It would be a pretty fucking light snack.

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He was counterterrorism czar until two months after 9/11. On that day, Condoleeza Rice said Clarke was the crisis manager and asked him what to do.

Rice answered Clarke's charges by saying he "doesn't know what he's talking about." That's at least calling him ignorant.

That's the Bushie pattern: If someone criticizes you, attack his credibility. As he said, you're either with "us" or with the terrorists.

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On 9/11 that is.

So he went from go-to guy to "he doesn't know what he's talking about," "he was out of the loop" [Cheney], etc., after he publicly criticized Bush. Funny.

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Like I said I there's a difference between counter terrorism measures and war planning. Also I still say: fat lot of good Clarke did preventing 9-11.

But Clarke wasn't attacking Bush's credibility? Whatever, boorite. "This is just like Bush, to defend his own actions when attacked. God what a monster."

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I really thought Clarke was kind of a non-issue, but since you want to keep bringing him up here's a very good article in the Village Voice:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0413/smith.php

A reporter -a Democrat- wrote in essence a "good riddance" piece after Clarke left his post, quite some time ago (about a year ago). The article ressurfaced as part of an effort to debunk Clarke's book-promoting claims, and immediately the author, George Smith, was attacked by his fellow left-wingers, who didn't bother to check to see if the article was maybe written BEFORE Clarke's publicity stunt (and of course even bothering to check to see if any of it was not untrue is something you can assume they cared nothing about also).

Here are some pretty good quotes from the story:

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I'd written many columns about Clarke since 1998, all uniformly scornful and critical of his obsession with cyberterror. He bequeathed the nation a haystack of quotes leading idiots to believe terrorists were going to devastate us through computer networks. That, and a claim that the Freedom of Information Act was a legal impediment to the sharing of information, in need of an alteration to fix it.

No one had been particularly interested in what I'd written back then.

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I think MaKK is trying to filibuster us. I don't know where he gets time time and energy for such long posts.

I'm not a Clarke fan or detractor. I just think his story is yet another confirmation about what we've known about Bush all along. It's not a startling revelation, after all... he just fleshes out the details.

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Yes. And of course I didn't say Bush and co. were monsters for defending themselves against Clarke's and O'Neill's allegations. I said it was funny how they did it. Two different statements. But leave it to MakK to engage arguments that don't exist.

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I know you didn't call him a monster, I just think you're making a non-point.

Also in regards to fuzzyman that last post didn't take too long, most of it was copying and pasting. Give the article a read though, it's pretty interesting.

Frankly I just think the Clarke issue is boring and ho-hum. Really I don't think Bush did anything special right after 9-11, any president acting competently would have done the same thing, and honestly I don't think a president before him could have stopped it.

I do think if you are of the mindset that the president must be blamed, I think you have to blame Clinton as well. Like I said I just flat out think you can't blame them.

If a president was a complete pacifist after 9-11, refused to go into Afghanistan, and refused to crack down on the airline industry, then the 9-11 commission might be something other than a political sideshow.

If someone has a reason the commission actually is interesting, let me know, I'd like to hear it.

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Actually, I've never criticized Bush for how he handled Afghanistan after 9-11. I think it is one of the precious few things he's done right.

Dept of Homeland Security, Patriot Act... one can debate whether they were good ideas or implemented well. Tom Ridge seems like a competent person. John Ashcroft is a bible-thumping nutjob.

And the war in Iraq... has nothing to do with fighting terrorism.

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I heard Kerry on the radio this morning saying that Bush administration policy was driving gasoline prices toward $3 a gallon. I think that's a bit of a distortion. The average gallon of gas costs $1.77 right now. In 2004 dollars, it's not even close to the $2.35 figure we hit in 1980.

Gas prices have gone up, and so it's technically true that they're headed toward $3. Hell, why not say they're headed toward $4, or $50?

I'm not looking forward to this campaign.

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BTW I think cheap gas is kind of a shitty issue to run on.

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I'm almost tempted to vote for Kerry because he banged Dana Delaney.

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Yes it's pretty stupid to run on gas prices months before the campaign. What happens when gas prices go down again? (As they always do).

Makes you wish Bartlet could run for a third term doesn't it.

Wait that is just TV. Did anyone see the West Wing last night that was shot like a PBS documentary? That was a pretty good one.

I think you can argue you could fight terrorism in different ways than going to war with Iraq, but you could link it with some terrorism issues (independent of claims that Iraq is now "over run" with Al-Qaeda foreign nationals). For instance you could take it from the stand point of making an example of leaders who are openly hostile to the U.S., something we sorely needed to do after Mullah Omar melted into a mountainside somewhere (either literally or figuratively). Tony Blair walking side-by-side with Gaddafi? That had some kind of relationship to Saddam being captured. I'm conceding that you could argue the war on terror could have been handled in different or even better ways than going to war with Iraq, so I think you can admit going to war in Iraq has SOMETHING to do with the war on terror.

In any event I see it as a war on America's enemies. It isn't a war on terrorism, a war on WMD, a guerilla war, etc., it's just a war. Terrorism is definitely a big issue there now that the main war is over, I don't think you can ignore the fact that us leaving without setting up a functioning government will leave Iraq will great odds of fostering terrorism (even if it's our own "fault" for ousting Saddam). My point of view is that this is not a tragic unforseen consequence of the war, just a part that was undersold to the American public. Every big nation stomped in a war in recent history set up guerilla brigades to strike at the occupying powers that moved in, as sort of a murder-suicide last stab at the enemy (Hitler, Japan, etc).

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I wonder if OPEC is trying to unseat Bush by cutting production and driving up gas prices.

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He did? Shit, some guys have all the luck.

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Heh, hurry up and check out today's "Sean Hannity" show. I think it's freaking hillarious for the first couple hours.

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I'd rather scrub my eyeballs with pumice stone.

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Politics.

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This is an offtopic story, and proof that there is a conservative media.

My sister was watching a Vh1 special called, "The Top 10 Hottest Single Ladies." Who was one of the women? Condelizza Rice. If you can honestly be attracted to that horsefaced bitch, someone is paying you.

She's attractive for a politician.

Kerry:
NO ON VOTING REFORM!

NO TO AIDS RESEARCH!

SKULL AND BONES BUSH-WANNABE!

He'll send troops to war, but vote against funding them? Kerry: "Actually I voted for it, before I voted against it".

That's how you make a post in this topic, possums.

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You finally admit that about Bush?

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Kerry sucks, too. Bush sucks more. We know Bush is fucking evil. There's a chance Kerry might not be. I'll take that chance.

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I was talking about the funding request Bush himself made, Spankling.

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