Pete Rose is a bad man, but a great baseball player. Why he's a great baseball player is obvious. Why he's a bad man may not be.

He's selfish.

He cares about Pete Rose first and foremost. In fact, I don't think he cares about anything else. Even his admitting he bet on baseball isn't real contrition. It's motivated, as are all things with him, by self-interest. He admitted it so he could be allowed in the hall, allowed to manage in baseball, and, probably mostly, to publicize his new book he wants to make millions off of.

The question is, should he be allowed in the hall? I believe he should. The hall should have as its requirement that you were a great player, not that you were a great man. So then the question becomes, should he be allowed to manage big league baseball? I say HELL NO. The guy's obviously motivated by self-interest, and letting him back into baseball would hurt the game more than it helps it. I'm not even talking gambling here (though I don't put that past him). I'm talking about him capitalizing on MLB to its detriment. How he'd do it (stealing memorobilia, receiving kickbacks), I don't know, but I see it as probable that he'll find a way. Especially after the luster and hype of him being reinstated wears off.

So - yes to hall, no to reinstatement. But, from what I can tell, here's the problem - in order to be eligible for the hall, you must be reinstated. It's a package deal. He either has to be kept out of the hall and not reinstated, or become eligible for the hall and be allowed to manage (should any team be dumb enough to hire him).

I hope Selig changes that rule. I hope he becomes eligible for the hall but NOT reinstated. But if that doesn't happen, I'm not sure which I'd prefer. I'd probably want him to become eligible for the hall anyway, even if it meant reinstatment, and hope that no one in baseball is dumb enough to hire him. That's probably a foolish hope though, because no matter what he's done in the past, or what kind of man he is, he'll put people in the seats. And that's all most owners care about.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

Pete Rose is Brad.

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

So who's Kaiser SÅ’Ze?

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Please replace the handset, and try again.

Wait... Pete Rose=knkx... :O

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Poop.

Wait... Pete Rose=knkx... :O

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Poop.

I agree with everything Obi said.

Rose is an greedy, self-serving dick. But he was also great player, and that should be the reason for his induction. Too bad he had to be such an asshole and not admit the gambling right away, he would've been inducted already.

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Think classy, you'll be classy.

Spankling.

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I agree with everything Obi said.

Rose is an greedy, self-serving dick. But he was also great player, and that should be the reason for his induction. Too bad he had to be such an asshole and not admit the gambling right away, he would've been inducted already.

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I want to swat a ball with a stick and have people unload dumptrucks full of money at my feet.
Where do I apply?

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I was gonna send a robot back in time, but I got high.

Spankling.

By the way, Peate Rose is a tool and gives bad head. A. Bartlett Giamatti is a personal hero of mine.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

Mark Prior's doorstep.

They had this kickass batting cage outside of the hall of fame when I visited 15 or so years ago. The machines there not only threw fastballs, there were some that threw curveballs, some that threw changeups, some splitters, etc.

It was a humbling experience.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

"Mark Prior's doorstep" = where do I apply, not pete rose gives bad head.

Though he does.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

Duh.

I do agree on the issue before the board though. Hall of Fame - Yes, Reinstatment - No.

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The machines there not only threw fastballs, there were some that threw curveballs, some that threw changeups, some splitters, etc.

It was a humbling experience.

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AAAH!

NOOOO!!! NOT BOMBARDMENT WITH THE SENIORS!!

GAH! GUH! OH GOD MY SPLEEN! THE PAIN!! THE HUMILIATION!! THE ANAL LEA-

Oh, oh man. Oh, that was scary.

Fucking flashbacks man!

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

Who shot who in the what now?

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I was gonna send a robot back in time, but I got high.

Duh!! Ignore that last post. I am borderline retarded before my morning caffeine infusion.

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I was gonna send a robot back in time, but I got high.

The Hall of Fame is for baseball achievements. Pete Rose has some. End of story.

Zaster, change your forum comment! You can be soooo much more than a member of the Tobor Fan Club!

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

Pete Rose should definetly be in the HOF. However, he must be first be forced to get a decent haircut. Seriously, did the tennie bopper at Super Cuts use a shard of glass to cut that thing?

The hair came with the face.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

h4w

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h4w

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

Pete Rose the guy in the chicken costume?

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Batman created by Bob Kane

YES!

Not that what I think matters, but I don't think Pete Rose should get into the Hall of Fame until Shoeless Joe Jackson does.

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