...real mad, so don't fuck with me. Gone, the old, shitty deisel filled with crap about toilet seats and being a moron. Coming, the new, cut-the-crap Deisel...

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The world is grieving the deaths of thousands of innocent people, you fuckwit.

Fuck off and grow a brain, you dumb cunt!

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Wha?...whats going on?

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"You don't scare me with your silly knees bent running about advancing behavior."-Monty Python

What he said. Plus, if you're so worried that we're going to fuck with you, why would you even want to hang out with us?

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The what mentioned above is total fiction. Please don't take it seriously!

... Maybe he *is* an eleven year old...

Terrorists flew big jumbo jets into the World Trade center's twin towers, and into the Pentagon this morning. Big explosions ensued. Unless this was some internal job within the US, we could very well be looking at World War III.

Oh...sorry...I've only just heard the news... Holy motherfucking shit. Bloody terrorists. Think they're the best, killing thousands. I send my condolances to all the familys who lost theyre loved ones.

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"You don't scare me with your silly knees bent running about advancing behavior."-Monty Python

Us British *WILL* help you out if there is a WW3, god forbid.

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"You don't scare me with your silly knees bent running about advancing behavior."-Monty Python

So will Australia. US involvement in Vietnam, and Australia's subsequent involvement, was wrong, but this... a whole different matter. If this leads to war, it will be a just war.

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Isn't it a bit early to say? No war nowadays is confined to soldiers fighting one another: they all involve the bombing of civilians. I feel that destroying hundreds more innocent people in an attempt to apprehend the perpetrators should only be a last-ditch solution. Replying to one atrocity with another is, to say the least, a very unsavoury prospect.

Having said that, no matter who was responsible, I think it was clear even before this happened that there is no reasoning with certain factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The recent suicide bombings in Israel are testament to that. I believe that the world would, in a utilitarian sense, be better off without the existence of nations run by extremist, irrational zealots. But does that really justify blowing them all to kingdom come?

Hey, I am a dedicated pacifist, but if the people responsible for these atrocities, this massacre, can be definitively identified, I would pull the bomb-drop lever myself, if it meant that they could never ever hurt another living soul. In my book, pacifism includes stopping those who would seek to hurt others. I want to be sure that whoever did this will not do it again.

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I just wanna know who we are going to go to war with.
Palistine is ok with me, we've put up with all their crap over Isreal and now they dance in the streets when we are greiviously wounded.

Deisel is British?

1. Gimmick infringement.
2. Eurgh.

Anyway, just to say, my thoughts are with everyone in the US at this time, and let us all hope that this ends as quickly as it begun.

I don't think anyone wants a war.

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Well, I know this ain't gonna be a world war. It'll be a "Everyone in the world turns one place into a big piece of glowing glass" war.
England, US, Germany, France, Russia, Japan. All the superpowers will be on the same side if this comes to conflict. They'll be smoke before they can hop in their little planes.

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The only superpower I worry about is China, but if the world response is any idication, they'd be in a minority and hopefully not dumb enough to not support action against these cowards.

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I think China wants to get on our good side.
Can you imagine the Chinese army marching on Iraq? They wouldn't need guns, it'd be like a human wall. They'd trample them to death!

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NATO has invoked Article 5 of it's charter for the first time in history, and this has allied all of the NATO nations firmly behind America's cause.

These countries will be thus granted an interest in the decision making process in any subsequent acts of war that are made by America. I personally think that this is an inevitable response to this grievous, and unforgiveable injustice.

Both China and Russia have expressed their sympathies, and offered assistance to America. Considering the nations we have assisted in defense, and propped up over the last 100 years -both militarily and financially- I say: "Long overdue."

Egyptian nationals are suspected to have either manned one of the terrorist crews, or offered financial or logistical support in this vicious, evil act of war that has claimed thousands of lives. Despite this, Egypt has expressed it's condolences and, apparently, made some sort of offer of assistance.

Make no mistake about it:

There is going to be declared war.

For better or worse.

I belive that it would behoove all Americans to do what they can to assist this effort, and to try and endure this painful coming conflict with dignity, compassion for the lives of those lost, and a steadfast interest in protecting the security and freedoms of Americans yet to be.

Thank you.

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Did anyone see Arafat's speech yesterday? Certainly moved me more than Bush's. It was all through a translator but you could see the emotion in him. Inthe end, he said "God Blass" three times in English. To me, that's pretty damned profound and moving.

I saw a post on another board about a Canadian editorial that is really pretty moving. It's long, ubt I thought you'd all want to read it (sorry I don't have a link for it)
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America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his broadcast.

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
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Now for something totally fucking freaky... is this photoshopped?
http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/uploads/face.jpg

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It should be noted that that speech was not necessarily "recent." Mr. Sinclair presented that editorial in 1973.

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Thanks for the clarification. I just copied the stuff between the ---- from another post on another board off somewhere else. Not real up on Canadian broadcast news history. I've been meaning to study. :) (I know tensions are high, even on here, so I hope you didn't take that as me being an ass, wirthling. I may be tense, but I have great respect for Canadian broadcasters. They are no joke. :)

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YOU BASTARD!

Actually, after Sinclair made that speech, it became huge news in the U.S. The editorial was repeatedly replayed on American radio, transcribed and printed in magazines and newspapers, and I think it was even made into a song. Bunner is probably old enough to remember that, eh bunner?

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It's pretty damn fitting for stuff going on now I think though. Still moves me. I'd like to hear a recording of that myself.

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Shazam! --> http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/ccf/news/unique/american.ram

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YOU BASTARD!

Actually, after Sinclair made that speech, it became huge news in the U.S. The editorial was repeatedly replayed on American radio, transcribed and printed in magazines and newspapers, and I think it was even made into a song. Bunner is probably old enough to remember that, eh bunner?

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So, Bunner, how did you feel when those two young whippersnappers, Adam and Eve, moved into your neighbourhood? *evil grin*

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I am a newbie :\
My first comic was in the 5000s.

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