C'mon, folks, it takes balls to admit that.

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Thank you.

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But the Palestinians presumably believe that Allah means for them to own the West Bank. Perhaps they're right and you're wrong!

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The thing that makes me most similar to them is that I also have total faith that what I believe is the truth and I'm right.

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Right, I know we've perhaps stopped talking about this, but I've got one question that's always bothered me about people who are absolutely certain of the existence of Heaven and Hell: why is it sad when people die, if they're just going to a wonderful afterlife? They'll be pleased they've died, and their relatives will see them again soon enough! So surely we should rejoice when people die? I'm not trying to take a pop at the fundies here, I'm genuinely wondering why someone who believes in a paradisian afterlife would think death is a tragic thing.

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Actually- you're not that far off. We sorrow because of the passing of the individual and because we won't see them again(here), but we are happy because they've gone to meet Jesus. I lost my grandfather in 98, and another old man that was a good friend to me just recently passed away. My grandfather was lost, and it made me and my father terribly upset, because he was lost for eternity now. The other man was a enthusiastic pentacostal minister who had been around for forever with encouraging statements. His passing was less hard because we knew he was going to a better place.

Believe whatever you all wanna believe- but I've found my joy in Jesus.

If being "saved" means I have to follow silly rules coming out of a book that is basically only right because it SAYS it's right, well then damn. I guess I just don't wanna be saved.
Meanwhile, you and yours do what you please, use that free will the mighty god gave you, and I'll do the same. Why have the choice if you're not going to use it?

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

This record was put out in JUNE of 2001.
Note how fucking close the exlosions are to the actual crash sites of the twin towers...
The "artists" are communist rappers.

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

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This record was put out in JUNE of 2001.
Note how fucking close the exlosions are to the actual crash sites of the twin towers...
The "artists" are communist rappers.

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Which probably makes them ...

atheists.

Oh crap, I started it again.

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This record was put out in JUNE of 2001.
Note how fucking close the exlosions are to the actual crash sites of the twin towers...
The "artists" are communist rappers.

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I take it this record has been withdrawn from sale.

I see they're changing the ending of Men in Black 2, because it featured the WTC. Also, the Spider-man trailer has been revoked because it shows him webbing up some crims between the towers. I guess they want to be up-to-date.

I'm not an athiest.

And socialism/communism does not denote any particular set of beliefs...

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Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

??? What choice? To believe or not? I already chose to believe!

I hope JrnymnNate's right and you're all wrong. Just to see the looks on your faces!

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

Why even bother arguing about something that neither of you can prove. Your not gonna be able to change the other persons mind or anything. You either believe or you don't but don't even bother arguing about it.

Don't argue? THAT'S COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

I died once and discovered that God had forgotten about us. He had moved on. When I tried to introduce myself he didn't hear me and moved away. I was left holding a warm gin and tonic in the corner.

I was so embarrassed. I'm never going to die again.

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I died once and discovered that God had forgotten about us. He had moved on. When I tried to introduce myself he didn't hear me and moved away. I was left holding a warm gin and tonic in the corner.

I was so embarrassed. I'm never going to die again.

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That's very beautiful. If I was the type to print things out and put them on my wall, I would probably print that out and put it on my wall.

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And this from the man who wrote "Beer makes time die." I'm touched.

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"Jelly-belly gigglin, dancin and a-wigglin, honey that's the way I am!" Janice the Muppet

you people are hilarious...

"alright... i suppose you're right... the last thing in the world i'd want to do is start a religious flame war... i'll back off, and in doing so take the moral high road...
AFTER THIS!

Sinners! i follow the one true faith! hellfire and sulfur is your reward for letting lucifer make you his bitch!
(or the atheist version)
FOOL! YOUR GOD IS DEAD, I ATE HIM FOR BREAKFAST! [killing the caps because i assume it's getting annoying]
The only thing i regret is not being able to see the look on your face when you die and there's no heaven! you fool! you foolish fool! faith is for fools!"

i was a catholic, then hard core atheist... now i'm agnostic, and i'll tell you why.
any religious debate can be relatively quickly ended with "i dunno... maybe... if you say so, i guess... whatever... if god wants to exist, that's his business, you know... i try to stay out of other people's affairs"

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Sinners! i follow the one true faith! hellfire and sulfur is your reward for letting lucifer make you his bitch!
(or the atheist version)
FOOL! YOUR GOD IS DEAD, I ATE HIM FOR BREAKFAST! [killing the caps because i assume it's getting annoying]
The only thing i regret is not being able to see the look on your face when you die and there's no heaven! you fool! you foolish fool! faith is for fools!"

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Cool, vicarious headrush.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

*raises a hand*

I am a lapsed Catholic.

I only lapsed so I could use words like "motherfucker".

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sorry 'bout that, unless it's a good thing, in which case you owe me one dollah

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"You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel..." - homer

What, American money?

Motherfucker.

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I ate a hooker half a bottle of knife.

oddly, my fiance and i were both baptists, and now we're both more or less agnostic. she still thinks there's a good possibility that the apocalypse will go down as laid out by st. john--and certainly, there's good evidence that shows the biblical prophecies have been pretty accurate.

for me, i refuse to "believe" in the apocalypse, or in salvation, or in any of the other christian rhetoric. the way i see it, we just don't know, and st. john's guess is as good as mine (possibly better, since he has a lot more supporters than i). the bottom line is, i'll be happy when i die, so long as it's not an eternity of cornholing by giant red androids...

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...and here's another post, for the sake of pushing this thread further toward "colossal geek" levels.

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- christ@myself.com - fuck a cat, kill yourself - my alter ego has five stars

And this from the man who wrote "Beer makes time die." I'm touched.

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Random fact: I have a mosaic of the dog on the ball hanging on my wall. It was done by an enemy of the Church of Scientology.

Do you guys want a forum to fight in? It's no problem, I can do it. Message boards really only exist as a way to blow off steam so that you don't have to commit acts of terrorism.

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I am a "Fearful Agnostic" I am scared I could be dead wrong!

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"I know how toast works."

I'd hate having to check two forums, but it might make sense.

The way I see it, most of us are saying that there is no reasoning about intuition, and no deciding on the ultimate mysteries of existence. I agree. In fact, it might surprise you that when people hold up artifacts, like spoken and written words, as Truth, I regard it as idolatry.

If we abandon the supernatural for now, we can go back to secular matters, namely-- breaking news.

This morning on NPR, commentator Juan Williams considered two opposing viewpoints: that we should literally use nukes in our war against terrorism; or that we should, according to James Zogby, take a rational, deliberate approach so as to make sure we are targeting the guilty parties. Williams gave what I thought was a fair and persuasive summary of Zogby's view, but decided, strangely, on nuclear attack, saying, "These are unreasonable times."

I couldn't disagree more. If ever there was a time for reason, it's now. Who died in the WTC catastrophe? Janitors, secretaries, gofers, assorted professionals-- ordinary folks. Who'll die in a nuclear attack? The same. We won't kill the villains. Instead, we'll supply them with more justification for further atrocities, and in the meantime we'll have become the monsters we are supposedly combating.

So I am sitting here stunned at having heard, on National Public Radio, a call for nuclear attack, and an outright appeal to unreason. I know from reading your comments that some of you feel the same, and I urge you all to keep saying so to whomever will listen. You're talented and (from what I can see) principled folks, and now here is a test of those talents and principles.

Myself, I'm scared, but I don't know how to keep my mouth shut at this point. I am beginning to think I've misspent a large part of my life. I have known about these things for a long time but have failed to use whatever power I have to stop it. I demonstrated against the Gulf War, but that wasn't much, and after that, nothing. My actions probably never would have prevented Tuesday's horror, but they might have made a difference, and in any case it was my responsibility, in a supposed democracy, to try.

By the way, how is it that the donkey sodomy forum is the only one where I'm airing serious thoughts these days? Whatever, I'm glad you're all here.

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What others say about boorite!

Heh. That's because most of us (the regulars) here have our heads screwed on firmly. I'm impressed with us as a whole. You, especially, boorite. If I didn't already admire your comics, I'd be surprised. As it stands, I'm just really pleased.

Update on my life: I had a very close to complete nervous breakdown yesterday. I couldn't stop shaking and crying all morning. I called a hotline to talk to a counselor and confirmed everything I already knew in the rational parts of my head, and discussed my reaction that I felt was completely irrational, given that my family and friends are all safe. He explained that I had spent the last 2 days in a hypervigilant state, and that it was completely normal and common and appropriate for me to flip out, even three days later out of nowhere. I asked him how long it would take for me to be in control of myself, and he said it could be days or weeks. I told him I didn't have the luxury of days or weeks, and he told me to do the best I could to make the time for it, and to talk to people, and not to subject myself to the negative people.

So I talked to my supervisor and took the end of yesterday and all of today off, and took some work home (maybe I'll get to it) and slept for 15 hours. I don't know yet if I'm any closer to better, but I'm not shaking and crying anymore.

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DexX gives LadyJ a hug.

Oh, some news I heard through the grapevine - there is talk that CNN's footage of Muslims celebrating in the streets, footage that got a lot of people extremely angry, was actually file footage from 1991, and the invasion of Kuwait. If so, they may be in very deep shit.

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