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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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About 20 minutes ago. I didn't even see it coming. I did nothing to deserve it. So that's why I made this picture for that dirty cunt who beat me up today.

I hate violence. Only idiots use violence to solve conflicts. I never got beaten up before....it hurts!
and i got my first black eye too.
Now....DISCUSS HOW STUPID VIOLENT PEOPLE ARE!!!!....and where i can buy a good baseball bat....
F.Y.I. I could of beaten up that guy if i felt like it.

9-16-03 1:16pm (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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Some fights are worth fighting.

Even if you're anti-violence, there are times when NOT fighting betrays who you are more than fighting does.

It doesn't matter if you win. Winning means shit all. What matters is not backing down from what you believe in - and this sometimes means fighting and sticking to your belief regardless of how the fight turns out.

I'm not saying this is one of those times. You know more about the situation than I do. I'm just saying, from our IRC convo, you seem to be an anti-violence absolutist, and in my opinion that's not the way to go.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

9-16-03 3:02pm (new)
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Inflatable_Man
Heart stopper. Hip hopper. Pill popper.

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Boinky...

As we speak, I am using a oujui board to summon the rotting corpse of Burgess Meredith (or Rocky fame) to rise from the grave and train you.

For several months you will train in a meat locker (beating an entirely different kind of meat from what you're used to), and then you will face this commie in mother Russia where you will have to win over the soulless ruskie crowd and single handedly win the cold war in a boxing arena.

Good luck.

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9-16-03 6:13pm (new)
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choadwarrior
Crash Magnet

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I'm truly sorry to hear that, Boinky.

If it happens again, there is no point in escalating a fight; just defend yourself as best you can and take any reasonable measures to end it as quickly as possible.

I'm intimately involved with school safety and deal with issues like this regularly. Hopefully my Canadian counterparts take matters like this as seriously as we do down here (even if it happened off campus) and you have support from your parents, school and local police.

9-16-03 6:25pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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or you can bring a gun to school and blow them all away.

JUST KIDDING.

9-16-03 7:37pm (new)
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dcomposed
C3H5N3O9

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I like fighting and I like losing. But boinky does not so this does not = hdb!

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9-16-03 9:00pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Even I say you gotta do what you think is right, and usually defending yourself and others is right.

...

I just deleted a few portraits of me on a soapbox. I better stop now before I hop onto another. some other time purhaps.

Chin up, boinks.

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9-16-03 9:06pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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You're right about violence, boinky. I've basically got nothing to add to or take away from what you said about it. Me, my own self, I learned enough Kung Fu to not get hit, but never enough to hit, not in any serious way. Blocking and dodging are can't-lose propositions. Hitting is risky on so many levels.

I've been roughed up before, and it bothered me a lot. A lot, a lot. It should bother you. So! No need to worry.

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9-17-03 8:52am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I should add that for a while I carried a handgun. I needed to because of the nature and location of my work. On a couple of occasions, I got ready to use it, and I would have, if it had proved necessary. I'm glad it didn't, and I hated going everywhere with a thing that can kill a person, and I changed my life so that I could be in a place where handguns weren't needed, and I got rid of them. Violence just sucks. Oh, how eloquent! But it's true. Just the presence of it in your mind puts you too close to your inner Hyde. No good, no good at all. Boinky seems to know it! I wish I had been that smart at his age.

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9-17-03 9:26am (new)
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umfumdisi
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I've only been in one fight in my life.

I started a new school in a rural area in Tennessee after moving from Pennsylvania. This short, wiry kid who lived on the same mountain road as I did didn't like me because of my accent. One day he said, "We're gonna meet in the circle after school." I responded, "Whatever."

As I was waiting in line for the bus (which his dad drove), he came up and said, "Let's fight." "Why," I tried to ask. Before the syllable was out of my mouth, however, he'd dropped down to the ground on his back and kicked me in the stomach with his cowboy boots!

He ran onto the bus before I could recover my breath.

A few days later we were playing basketball in gym class. He was on the opposing team. I waited for my chance and fouled him extra hard. He fell and banged his head on the court.

I had to sit out the rest of the games, but he never bothered me again.

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9-17-03 9:38am (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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Violence does suck. I wish we lived in a world where it didn't exist.

Unfortunately, we don't.

Is it okay to use violence to defend yourself from some asshole that just coldclocked you out of the blue?

Is it okay to use violence to defend your family from an intruder?

Hell yes.

To see things any differently is to not understand the darker parts of how the world works. What's worse, it means you have no defense againt them.

Never be the aggressor. But be able and willing to defend yourself.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

9-17-03 10:15am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Yeah, I agree. It's just that taking a swing puts you out there to get hit. Very risky. It's a matter of, how much do you need to get mixed up in this? How much can you afford? How much force is necessary to stop the other guy from hurting you? You don't hold back because of altruism. You do it out of self interest.

I'm not a pacifist. If a speed freak comes at you with a meat axe, I say blow him away. But you'll have a bit of a mess on your hands, and really it's best to avoid it, if possible.

Does a guy who tries to punch me in the face deserve to get a punch in the face? Certainly! But I would not like to be the guy who gives it to him. It skins my knuckles. It puts me in punching range. One day, he'll get what's coming to him. Just let me get out of there without the aid of cops or lawyers or doctors. I don't like the vehicles with whirling lights on top.

If you have to, you have to. But you don't usually have to.

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9-17-03 10:46am (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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I think boink does it out of altruism though. He says he's a big guy and strong but doesn't want to fight because he doesn't want to become one of those assholes that are the aggressors.

My whole point was don't be an aggressor, but be able to defender yourself from the asshole agressors of the world.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

9-17-03 10:55am (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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I just should of yelled "I have an erection!"

9-17-03 11:38am (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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And pray that doesn't increase his enthusiasm.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

9-17-03 12:04pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I had a friend whose Most Embarrassing Moment came when he was assaulted by some bully. Panicking, my friend searched for something to say to defuse the situation. His brain gave him: "You have pretty eyes." He just blurted out "you have pretty eyes." I don't remember whether or not the guy proceeded to beat him up.

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9-17-03 12:32pm (new)
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jes_lawson
I don't know what I'm doing either

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Getting beaten up sucks. Being stabbed is not fun either. Thank God I've never been shot. Snapping my elbow ligaments while trying to be clever during aikido was the worst though. That *stung*.

I can't really add anything more to what's been said by Inflatable Man, boorite, umfum and the rest, but as a guy who gets the crap knocked out of him on a regular basis voluntarily (and I'm not talking in an S&M way here) as long as you are alive then trust us, don't be freaked out by a black eye, it's nothing compared to some of the messed-up things that can happen to you on the street.

You're a man now, Boinky (that sentence doesn't look right)

Besides, you can always learn brickido, I'm sure Boorite could send you a booklet on it.

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9-17-03 7:12pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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aikido roxors

9-17-03 10:40pm (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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It's not violence that bothers me, it's aggression. A battle between two mutually respecting parties, I have no qualms with. But when some guy comes up to you and tries to fight you because you pissed him off, it's just stupid. Violence doesn't solve problems, it just acts to stimulate the differences between people who have differences already. A honorable battle is nothing to scoff at, and sometimes violence is needed for survival. Look in the animal kingdom, violence everywhere. Though, most of the time, it's some big animal with pointy bits attacking a small animal with fluffy bits.
Human violence, on the other hand, is fairly unneccesary, save for a fight with someone you respect and simply wish to test yourself against.
Certainly there are better ways of dealing with self-worth issues, but when one's own self-worth relies heavily on physical prowess rather than mental abilities, one must fight in order to test one's merit.
I know it all sounds like crap, especially to the nonviolents in the crowd, but I personally think every action has a place. Take rape for example (quiet your groans and listen dammit!). I think a proper punishment for a child molester or rapist is to get a little of the old "in-out" in prison. Hourly.
All I'm saying is that what happened to Boinky was stupid, even though I'm a chaotic person, and believe in a rightful place for violence. That was most likely NOT a rightful place.
Then again, me punching some little asswipe at work because he won't shut up and annoys the entire crew isn't a rightful place for violence either. Doesn't mean I don't want to do it. But I don't, because: 1. I fear the consequences of those actions, and B. It's not worth it, and my better judgment tells me that he's not going to improve just because I bloodied his face.
Anyway, hope all heals well, Boinkster. Maybe you should start packing some pepper spray. That's not violent! Though, it may cause more harm to your assailant than just laying him flat...
Oh well, back to the drawing board.
Oh, and check out my new comics. They aren't teh sukc.

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9-18-03 8:46am (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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Odd. The topic of fighting just cropped up in my life, too. A friend of mine threw a pretty big party at his house, and due to it's proximity to the local college, we started getting people walking in off the street. ($5 for all you can drink is a strong pull.)

Somewhere around two in the morning, things started to go sour. Small scuffles started to pop up, and as I'd had the stupidity to stay sober, I ended up trying to get the groups of troublemakers to leave.

In the middle of shuffling half a dozen people out of his house, I came back to find an even bigger fight had taken place while I was gone. Two of my friends were gushing blood and the only thing stopping one of them from chasing down and killing his attacker was the three or four people sitting on him trying to calm him down.

Over the next couple days at work, the big fight was all we talked about, and how much we wanted to find the guys that started it and do unspeakable things to them.

But the more I thought about it, the less sense it made. I wasn't sure that giving someone else a beatdown would have made anything better.

To this day I still haven't been in any sort of fight. I've never thrown a punch or had one thrown at me. I'm not sure how I escaped the earlier part of my life without it. I'm guessing that in the last ten years or so it's been due to the fact that I rarely go to places where one is likely to get into a fight (bars, sporting events, etc.) and also that I'm bigger than most people and scary looking.

Whatever the case, I'm pretty glad it hasn't happened and I hope I can make it through the rest of my life unscathed. 'Cause fighting is pretty weak, and I say if you can avoid it, more power to you.

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9-18-03 8:54am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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You certainly are imposing.

And sexy.

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9-18-03 9:41am (new)
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umfumdisi
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It's amazing how violence often originates from feelings of insecurity on the part of the violator.

In other news, VIOLENCE is part of the theme to my latest CD Swap effort (track list at bottom of the page). And in light of recent events, Uncle Tupelo's "Black Eye" is now Boinky's theme song.

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9-18-03 1:59pm (new)
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umfumdisi
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"Language of Violence" is an excellent song from The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy's only regular-issue release, Hipocrisy Is The Greatest Luxury (1992).

Part of the lyrics go (this is from memory, but I think it's pretty close):

"Dehumanizing the victim makes things simpler.
It's like breathing with a respirator.
It eases the conscience of even the most
Conscious and calculating violator."

Michael Franti of the Beatnuts was the main man behind DHOH.

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9-18-03 2:13pm (new)
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pita
La fille qui a joué avec le feu

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Who the hell is gabe_billings? All these new people around here!

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9-18-03 5:31pm (new)
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crabby
I have an awesome avatar.

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Who wouldn't kill for a slap in the face from Gabe's man fist?

9-18-03 6:42pm (new)
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