"I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record."

Damn, I do so hate it when they prove BEFORE they are elected that they are criminals, rather than waiting until AFTER they're in a seat of power to prove it...

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

But everything that come's out of Bush's mouth is propaganda, in one form or another.

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

MaKK, any opinion, or even fact, that tries to sway someone's opinion is propaganda. Hell, even Noam Chomsky, who has an encyclopedic mind when it comes to factual political information, considers himself a propagandist. Hell, MaKK, YOU are a propagandist. As am I for that matter. So what was your point?

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

Calling everything propaganda doesn't make it so.

If something inspires debate it's not propaganda.

If it's all one-sided, warped, masked, white-washed and cleverly edited it probably is.

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Actually, try looking up propaganda in the dictionary. No, wait, I'll do it for you:

propaganda

n : information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause

OR

prop·a·gan·da ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prp-gnd)
n.
1.The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2.Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause ie: wartime propaganda.
3.Propaganda, Roman Catholic Church.
A division of the Roman Curia that has authority in the matter of preaching the gospel, of establishing the Church in non-Christian countries, and of administering Church missions in territories where there is no properly organized hierarchy.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

Ok, tell me how I have been propagandising, and how Spankling is not.

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Do you happen to realize you asked a question that I had PREVIOUSLY answered....in THIS THREAD? I never said Spankling wasn't speaking propaganda. I never said I myself was not propagandizing. Where are you from, anyway? I hate having to make people look stupid, especially when they do it so comprehensively themselves.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I was saying if something is used as a point of debate I don't consider that propagandising. If you just declare something and ignore any dialogue about it I consider that propagandising and nothing better than background noise. I'm sorry you need to refer to Webster's dictionary to have a conversation, I understand why such limitations make you so frustrated, though.

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When I was a kid, we used to live on a small side street that abutted a main throughfare, only a few doors from our home.

The main street had a smattering of three storey buildings, blocks of flats, commercial establishments, etc... that were all built of either brick or stone.

The neighbours across the street owned a dog that was kept outside most of the time, and - especially when things got quiet - it would bark incessantly. The reason for the animal's constant yapping was simply that; after it would bark, it would hear the echo of it's own bark off of one of the walls of the highly reflective buildings nearby, and then bark back at the echo.

It would bark at the echoes of it's own, annoying yelps until it got too hoarse to go on, or just simply fell asleep.

And it never learned any better.

Actually, I think the poor, lonely thing sort of enjoyed it.

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

I thought you were leaving this thread forever.

This is clearly marked, if you don't want to participate, don't read and post to the thread.

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It doesn't matter what YOU consider propagandizing. Are you now calling the dictionary a liar? It's funny, because you seem to harbor some sort of stigma against dictionaries, otherwise you would have not accused me of referring to one. Which is an accusation I have yet to find any real value in. Okay, you got me. I used a dictionary! Fuck! My entire argument is invalid now! Damn! I shouldn't have tried to show that definition. What was I thinking? Reference? Research? Pah! That's for losers! Next time, I'll stay ignorant. Then maybe MaKK will like me better. Hey, do me a favor, MaKK, while you're fucking off, try getting a clue in the process.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I'm not disseminating prepared material or advocating someone's doctrine. I'm discussing my reasonings for a point of view that I don't care if someone else adopts. I don't consider that propraganda. Spankling clearly posts prepared materials and doesn't seem to have an interest in dialogue. I'm sure at least that last list of his was from a mass email. I don't mass-propagate my view points, nor do I draw from mass communications to form them.

Please tell me how I am mistaken instead of responding with righteous indignation and I will consider your point of view.

Why is it people who work at libraries are so bitter when their problems can't be solved using a dictionary?

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Why is it people who work at libraries are so bitter when their problems can't be solved using a dictionary?

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That's mighty helpful of you, MikeyG.

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Oops I mean boorite.

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Spoken like a real American.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

I'm going to have to thank both Spankling and boorite for advocating RESEARCH. Once again, MaKK, it all comes back to how much you care about the truth. And is there a moderator that can solve this confusion over boorite and myself? It seems rather lame that this argument is sidelined by an insecure jackass' belief that maybe there ARE more than one or two lucid individuals who oppose his views. And that's not to say that Spankling isn't lucid. I believe he is more looséd, perhaps, but he is lucid as well.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I don't see how looking up a word and then distorting its definition is research (or advancing the cause of lucidity).

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Makk doesn't actually believe I'm you, MikeyG. He just keeps saying it. I'm sure he thinks it's just a joke. I think it's a little malicious. But really only a little. What did we expect from the Evil Clown?

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What others say about boorite!

Aaaah, I see. My judgement on MaKK's intentions was clouded by my distortion of the word I looked up. What does that mean, MaKK? I have always known what the word propaganda meant, but I posted it here to show YOU what it means. You had a misinformed opinion of what the word meant, and the definition was quite explicit. Yet you still stick with what YOUR assumption of the word means. The proof was there, and you ignore it, and attempt to discredit me for even putting the proof there in the first place. As I said, it's that kind of thinking, or non-thinking, I should say, that is hurting this great country.

So tell me, exactly, MaKK, how I distorted the definition of the word when the Webster's Friggin' Dictionary definition supports my statement? Do I need to post the Oxford, Roget's, and Encarta definition for it, too?

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I am not disseminating propaganda when I am just writing my opinions. I have stated before that I am not for a ceratin party, supporting the President, or even supporting how we got into the war. But I do think we need to stay and that there are reasons we got into this war other than WMD, whether or not you think they are legitimate. That's not propaganda, that's dialogue. Posting a list of reasons "Why Bush is Dum" is propaganda.

You're only allowed to split hairs and define words as they suit your purpose if you are a) an Oxford graduate b) testifying to a Grand Jury c) Bill Clinton

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Are you sure you're not Dr. Pedantic? Propaganda was not defined here to suit my purpose. It was the universally accepted definition that I used. YOU are defining it in a way that suits YOUR purpose. ANYTHING someone says, whether they are a member of a party of 5000 or a party of ONE, with the implicit purpose of innfluencing someone else's opinion, especially in a PUBLIC forum, is defined as propaganda. When you and your significant other are arguing, and they make their case, you could technically call it propaganda. Would I? Not unless I was really, really mad at her. (That was an attempt at humor) But you, MaKK, and I are debating in a forum, where other people can read, about POLITICS. BOTH of us are propagandizing.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

Not really. And now you are just nit-picking. Or propagandising for your doctrine of a loose definition of propaganda.

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Splitting hairs? Nitpicking? It's waaaaay past your bedtime, MaKKie boy. Why don't you answer one question:
Where are you from?

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

I am kind of sleepy now that you mention it.

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