I saw it last night and I loved it but what's with killing Hoban? And what the hell was that that killed him? Some kind of reaver stalactite gun? I was a bit close to the screen so some of the action was hard to keep track of.

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If you're talking about Wash (I'm not familiar enough with the characters, since I didn't ever watch the series), it was one of the grappling post things that the Freak things had been firing in space, too.

Came out of the blue, yes... but after a second or two I realized it. (Actually, after Mal avoided one seconds later...)

I really enjoyed the movie, and it makes me want to rent Firefly from Netflix. Maybe I'll bump it up in my queue...

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I'm glad to see your positive reactions. I tried to view the movie both from my own perspective and from the perspective of someone who was not familiar with Firefly, and I was forced to admit that the character development was a little lacking, especially for the characters who were to be killed off.

I was waiting and waiting to see more of Wash's cuteisms, and then was finally rewarded with "I'm a leaf on the wind"... and then he was no more. I was stunned and horrified. I cried. Then I cried again for Zoe's stoicism in the face of losing the man she loved.

I also got teary when Book died, but mostly I am just frustrated by that because there was so much backstory for Book that I want to know!

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I just saw it tonight. It was quite good but killing Wash left me with a bad taste in my mouth. That sucked and was pointless. I may just still be angry at Whedon for all his senseless deaths in Buffy though. F reality.

Aside from that, the movie was good but not as good as the TV show. The characters weren't nearly as charming (probably due to a lack of time), and their relationships had changed/regressed from where the show left off. (Everyone had become attached to River by the end of the series and Mal never went to Book for advice.)

And the River backstory was kind of disappointing. They wanted her just because she knew the history of the Reavers? Big deal. Hardly seems to justify how nuts they were to get their hands on her. And what happened with the blue hand dudes?

I'm not sure I'd necessarily recommend it to a non-fan. I'd tell them to watch the TV series and then this'd be a nice bonus at the end. Except that they kill Wash, who was great and should be resurrected immediately if there's another installment.

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Well i've never watched Firefly (i think it was shown here somewhere, but on what channel i dont know) but i must say i really enjoyed the movie, i didnt really feel like there was much i didnt understand from not having watched the tv series, although i'm sure i would have enjoyed it more. I did find it ashame when Wash died, it was abit sudden (plus i was starting to like him) and when the old black guy died (sorry i dont remember his name) i'm sure that was quite an emotional moment if you watched the tv show, but it was kind of lost on me.

I did enjoy how it mixed humour with some kind of disturbing moments (like when they watch the hologram of the woman being eaten by reavers)

And i cant remember the main guys name (the captain) but i really liked him, but i did find it strange how at times he can be so cold, like pushing the guy off the cart then shooting him (ok the shooting was a mercy kill) and then later be cracking jokes ("i want a rocket and a pink pony!")
But that might make more sense if i had seen the tv show. All in all i enjoyed it and not having seen the tv show didnt ruin it for me (better than the new star wars any day)

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- Killing off Wash was a soft touch. OK, he was the comedy relief, easy victim. He was however a microcosm of his Firefly character, which I would like to have seen developed (i.e. how does a bloke like that pull a woman like Zoe? ) Shame.
- Shepherd was underused, but he was a microcosm of his character on Firefly. But still, shame to kill him off.

- Kaylee just seemed to be there to provide love interest for Simon. She was a better character when she was fixing stuff as well as acting all cute and luverly; in the film she did very little. I'd have liked to have seen more of her, and not just in a sexy way.

- Jane was a much better character on the big screen, where larger than life translates better.

- River as Lara Croft, Chun Li and Jean Grey all in one? Cheers, Whedon, not impressed. However her portrayal of a schizophrenic was pretty accurate/chilling, one of the better points. Stole a lot of the show.

- I would have liked to see where Whedon went with character development had he been given another couple of series. It didn't seem possible with what he had in the original series. It would have taken more subsidiary charcters (which I'm sure he would have written in)

- From the film, "The Operative" put in a great performance. I'd have liked to have seen him chasing the Serenity for a few seasons on TV.

As I said in the other thread, this was a great sci-fi flick. Shame we won't get to see what Whedon had planned, but, given what he set out with the first 13 episodes, I can see why it was cancelled.

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I was a wee bit disappointed with the film. What I loved about Firefly was how small-scale it was, and it felt slightly off to have them in a big space epic.

I didn't much like the Reavers, either. They were built up in the series to be these cruel and sadistic savages, and it was implied they were pretty smart (they can fly spaceships, after all) but in the end they were just crap zombie substitutes.

It seems to be doing pretty well, though, so hopefully they'll make more. Although knowing Joss, he'll probably think of a way to work Spike into it.

Apparently... (as so much great wisdom begins)

...Joss Whedon has said that Wash isn't "permanently" dead, and when his death was written into the story it was always intended to be "reversible".

No details have been forthcoming, though he has said that it will not be contrived or silly, but will make sense in terms of the story. I assume there is talk of a second film in order for this promise to have been made...

We're talking about the guy who resurrected Buffy [u]twice[/u] so I'm sure he'll work it out. :)

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If he plans on making more he better hope that there is a sudden huge boost of box office. How many films that make under 50 million get sequels?

After 2 weeks its up to 18 million. With more than a 50% drop off from week one to week two. I don't know if eough nerds exist to warrant a sequel.

Yeek! I didn't know that. I just checked The Numbers, and it's looking to be a bomb.

Pity, it's a pretty good flick.

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It's just not had the budget to attract non-sci-fi fans. Pity.

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The DVD will probably sell shitloads, though.

Perhaps a straight to DVD sequel. They could probably build up a huge market for that.

I'm thinking that the resurrection of Wash is going to be that Wash has been cloned by the alliance, and then they will send the Wash-clone after River.

The reavers were never shown as being "smart". They were exactly the same in the movie as they were in the show. Whedon always knew the explanation for the reavers, but was waiting to reveal it to the viewers. Because of this, there was no need to change their demeanor, because he had already created them to be explained in the way that they were.

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Non fan before I saw it last night, but I'll be going to get the DVD's now, loved it.

Dude, did you see any of the series on DVD?

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I saw one episode of the show (like all SF on Aussie TV, its timeslot was shifted at random and it was pre-empted all the time, so I never knew when it was on) and that one episode was really fun. I would have happily watched more of it, and plan to rent or buy the series when I get a new job.

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Saw a bit on't Sci-fi Channel, but later in the series, so I thought it was kinda meh, but now I want a go at it.