I only idly read through this thread, because some of you tend to get longwinded and I lose interest. However this:

sparked my attention. The reason they never drafted women in the first place was to stay home and take care of the children and the home, correct? So my questions are:
A) Would you only be able to draft women who have no children?
B) Would you only be able to draft the woman of the household if the man is not drafted (or else who would be at home)?
What exactly is the idea here? Of course, on one hand, all these feminists should have been signing up for the draft long ago, but you rarely see them in the military, do you? No, they stay at home, with their hairy armpits, talking about how they don't have equal rights. On the other hand, I wouldn't sign up for the draft if they tried to force me. It's like lemmings, lining up just to jump off a cliff.

Bush never had my vote. I never vote for popular candidates, in case I want to complain about who won later. After all, I didn't vote them in.

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Mediocrity at its most average.

sparked my attention. The reason they never drafted women in the first place was to stay home and take care of the children and the home, correct?

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Probably more recently because it's far more politcally suicidal to be linked to images of your daughters getting butchered and coming home in boxes than your sons.

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And I am really going to have to go out on a limb and say that supplying weapons to anyone is pretty morally wrong. Especially to despots and dictators. Is that too much of a high ground?

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Again, the complexities are completely being white washed over. Saudi Arabia is an oppressive government. They are combatting Al-Qaeda. Of course we should support them.

Colombia has an oppressive government. They are fighting drug lords. Should we let the drug lords take over the government?

Do you isolate and not support all governments which we find oppressive? Because we've already established there isn't a lot of difference between giving them guns and giving them other kinds of aid. Other nations deal in weapons. North Korea, for example. Should we just let them buddy up with North Korea?

The problem with just isolating these countries under the rhetoric that they are "murderers" is that we would make enemies of them. Another problem is virtually every Arabic nation would qualify as an oppressive government. And it doesn't stop there. We would isolate a large part of the developing and third world. And countries which could claim the a higher protection of human rights than the U.S. could use the same justification to isolate America. If you are arguing that America should be completely and totally an isolationist nation, I'll accept the rest of your argument. I have my own problems with the scenario though, and I'm sure you do as well.

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Women in the draft? Don't think its safe for you to vote Bush, ladies.

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Yeah the best I can gather Spankling's conspiracy theories are just supposed to be inflammatory, that's why it got your attention. As much political suicide as the draft would be, for an administration that appeals to just "traditional" values, a draft that targetted women would be unimaginable.

Especially if you've drafted these people. There's a difference between signing up for the armed services voluntarily, and being forced to go. Unfortunately Spankling's alternate-universe scenarios don't apply to the president except with complete and total lunatics who believe he should be guilty of all potential actions taken by all potential Bushes in all potential universes.

In which case, congratulation to Bush for his Nobel Prize in chemistry!

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What about now Spankling? Michael Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt. You still "know they are evil"? You still "stand by it"?

For someone who thinks the left is trying to take care of the exploited, they sure seem to exploit their followers with fake stories, propaganda, and conspiracy theories. Don't you feel violated Spankling?

It's nice to know your role model is a fat slanderous money-grubbing fatso.

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What about now Spankling? Michael Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt. You still "know they are evil"? You still "stand by it"?

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Yes. Thanks for aksin.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

quote:

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Her job was to "make it hell" for Iraqi prisoners so they would talk, one of the six U.S. soldiers accused of prisoner abuse was quoted as saying on Friday.

The Washington Post reported that Spec. Sabrina Harman told it in e-mail interviews that detainees were handed over to her military police unit at the Abu Ghraib prison by military intelligence officers, or by civilian contractors who conducted interrogations.

She was assigned to break the detainees down for interrogation, Harman said in e-mails this week from Baghdad, the Post said on its Web site.

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Call me old-fashioned, but I think torture and breaking people down should be limited to free-willed consenting adults.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

Disney has and will continue to be evil. Walt Disney used to hire local thugs to beat the shit out of striking workers. Plus he loved hunting commies.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

And the bad part is..

So no response from Spankling about being fed a big giant publicity scam full of horseshit from Michael Moore? I like that after making money off of Columbine he's moved on to making money off of 9-11. A real champion!

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Your not knowing that disney is evil is even lamer than your not knowing that Bush is evil. There doesn't need to be a reply.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

Or evidence, apparently.

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I've been away a few days. Did someone mention politics?

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What others say about boorite!

So word is the coalition soldiers have been raping Iraqi children in between setting dogs on their captives. I wonder if they'll publish pictures of that!

Death penalty in Libya

What struck me about this was the Bulgarian parliamentary speaker saying that "Libya has not executed death sentences in nine years". Is this true? What kind of dictatorship is that meant to be? That's a better record than the US!

Yeah, what's up with that? Why does Lybia have such an image problem? Oh yeah the fucking PAN AM FLIGHT BOMBING.

I guess if you equate putting violent criminals to death with terrorism then you might have a point. Do you make that comparisson?

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You're right, at least America never does anything like that. Oh yeah SHOOTING DOWN THE FUCKING AIRBUS 300.

I don't know what you're talking about. Lybia actually accepted responsibility for the Pan Am bombing and reparations, it's not a conspiracy theory.

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Or evidence, apparently.

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Evidence abounds.

And why does it bother you that an entertainment figure yanked the media chain when Rove does it all the time?

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

Oh dear. You know what the Lockerbie bombing was allegedly retaliation for, right?

Thanks for telling me what I never denied.

Karl Rove doesn't pretend to be a righteous "friend of the common man", we all know what his job is. Michael Moore yanks your chain and you're too stupid to know it. "Oh god, he's totally getting those evil corporations." You know, because corporations are evil. Just because. They benefit absoultely no one and it's so ridiculous that people allow them to exist at all.

Nope. I didn't know you condemned governments on allegations, either. Hey I heard the Illuminati run the United States. Spooooky!!

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What color is the sky in your world mak?

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

Nope. I didn't know you condemned governments on allegations, either. Hey I heard the Illuminati run the United States. Spooooky!!

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Uh, the only "allegation" is that the bombing was retaliation for the downing of the airbus. It's undisputed that it happened. But you don't seem to be equipped to discuss it.

Oh yeah, it sounds like we were totally "asking for it".

Or this?

Yeah, sounds pretty malicious to me.

Well, in case you didn't know, and aren't well equipped to discuss it, Lybia DID admit to being at fault. Do you have information I don't about the U.S. admitting malicious intent in the downing of this aircraft?

Or are you just by default "more equipped" to see the truth (without evidence) somehow (just because you say so).

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The U.S. NEVER 'accidentally' destroys anything. We've never bombed a Chinese Embassy or anything by accident either.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

That's a joke right?

So based on that wild assumption, it'd be ok if one day the Chinese funded a terrorist to bomb of one of our embassies, because America never does anything "by accident"? IT WAS A FREAKING WAR.

Remember that spiffy on-board missile cam, of the missile flying right into a commuter train during that same war? Was that on purpose and part of our master design? That's the kind of attitude that hurts us more than anything overseas, and I thought it was limited to superstitious religious fanatics with a 9th century education. A road bomb blows up in Iraq, the U.S. could have stopped it, so we wanted it to happen. We accidently kill some Iraqi police with friendly fire, we do everything by design, so we did that on purpose. Heck, we let our soldiers DIE on purpose, otherwise people would start to get suspicious that we had invincible, super-soldiers.

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