because she had a one night stand when she was drunk , and convinced herself that the guy in question was obviously more worthwhile than me because he had a job with the government.

You know that guy who comes up with "I work for the foreign office , im really a kinda spy" line.

It worked on her. I ended the relationship. Needless to say he dumped her less than a week later when he went back on manouevers (He was actually a squaddie with delusions of grandeur).

I dont regret the relationship LadyJ , not for one minute. As i see it , the relationship worked for as long as it did because i , as you put it , "Didnt have the balls to tell her what i really thought" , and instead chose to build her self confidence , which im sure youll agree ,a lot of larger women simply dont have.

Suffice to say that i havent dated a larger woman since , because i honestly dont want another relationship where all i do is constantly reassure my other half.

And if this makes me insincere , so be it.

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7-29-02 6:52am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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One of my best friends ever was a well-known writer of a genre of fiction that I pretty much can't stand. I recall opening one of her books and being immediately struck by a certain expository cliche that I won't go into here. The rest of the book followed along similar lines. But she was absolutely one of my favorite people ever, and when she got married and moved away, I cried for months. Off and on, that is. Not constantly.

But the point is we never discussed what I thought of her work. She was a professional, and she had editors and fans and critics, and I wasn't any of those. That's why I was her friend.

My ex-wife, on the other hand, faults me for not being more "supportive" of her own creative enterprises. I don't think it's fair to say I wasn't supportive. I just never said a whole lot about her efforts. If she wrote a song, I'd play it, or if she drew something, I'd hang it on the wall or put it on a t-shirt, but I was pretty mum about the quality of it. That's because I loved her and so couldn't really have an "opinion" of her work. I don't think she understood that. I think she saw my neutrality as disapproval.

To my creative and artistically-minded loved ones, I'd say: "I'm not your critic or your editor or your fan. I'm your friend. So let's not put your work between us." I think the professionals understand that.

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7-29-02 8:26am (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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I love you, man.

PS - Your comics suck ass.

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7-29-02 8:47am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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And your comics give off visible stink waves.

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7-29-02 8:52am (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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What if your significant other is a wurzel named Brian?

Not that mine is.

7-29-02 8:54am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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Lying, or omitting the complete truth is, in my opinion, one of the most important things to do in order to keep a relationship going.

A relationship based completely on truth and having no secrets is either a lie itself, or a healthy marriage.

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7-29-02 11:12am (new)
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boorite
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Lying, or omitting the complete truth is, in my opinion, one of the most important things to do in order to keep a relationship going.

You're so handsome.

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7-29-02 1:59pm (new)
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pita
La fille qui a joué avec le feu

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My ex-wife, on the other hand, faults me for not being more "supportive" of her own creative enterprises... but I was pretty mum about the quality of it. That's because I loved her and so couldn't really have an "opinion" of her work. I don't think she understood that. I think she saw my neutrality as disapproval.

To my creative and artistically-minded loved ones, I'd say: "I'm not your critic or your editor or your fan. I'm your friend. So let's not put your work between us." I think the professionals understand that.


Boorite, I can understand bowing out or remaining neutral if you don't think it's a good idea to express your opinions. But I don't understand you thinking that you "couldn't really have an opinion of her work" because you loved her. Isn't there some kind of happy middle-ground somewhere that you could express your opinions to your loved ones without making them feel bad? Like ladyJ said, constructive criticism. It's a lot of work, granted, to learn to do it without hurting them, but they'd appreciate the truth so much more. Maybe she had doubts and needed reassurance. Nothing wrong with that, we all need reassurance sometimes.

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Lying, or omitting the complete truth is, in my opinion, one of the most important things to do in order to keep a relationship going.
A relationship based completely on truth and having no secrets is either a lie itself, or a healthy marriage.
Kajun, you aren't married, are you? I try very hard not to lie to my loved ones, ever. I don't always tell the entire truth if I know it will hurt them, but I would be terribly hurt if lied to. I would feel as though the person lying to me made a fool of me. Treat others the way you'd like to be treated.

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7-29-02 2:40pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Boorite, I can understand bowing out or remaining neutral if you don't think it's a good idea to express your opinions. But I don't understand you thinking that you "couldn't really have an opinion of her work" because you loved her. Isn't there some kind of happy middle-ground somewhere that you could express your opinions to your loved ones without making them feel bad?

Nope! The "opinion" of a loved one is worthless or worse. That's the first thing you learn. And an artist or craftsperson really shouldn't look for "reassurance" from spouses or friends, not in the sense of criticism. Maybe in the general sense of "I believe in you and will help you mat and frame this stuff and take it to the show." But I don't think there's such a thing as "constructive criticism" between intimates. And again, it's not a matter of thinking it's a good or bad idea to express your opinion. It's a matter of whether you can even have an opinion, given your bias, being close to the artist.

I do think you can comment about what you see as your friend's strengths, like, "I've noticed you have an ear for semantic disjunction" or some such, and then encourage him based on that. But no good comes from saying "I like/don't like" some particular work. At least, I don't see the point.

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7-29-02 3:20pm (new)
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itsclark
Bar Room Superman

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I think all this discussion about honesty and relationships is distracting us from the larger issue of whether SmokeyMcPot rules.

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7-29-02 3:24pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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Suffice to say that i havent dated a larger woman since , because i honestly dont want another relationship where all i do is constantly reassure my other half.

Oh... I see. You didn't tell me that she was fat. Well. That explains it, then.

I'm going to follow the advice that's been given and refrain from sharing my opinions in this thread any more.

(I haven't hit backspace during the composition of a post this much since... jeez. I can't remember. My finger hurts.)

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7-29-02 3:31pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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You needn't type what we're all thinking.

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7-29-02 3:53pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I think all this discussion about honesty and relationships is distracting us from the larger issue of whether SmokeyMcPot rules.

He fucking rules!

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7-29-02 4:00pm (new)
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