There is something satisfying in bumping to some loud ass music when you're rolling down the road. It just makes you feel good.

Really? It always makes me feel like smashing some cunts subs. But that could just be me.

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Poop.

Hi, I hate you. You make my rearview mirror vibrate so I think I'm having a migraine and my head buzz like I just got smacked.

Just wait until you are 40 and deaf. I am totally going to be talking about you behind your back.. LOUD.

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dcomposed:11-06-05: If I was a viking invading your village, you'd be the first to get raped.
Crabby: 10/5/06: i would love to feed you fresh fruit while bathing you.

Haha... good stuff.

Rap sucks my anus, and does a pretty good job of it too

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I dumb :D

Strangely enough, I had a very similar conversation with a classmate with rather eclectic musical tastes. He stated something to the effect that music falls into two camps: the 'narrative' (subject-development-conclusion, e.g. classical, pop, ballads), and the 'modular' (built of repeating recorded elements), i.e. hiphop, aleatoric, 20th-century etc. Because hiphop has such a fundamentally different structure, he listens for different elements within it (so I gathered).

The dictum '95% of everything is shit' holds true in all categories of music. Even someone as averse to hip hop as I was partially converted when introduced to the right groups.

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If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing.

I have very eclectic tastes in music, but I can't stand rap because I can't easily appreciate music, whether it be narrative or modular, that is little more than spoken word.

My thoughts on the stereotypical rap fan are mostly due to the fact that the assholes in Hondas blasting music are almost always playing rap. Once in a while I hear R&B or something else, but I can never really tell much, because all I hear is "BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM" and a lot of rattling.

I know those people aren't the only ones who like rap, but I find those specific people to be idiots. Have a little fucking respect for those around you, especially at night. Some people have enough on their minds without having to hear shit they don't like. Or feeling it, for that matter. So you spent $8,000 on your fucking speaker system. Good for you. You are officially an idiot. Don't shine your idiocy in my face while I'm driving. Take it to a car show where you can get into competitions over who spent the most money on a vehicle's audio system, thereby becoming the most obnoxious person at said car show.

But the ones who most make me embarassed to be a mammal are the morons who drive around downtown at midnight blasting the same generic sounding crap, wasting gas, and repeating the loop 50 times. They all seem to drive Hondas or another import with some really stupid looking piece of tinfoil sticking out of the back end making it look like a grocery cart. These guys have the window stickers saying "CONTAGIOUS" and so forth, the asian symbols they likely don't know the meaning of, the ground effects (illegal for aftermarket in California I may add), so much tinting no one will see who's driving (again, illegal for aftermarket in California), and once in a while, those stupid spinning rims. Those were weird the first time I saw them. The second time, they were stupid. Subsequently, they got more and more idiotic.

And someday, I want to find every truck and SUV that has installed those obnoxiously bright white lights, and smash them out. Some people want to see the road, idiots.

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

I have to agree with D/X on just about every one of those "luxuries" that seem to crop up on these overbearing shitty SUVs and what not. LOUD, LOUD music is inappropriate, what ever music it is, when it rattles the other person's car.

My system in my car is worth about 100 dollars. Altogether. So I won't be rattling anything other than my fillings when I crank it up.

People who drive around solely to blast music are idiots. That goes without saying.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

Hey now, a Merc isn't too shitty... like some rap. 2pac has a lot of good songs ya know. People prefer listening to music that they can relate to. Anyone that's grown up on the streets and has done hard drugs and committed crimes can relate to most rap songs because that's what most rap songs are about. Why do most people farms and such listen to country music? Country music is sung people who grew up in the country and such. Of course, i know black people who enjoy country and country folk who enjoy rap. I'm not gonna get all "indie rock" on people and hate them for the music they like.

Yeah, speaking of indie rock, folks who classify indie as a genre can chong a dong. Indie = independent, stupid. They're almost half as bad as the arthouse movie crowd. But we'll talk about that in another thread.

Rap, eh? It's ok. Most mainstream stuff is crap because it's liked by these horrible people who will criticize you and make fun of you for what you are... jocks, basically. Some local (Portland) rap is fantastic, though, straight from the lungs. I dig it.

Ok, not playing their own instruments? Has anyone seen a talented DJ spin? If that doesn't qualify as playing an instrument, then I will kill a koala. Also, try freestyling sometime, like Mikey said. It's easy to come up with rhymes, but try coming up with both meaningful and complicated rhymes that explore both lyrical and rhythmic possibilities in a fresh way.

So, instead of arguing over the merits of rap, let's ignore haters and throw out some good hip-hop recommendations. Dismissing an entire genre (hell, hip-hop is more than a genre by now) is lame and smacks of laziness on the part of the listener. I used to diss rap right up until someone made me sit down and listen to "Midnight Marauders" by A Tribe Called Quest. That did it for me.

So yeah: Tribe is great. So is Biggie. So is Talib Kweli. Mos Def. I just picked up "Madvillainy" by MF Doom and Madlib. It's an impressive work. They abandon conventional song structure and move about the tracks without regard for the "standard" length of a song.

To anyone that doesn't think Rap is intelligent: Go listen to Talib Kweli. The man is a social movement on his own. Oooh, and Immortal technique.

This isn't even beginning to touch on the DJ'ing aspect of Rap, which constitutes a whole other thing. Check out RJD2, DJ Logic, and DJ Shadow. I've seen them all live and they all are redefining things. Musical things.

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Sex Piano.

Anthrax "i'm the man" and "Bring the Noise" are the most awesome rap songs in the world. If rap Dj's had any balls they would do more songs like that.

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There was once a man who said:"nothing is true!". Although later it was found out that he was lying.

To paraphrase Sam Kinison:

"I bought a Rap tape the other day and listened to it. You want to have the same sort of experience? Take seven dollars out of your wallet and wipe it against your ass."

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

This is the hiphop CDs that are in my car at present:

Wu-Tang Clan: Enter the 36 chambers
I think kajun already pimped this but it can always be pimped again. Great album, great lyrics, and a hiphop classic.

Jurassic 5: Power in Numbers
A lot of hard core fans dismiss J5 because they're positive and versatile, but each other their albums get progressively better and this is a great follow up to Quality Control.

Akrobatik: Balance
If you know anything about hiphop, you're starting to see a trend to what kind of rappers I'm attracted to: intelligent, thought provoking, lyrically skilled, and positive. Akro is on the same vein. He's a guy who just wants to make old school style songs and go against the grain set by the bling-bling MCs.

A Night at the Hip-Hopera
A friend burned this mashup for me and it's not terrible. Some of it is down right brilliant but some of it sounds like trying to fit a round peg through a square hole. When I was young, they called them remixes, now they're mashups.

Dilated peoples: Expansion Team
More backpack carrying, college indy white kid embraced hiphop, but I'd put it against anything else being played today.

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Peeing sitting down is the gift you give yourself.

Jurassic 5 is always a win when it hits your radio.

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dcomposed:11-06-05: If I was a viking invading your village, you'd be the first to get raped.
Crabby: 10/5/06: i would love to feed you fresh fruit while bathing you.

Trippingbillee hit the nail on the head.

Taleb Kweli, Mos Def, Dead Prez, and even Bone Thugs & Harmony have some great shit.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I love it when people say they like every kind of music but opera and rap. Oh yeah? Got any Burmese folk music on your iPod? Shut the hell up then.

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What others say about boorite!

That falls under the umbrella of "folk music".

Which falls under the larger umbrella of "music".

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I don't care what folding implement it falls under. They don't listen to it.

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What others say about boorite!

I don't like what rap has become and it's not because I'm becoming an old cremudgen. The self destructive culture that has attached itself to rap sucks ass. I agree that 90% of every genre sucks but I can just ignore all of the other crap. That 90% of bad rap is still thumping through my walls while I'm trying to watch a movie or sleep.

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-=- You eat one lousy foot and they call you a cannibal. What a world. -=-

Country music also. Everyone always says they hate country music. While I don't like 'pop' country of today, something deep down has to love Hank Williams and Patsy Cline and Willie Nelson and all those other hard drinking country folk.

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Peeing sitting down is the gift you give yourself.

Country has gotten too mainstream, the way most rap has become.

I used to own a Folk Music umbrella. It was stolen one day at the Rossini festival by a group of thugs who Rap-ped me on the head with some Heavy Metal. Luckily, they decided to Techno prisoners or else I probably would have been Kid-napped and driven down a Hard Rock road to their House surrounded by Bluegrass in the Country. Man, they Pop-ped me so bad that I partially lost my memory and lapsed into some Alternative reality where my Emo-tions were Punk-ed. Thankfully, I was restored to health by some Burmese folk. They rub a Dub-bed me with healing oils and all that Jazz. You guys might think I've Dance-d around the truth, but Disco-s to show just how dangerous a place the World can be.

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