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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Yeah, I think Howard Dean might drive the undecideds to the right, while Wesley Clark might capture some Republican defectors. Still, I don't think this poll is what Bush wanted for Christmas.

I don't think Dean has a fucking prayer. I hope they don't nominate him.

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11-02-03 3:09pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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The Bush administration is quietly beginning a public campaign to bring the draft boards back to life. How nice for all you pro-Bush pro-war young men.

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11-03-03 9:23pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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Good thing Salon Magazine has no idealogical bent to it.

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11-03-03 11:05pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Yes, we should recall "sending reluctant young men off to Vietnam" with the cold objectivity the subject warrants.

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11-04-03 8:34am (new)
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fuzzyman
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Yeah, I think Howard Dean might drive the undecideds to the right, while Wesley Clark might capture some Republican defectors. Still, I don't think this poll is what Bush wanted for Christmas.

I don't think Dean has a fucking prayer. I hope they don't nominate him.


I don't see how a guy who is for a balanced budget and endorsed by the NRA can drive undecideds to the right. And Dean's straight talk on Bush takes the wind out the sails of any Green candidate, which would have been the margin of victory in the last go around.

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11-04-03 11:09am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I don't see how a guy who is for a balanced budget and endorsed by the NRA can drive undecideds to the right.

Because Dean is a blue-blooded Park Avenue liberal who grew up summering in the Hamptons. The Bush camp is licking its chops at the prospect of a Dean nomination. Dean would have a hard time winning one state in the Midwest, much less the South.

Trust me: They are scared of Clark but not Dean.

BTW, traditionally Democrats have been the party of fiscal responsibility, and you can see what that did for them in 2000.

If you really like tough talk, have a look at Clark. Seems to me he's thinking like General Grant: swift action, crush the enemy. Dean seems mealy-mouthed and tentative by comparison, as far as I can tell. To my eyes, he just doesn't have that killer instinct we need. Too many years in Congress, I think.

But if Dean gets the nom, I'll go to work for him, and at least try to enjoy all the tearful hugs at HQ on election night.

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11-04-03 11:25am (new)
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fuzzyman
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You must be thinking of Gephardt. Dean was never in Congress. Dean has been successful partly because he has been using the most direct and straightforward language to point the evils of this administration. That's what got people so energized about him in the first place. Finally, a Democrat who will stand up to Bush instead of trying to be everything to everyone. It's not like Joe Trippi had a big Internet strategy. People found Dean, liked what he had to say, and the rest is history. Or will be.

Meetup is Wednesday night. You should go to one.

http://dean2004.meetup.com

Side note: My mother was recently admitted to the hospital with a form of bone cancer (treatable, but not curable). Amid all of this chaos, she remembers to ask for a freakin' absentee ballot for the local elections.

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11-04-03 11:39am (new)
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kaufman
Director of Cats

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For what it's worth, the Grant Presidency has gone down in history as horribly ineffective. You might want to find a different comparison.

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11-04-03 11:50am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I said General Grant, not President Grant. I was referring to his brilliance in the field. Which admittedly Clark does not seem to share. But I meant Grant's battle strategy was similar to Clark's political strategy. I swear the analogy maps. Here, let me illustrate using these fridge magnets. Let's say the left side is Grant and the right side is Clark. The banana magnets (1 each side) stand for military strategy, and the grape-bunch magnets (1 each side) stand for political strategy. Using this dry marker, I draw a line from Grant's banana to Clark's grapes, and from Clark's banana to Grant's grapes. See?

I might want to find a different comparison.

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11-04-03 1:04pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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You must be thinking of Gephardt. Dean was never in Congress.

Hahaha! Oops! I meant he, uh, must have, like gone in the Congress building, or... damn!

I knew Dean was governor of one of them little funny-shape states up there. I just had a braino. Like them times when I run the ball into the wrong end zone, what cause I got hit in the head.

Anyway, what's Dean say about adherence to international law versus the Bush doctrine? Does he talk about the ICJ? Gimme a url, because what I see on his site is the usual antagonistic generalities, all of which I agree with but fail to get fired up about.

And what about the fact that Dean can't win?

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11-04-03 1:16pm (new)
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fuzzyman
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Be that as it may, it was still a good description of Gephardt. :-)

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

11-04-03 6:10pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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WTF? A flash film.

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11-06-03 5:11am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Dig our "progress" in Iraq!

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11-07-03 9:06am (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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I am not delighted by soldiers dying.

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11-07-03 1:39pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Then stop being happy when they get sent off to die in ill-advised wars.

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11-07-03 9:40pm (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Terror Permit

Bush pushes jobs message: Job market continues to weaken.

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11-07-03 10:07pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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Them being sent off obviously doesn't make me happy either. Equating people that support the war with people who take joy in war is a convenient way of painting complex people and ideas in a color one can fit into his "I am right and you are wrong" mentality.

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11-08-03 2:05pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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You mean like this?

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11-08-03 4:09pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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Ih yeah, I forgot, I have to throw my lot in with anyone that holds up a sign.

Why did I ever agree to that.

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11-08-03 7:11pm (new)
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bunnerabb
Some bloke.

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Whence you throw your lot in is your business. I was simply demonstrating that squishing people who do not support this Goddamned, idiotic, pre-fabricated, bullshit war into one - ostensibly - unpatriotic group is a tactic that your side of the fence has been living and dying with for the whole of this misbegotten administration.

People who think that using human beings for cannon fodder, (in order to keep a pack of fat, grey, oil C.E.O.s eating caviar) is an activity that is beneath contempt, can be complex, too. You know?

I still get a lump in my throat on Veteran's Day. I still feel a mixture of pride and sadness when I see the simple rows of white headstones at Arlington.

When I read that the soldiers on watch at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, after being informed that they were excused from their duty due to the dangerous weather conditions brought on by hurricane Isabelle, refused to leave their posts. Posts that have been guarded 24 hours a day since 1930.

When they took the flag off of my father's funeral urn and folded it in that triangular, military fashion and passed it to my sister.

I really do love my country. That's why I'd like to see the pack of wolves, sitting at it's helm as I write this, tarred and feathered.

My old man, and countless thousands of others, fought in a war to keep a group of madmen from conquering the known world. To stop people who turned human beings into lampshades and quick lime mulch because they worshipped a god with a different name. People who systematically gassed and murdered innocent human beings, plundered the whole of Europe, and almost brought the Western world to it's knees with sheer brutality.

This... war we have, and the administration that fabricated it, is an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the dignity and bravery of every soldier who ever laid down his life to keep alive the idea that man should be governed by law and have freedom of choice as to whom they will allow to govern them.

It's a sucker's game with a lot of Johnny-come-lately flag waving, woohoo idiots barking at anything they are told is "the enemy."

And for that, Mssr's. Bush, Cheney and company can kiss my fat white ass.

You may not like that that quasi-literate, sign waving dumbass in the photograph, but be that as it may; he is the epitome of the front man for your team.

But enough of this... What do you say we get a six pack and go beat the shit out of some protestors?

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11-09-03 6:15am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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I don't delight in seeing our soldiers die either. That's half the point. I think Bush picked the wrong week to announce that the increase in guerrila attacks was a sign of progress. I guess he couldn't have known that this is the week they'd start picking off our helicopters, or that the Red Cross and UN, among others, would respond to his encouraging words by pulling their staff the hell out of the country. Anyway, it was a stupid and irresponsible statement, the kind of "bring it on" bullshit he deserves to have repeated to him every time the body count is notched up. Sure, bring it on. Dig our fucking "progress." What a dick our President is.

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11-09-03 8:26am (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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What bunn said. Ah-men

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11-09-03 9:34am (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Art by an ex-army man

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11-09-03 9:46am (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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I wasn't doing any flag waving, I just said it doesn't make me happy when they die.

Spankling's the one who lumped me into a group saying I was happy when they were shipped off to war. And then somehow he "agreed" with you when you said I was part of a group lumping people into stereotypes.

Amen to your "me too" philosophy Spankling. Stunning. I cannot argue against it.

Why would I say that people who are not against the war might do so because of complex and human emotions and thoughts, and not assume the same about people who are against the war? Or can you not assume the same about me. In all seriousness, maybe you have the problem of acceptance. I don't run around saluting the flag or even stand up during the national anthem. A funny picture you dig up on the internet doesn't make someone the "front man for my team". That's how you want to picture someone who has a differing idea because it's easier than confronting the fact they might have an intelligent rational behind it. It's just easier to turn off your brain and go "Hurr hurr, he like the man in the picture! Look!"

boorite I think Bush almost had a good statement but managed to say it in a very course way open for too much bad interpretation. He could have said or meant something like that as we engage the roots of terrorism more, we will be engaged by the enemy more, and these are unfortunate casualties in battles we are winning. I think he should stick with his script writers.

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11-09-03 12:06pm (new)
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Spankling
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Good. That will cut down on stuff I don't have time to read.

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11-09-03 3:58pm (new)
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