I don't care that someone doesn't like my art. It's a fact of life that people have different tastes and I can't please everybody. My goal, however, was to get a couple more characters added with multiple expressions. If multipe expressions are "useless", then some people have some odd notions of what is useful.

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It was such a waste of everyone’s time and money that even the Tokyo stadium’s rape robots apologized– something they were programmed specifically never to do.

I've had a shitty day, too, so I'll take your bait. It will be the last time.

Where did you get this "volunteer artists" high horse you seem to be on? I think keeping the number of essentially identical characters you have to sort through to a minimum is a pretty useful feature.

HCRoyall asked for feedback, not a friggin' dissertation on stripcreator character development.

And with that, I'm going to eagerly await the next time you sulk off for three years. I'm done with you.

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peddling the funny around since 09/24/2002

Well, that was fun.

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DexX rules

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what if nigger meant kite

Oh no -- you didn't even just go there! Oh no you didn't! Uh-uh!

I know you didn't just go there!

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I was gonna send a robot back in time, but I got high.

Bringing in new characters with different facial expressions is long overdue, IMO.

Also...

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Think classy, you'll be classy.

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I know you didn't just go there!

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Bump.

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It was such a waste of everyone’s time and money that even the Tokyo stadium’s rape robots apologized– something they were programmed specifically never to do.

I hate to say that not_Scyess was right about the usefulness of characters, but he was. That's why I asked DexX to put my forumusers character in a tuxedo, because I knew it could be used for a great many things (waiter, groom, M/C, butler).

That said, not_Scyess could have been a little more diplomatic. And DexX could learn not to respond to the bait.

Can't we all just get along?

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

I will concede that Jer and Harrison might not be very useful here. However, as I have stated, I believe having more characters with multiple expressions is a good idea. We don't have many female characters compared to the number of males, therefore Kim and Amy have a usefulness to improve variety for female characters. Remy can serve various purposes as well: Bouncer, Thug, athelete on downtime, violent rascist, etc. It's all in how you use them.

As far as the thread's gone, not_Scyess and you are the only ones who have voted against them, the majority in favor of having them added. I didn't see the use in some of Injokester's material, and I rarely have use for Squabies's stuff, but I'm not going to say they're not useful. And I will reiterate what has been said several times already: No one's forcing you to use them.

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It was such a waste of everyone’s time and money that even the Tokyo stadium’s rape robots apologized– something they were programmed specifically never to do.

And I'll reiterate what might've been missed: There is some advantage of keeping the character count down. It's easy to find characters to use if you don't have to scroll through 4 million identical pieces of art. It makes the comic maker bulky and cumbersome if you do. (Even with the new thumbnail button.)

I'll also reiterate that there's nothing WRONG with your characters. But they don't do anything new. I agree with you that some of the new art isn't very useful, but that doesn't justify adding MORE useless art. And at least the squabies category is full of art which is different. You can chalk the fact that we can't use it up to our own lack of creativity. 8) We already have TONS of people, some of which have more range of emotion than others, granted. But we still have tons of them. No need for more!

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peddling the funny around since 09/24/2002

Well, they do exhibit a wide range of emotions, which is something only blue and Maura do right now. And if they were in their own seperate category, there would be no problem scrolling through them to find something else.

I get a little frustrated having to resort to the same characters over and over. I think we need some fresh blood now and then. It's also useful to have some characters that aren't extreme caricatures and whose facial expressions are flexible.

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Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.

even if you accept the premise, imo this is a pretty weak argument in this case. truth is i'm not overly jazzed about the characters either, but the reason i'd want them added is BECAUSE they contribute something new. multiple expressions. something we're in need of

and is there any way to track the useage of characters? if you could tell for instance that wiguroger has been used 50,000/number of days active while, for instance, the kofightclub skeleton has been used 5,000/number of days active, then you'd have an easy way to know which characters are "useful" and which are not. then you'd just have to remove the characters that fall below some threshold and keep adding new art in their spot. then track those and do the same

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what if nigger meant kite

I agree that if we're going to add "characters" then they need to actually have "character". Doctors, nurses, surgeons, firemen make sense because they are useful for playing a role, adding more humans just seems like a waste of time.

Apart from the drawing style, hair-colour or choice of clothing, I fail to see what difference these characters would make to selecting any other generic male or female character.

If you're going to make more normal humans, at least have them in chains, on fire, with ripped clothes, holding a gun to their heads, down on one knee...etc etc

The list is endless, what we don't need is more characters that look slightly moody, slightly happy or slightly interesting.

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Dad was flammable

Im inclined to agree and disagree at the same time.
I believe there is a lot of scope for new characters with more than one expression, as within the constraints of the site this can actually aid the joke/storytelling process. Some of my favourite characters to use are those that have more than one look or expression. I also really like the look of HCRoyall's characters lovingly coloured in by dexx and can see their potential.

Having said that I also think that the changes are too slight, and too samey between the characters. Perhaps if some were posed differently, or had more exagirated expressions, for a good example look at the dieselsweeties maura, as each emotion is very well pronounced, or the Kaddar characters(blue especially).

I think with a little more work, these new characters could fit in well, although maybe take on board the suggestion of giving them a bit more unique characteristics (eg Make one a pirate, you can never have enough pirates, and put one in a suit, you know that sort of thing)

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If you're going to make more normal humans, at least have them in chains, on fire, with ripped clothes, holding a gun to their heads, down on one knee...etc etc

The list is endless, what we don't need is more characters that look slightly moody, slightly happy or slightly interesting.

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How many different men and women do you need for a 3-panel comic? I'd say 6 of each would suffice.

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Dad was flammable

I think it's good to have a wider selection of characters that aren't quite so specific, since their uses aren't as limited storywise (although specific characters are useful as well). I also think the HRC characters would also be used a lot by people whose comics are more about interpersonal relationships than just wacky stuff. I wouldn't mind seeing them made available at least on a trial basis in a seperate category. Unless this presents a problem for Brad in some way then I see no reason not to do so.

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Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.

one panel would "suffice" too, but i think the goals a little higher than that

exactly

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what if nigger meant kite

This may be off the topic, but I really could've used a bride character a while back. Or any woman in somewhat formal attire.

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peddling the funny around since 09/24/2002

One word:

Corpsey!