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Fracture
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I guess you all like my strips. One of em's #1. Cool Beans.

Thanks.

2-08-01 11:07am (new)
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WOOKY
Member - Tobor Fan Club

go cum in your eye

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2-08-01 2:55pm (new)
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Fracture
Junior Comic Technician

Uhh, ok.

2-08-01 6:09pm (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Wait on, let me get this straight...

You went to the trouble of making a new identity before cheating, either to show how smart you are or to poke fun at poor old Johnny, but then you are dumb enough to use your usual name when gloating about it on the forum?

*rummage*

Oh, I see.... you cheated under your usual name, as well as under the fake name...

One question - what's your fucking point?

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2-10-01 6:33am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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He actually did have the top spot when he started this thread.

At first I was pissed about "lowpassnumberone", but then I realized, why bother? Not only is he like the ten millionth person to figure out a way to cheat, he didn't even figure out a *good* way. And then he goes and brags about it like it's something original that we should all care about and applaud him for. If you ask me he's making a fool of himself.

We've known there have been flaws in the voting system since the start. Even when people don't actively exploit them, the sort-by-score list is still not a reliable way to find good comics and ignore the bad. That's why I keep links to authors I like in my profile. It seems to me to be the only way to help people find good strips.

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2-10-01 2:40pm (new)
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Fracture
Junior Comic Technician

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What the hell are you talking about? I didn't cheat. I was on the other day and went to the top 10 and saw one of my comics was number one. Sorry if I seemed like I was gloating that wasn't my intention. Granted maby it was a bit of a jerkball statement of mine. I didn't cheat tho, I also don't really like being accused of it either.

2-10-01 4:35pm (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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Misunderstanding or Nazi conspiracy?

Hey guys, If you look at the dates on the comics, Fracture posted his comment a day before (2/8)lowpassnumberone hacked the site and posted his comic (2/9). At the time Fracture had the number one comic and was happy about it. (To err id hueman, still number 3.)

So unless you know something I don't, I think you're yelling at the wrong guy.

-ObiJo

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2-10-01 5:03pm (new)
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Bottlerockett
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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Whatever the case, the strip in the #1 position is not any good and should be taken off? Or would this just prompt anarchy?

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2-10-01 8:45pm (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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Whatever the case, the strip in the #1 position is not any good and should be taken off? Or would this just prompt anarchy?

It probably would. Anyway, what would be the point? Plenty of other strips that have made it to the top 10 aren't any good either. And "lowpassnumberone", whoever he is (and I know he wasn't Fracture; I hope my previous comment didn't make it look like I thought he was), is by no means the first person to put a strip in the top 10 by cheating. He's just the first person to be juvenile enough to brag about it, instead of, oh, say, discussing it here, or e-mailing Johnny about it, both of which had already been done long before he created that strip.

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2-10-01 10:04pm (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Fracture - sorry if I have offended you, but SOMEBODY has used a fraudulent method to push your comic to number one. Regardless of its quality, it simply couldn't have gotten to number one in that time unless somebody voted repeatedly for it. The rankings are calculated by a total of all votes, not an average, so your comic would have to overtake strips that had been collecting votes for several weeks. Even if you were getting all 10s, it couldn't happen. Someone cheated, and I assumed it was the author of the strip - a fairly logical assumption, you must admit.

If you have been wrongly accused, I apologise unreservedly.

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2-11-01 8:57am (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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While we're on the subject of voting and what not, could some explain to me exactly how the whole scoring thing works?

I've gleaned that before I first got here, the scoring was -5 to +5, rather than 1 to 10. Also each comics scores are not averaged, but rather a total of all votes. Thus anyone who had comics around during the old scoring could have totals deep in the negative numbers (case in point APB).

Am I correct so far?

And since the scores are totaled, shouldn't the top ten highest rated be made up of the older, funny comics (barring cheating, of course). Since they're displayed on the front page randomly it would seem that of two equally funny comics the older one would have a much higher total score since it had been collecting votes longer.

Is there a reason behind not using an averaged system?

And what's the difference between highest rated and most popular? The most popular list never seems to change and I can't figure out the criteria for it.

Anyhoo, just me being curious.

Gabe

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2-11-01 9:17am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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Gabe, I think you're right about pretty much everything you said. I haven't been here for long enough to remember a voting system other than 1 - 10, either. But old comics and forum posts suggest that it was once -5 to +5, then went down entirely for a while, then came back in its present form.

Comics that were made during the -5 to +5 period shouldn't have an advantage over later ones, because not only could they only get half as many points in one shot then as they can now, they could also get points taken away. However, older comics from the 1 to 10 era should be doing better than newer ones. I've found that this is often the case, though not always. Sort the list by score and then see how many pages down from the top you have to go before you start getting significant numbers of strips from the last three or four days. In fact, recent strips in high places are a good sign someone's been cheating. I share DexX's suspicion that some third party may have promoted Fracture's strip to the top 10. It's not that the strip isn't funny, just that it's too recent.

I suspect that the more comics there are, the more pronounced this effect will be.

Sometimes it seems to me as if the randomizer is weighted so that it's more likely to display newer comics. No official word about this as far as I know.

I don't know why we don't use an average-rated system. Probably because it would be more work to code, and because we've been using totals since the beginning and now have no record of how many votes each strip has received. The -5 to +5 system sort of is average-based, though.

I think "Most Popular" means that those comics have been viewed more often than others. Putting those comics in a highly visible place only assures that they'll get viewed more often and thus will become even more popular. I remember seeing the list change once or twice, but not much.

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2-11-01 2:04pm (new)
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Fracture
Junior Comic Technician

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Humm, I donno why anyone would do that for me? I voted for it once and gave it an 8.

What really gets me is that after like Thursday I stopped voting period. I just look at the comics by people I see in the message board because they seem to be the only people who make comics tha thave a grasp of the concept of humor. It's real painful to see the same crap over and over and have to vote on it again and again. At this point i really don't care who's #1 or #101. I would just like to read comics that are funny and not all the - Jesus: Hey look I'm Jesus and I'm using the word fu**!"

Am I alone in this?

2-11-01 10:37pm (new)
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