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kaufman
Director of Cats

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As usual, boorite got right to the crux of the problem. On this site, nothing is to be taken seriously. Ergo suicide threats are out of bounds here.

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1-29-04 8:07am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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What's wrong with posting to every thread?

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1-29-04 9:53am (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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I think the problems with suicides threats is most people do take them seriously, but they are usually just someone's way of dominating the attention of a chat. It's a pretty assy thing to do and makes IRC not fun. You can't call up a friend on the phone and say you are thinking of killing yourself without a serious backlash if you aren't seriously upset, but it's easy to do to a group of strangers online.

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1-29-04 11:15am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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In general, and this is GENERALLY, according to psychiatric studies people will exibit a particular behavioral pattern before they off themselves, and that includes NOT discussing their own suicide in length. People who actually do commit suicide are people who have reached the very depths of depression and are truly in emotional turmoil. People who toy with the idea are generally in emotional turmoil, but starving for attention, and therefore not actually going to attempt to commit the act. I have no fucking idea how to take suicide threats in an IRC room, but I'd like to live without them.

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1-29-04 1:41pm (new)
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ObiJo
Eamus Catuli

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When I was suicidal, I wanted to talk about it - to try to get someone to help me, to help stop the pain, to talk me out of it, to help me "fix" myself, to tell me it would pass in time because it feels like it never will.

Here's the thing about being suicidal - there's no solution. It hurts to live, it hurts to die. You don't want to go on living with the constant pain that daily life brings you, yet you're afraid of dying. It's a lose-lose proposition. And that's why suicidal people talk about it - they're trying to decide what to do.

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1-29-04 2:24pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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I think they'd be better off looking into counseling or support groups rather than thrusting it on a random sampling of Internet strangers.

I appreciate that people have emotional problems, but as a webmaster all I can think of is having this sort of thing on my conscience.

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1-29-04 3:40pm (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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Or 10000000 times a night like you. :P

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1-29-04 4:05pm (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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The death of a complete idiot who went on and on about how he was "hardcore" and no one believed him, despite the webcam, because he pulled shit like that regularly on your conscience?

Well, when you put it that way...

Your conscience shouldn't absorb something like that. 'Cause if it does, then it's gonna absorb anything that happens in the forums, in the strips, and even if someone does something stupid after not winning a contest.

There's a possibility that someone will be a stupid jackass in the chat so it's taken offline?

I think I'll stop buying toothbrushes because of a possibility of choking hazard.

1-29-04 4:20pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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Maybe "conscience" is a nice word for "criminal liability".

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1-29-04 4:29pm (new)
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AtheistDiary
Anal sex is a big pain in the ass.

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Taking something away from all of us just because of the possibility of some fucknut offing themselves in your room is frankly silly. It would be like, say, all of us ceasing to create comic strips out of fear that someone might read one, get offended or depressed, and go out and kill themselves or someone else.

(my gawd, did I just get serious there for a moment? Ah, fuck me, I have substance after all. Who knew?)

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1-29-04 10:22pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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Atheist and Ivy: everyone was talking about suicide threats and that's what my comment was about. That wasn't the only reason that I mentioned.

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1-29-04 10:33pm (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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What's a little litigation between friends?

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1-30-04 1:47am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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As usual, boorite got right to the crux of the problem. On this site, nothing is to be taken seriously. Ergo suicide threats are out of bounds here.


Agreed. I also agree with brad that suicidal feelings are for the professionals to deal with.

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1-30-04 7:25am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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That's false. I say this having spent 6 years as a trained suicide hotline counselor, and making suicide the subject of my comprehensive Master's exam, and spending several more years as a psychotherapist. Also, I have much direct personal experience with suicidal persons, a high proportion of whom "succeeded" in their attempts. Too much to go into here.

Research and my direct experience both support the contention that ObiJo's is the typical approach to committing suicide. Suicidal persons tend to say things like, "I don't see the point of living," "I'm tired of life," and "I'm going to kill myself." They show other signs, too, like wrapping up personal business and giving away treasured possessions to friends.

There is a type of guy-- usually a guy-- who will say nothing to anyone, and will secretly buy a firearm or steal cyanide from the Botany lab (both methods used by very close acquaintances of mine), drive to a remote location, and do the thing. There's no way to stop them.

People who don't warn you of their suicidal intent are very serious. But that is not to say that people who warn you are not serious. They are. Believe me. Or don't believe me, and do a search in Psych Abstracts.

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1-30-04 7:46am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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Perhaps my information on suicide is outdated.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

1-30-04 8:10am (new)
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Beaz
Freek-A-Leek

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IMHO, I believe that someone who is depressed enough to be in a chat room talking about suicide or fighting or threatening someone else just needs to go outside and experience REAL LIFE. Get out and do something, just get OFF the computer. Sitting alone in a room staring at a monitor does nothing to help self-esteem or any other problems, in fact I'm pretty sure it helps compound it.

1-30-04 8:21am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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I think they'd be better off looking into counseling or support groups rather than thrusting it on a random sampling of Internet strangers.

I appreciate that people have emotional problems, but as a webmaster all I can think of is having this sort of thing on my conscience.


I did read those transcripts. That was not ruled as an intentional suicide, but it was still fucked up.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

1-30-04 10:10am (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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Boinky33: LOL

I would not say that.

I'm more of a ROFL kind of guy.

1-30-04 10:30am (new)
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kaufman
Director of Cats

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Department of Redundancy Department on Line 1.

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1-30-04 10:44am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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Department of Redundancy Department on Line 1.


Marry me.

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1-30-04 12:10pm (new)
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MaKK_BeNN
VOTE JEB BUSH 2008

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So I um..won't be around for a while...got some business to take care of...out of town..........

Also I'm leaving my dong for BigEvilDan, I know he's always wanted that.

Welp.

Bye.

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1-30-04 12:33pm (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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MaKK, don't do it. It's not worth it.

You have a whole life of wanging and donging ahead of you!

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1-30-04 3:08pm (new)
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Rabid_Weasle
Professional style cramper

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Plus you still need to get your revenge on DX for stealing Dan away from you.

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Poop.

1-30-04 4:54pm (new)
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BigEvilDan
Comic Overlord

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Stop talking him out of it. I need that dong.

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"Oh, look, a joke! How original! Thank you, but if I wanted my emotions stimulated pleasurably, I'd get a whore." - Donald B. Jones III

1-30-04 5:54pm (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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We have plenty though.

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1-30-04 7:08pm (new)
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