This reply is for pretty much everyone but squidrabies, who has sunk to the level of proposing that he knows what I really mean, no matter what I actually post. And what I mean is always something nasty, no matter what I actually post. Reasoning with a person who has taken this position (which, unless squidrabies has mind-reading powers, is frankly insane) is impossible. But I had a few thoughts that might interest someone else. If not, skip 'em.
I focused on the picture because it was the only thing posted by me that anyone was proposing to interpret as "hostile." Otherwise, there was nothing. There is no pattern of my hostile posts that this picture is only a small part of. There are in fact no other posts that were offered as evidence. Only this picture, and not even that contains anything hostile, except what was brought to it by the viewer. Anyone on whom this point is lost is unreachable. In any case, I have focused on the picture because it's the only solid thing that squid offered as evidence of my nastiness.
What squidrabies is saying here is that no matter what I actually posted, it was hostile, and he stands by his characterization of me. Furthermore, no matter what I post now, it means whatever he wants it to mean, and that is always something bad about my personal character. This kind of thing obviously drives me crazy, which is one reason why I can't keep coming back for more.
I don't know how it is that a person can admit this and continue insisting that the post was hostile. To me, it's a testament to the human mind's ability to hold on to two contradictory propositions at once. "A is B, and A is not B." A concise definition of insanity.
To look at a photograph of a person thinking and see a person thinking is not, in fact, retarded. To look at a picture of a person thinking and see yourself being denounced is a little weird. That anyone is still arguing about this abundantly obvious point says (to me, at least) that some people have an absolutely astonishing need to think they were right all along. Isn't it amazing?
In case anyone who does not proceed from a canned assumption that I am a shithead is confused by the above passage, I'll clarify what was already clear. Of course, I did not say that a picture of a person thinking could itself mean any old thing. It is not free of meaning, or "meaningless," as squid repeatedly insists. I said that it is value-neutral. And it is. Therefore, any value one perceives in it (i.e., it is negative or hostile) must come from oneself. There is nowhere else for the value to come from.
This does not even remotely resemble the proposition that the meaning of the picture was completely arbitrary. That picture indicated a person thinking. Not a wedding, not a funeral, not a war, and not a ballet. A person thinking is what it was. I don't think it's a particularly intellectual point. Can anyone really fail to understand it?
These two points do not contradict each other in the slightest. What amazes me, and what I mean to draw attention to, is that an intelligent person can hallucinate a contradiction where there is none. This happens all the time on the internet. It even happens in respected circles of public discourse. Start noticing it, and it will drive you bananas. Then you can be like me, lolo buttsecks.
Another astonishing performance. I allegedly mischaracterized his position. He did not say I do the thing in question. What he said was I do it all the time to everyone, and that many of us do it. So I stand corrected. Never mind what we have actually said and done, which is recorded for anyone to see. There is some horrible, greater pattern... of what, exactly, we still don't know. Something bad.
I think the point is that I am bad, and so are some of you, no matter what. It's just bizarre to me.
Again, we are not told when exactly this is, because no example exists. Quite the opposite. And yet, here is the repeated insistence that it is true. It would not end, ever, no matter what the facts are.
Again, astoundingly counterfactual. This is not what was done in the actual world. Very frustrating.
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Which is exactly what married people generally do.
These things are true. They in no way mean I think you're a power-mad dictator. I just think you're a popular jerk. It's very simple.
I had thought we had moved beyond baseless character assassination and name-calling in the name of making SC a nicer place. I really thought that this particular dumb idea had been beat to death and laid permanently to rest. What I see here is that we can never move beyond it. Some will return to it again and again, like the proverbial dog to its proverbial upchuck. I don't want to be on a board where this flies, because I will have a fucking heart attack eventually, or my head will explode from the sheer perversity of it.
If anyone really is wondering: I might be mistaken, and if so, then I don't see how my disclaimer does any harm. In any case, I thought I read elsewhere that Ima had been downvoted by persons unknown, presumably for his role in this kerfuffle, and I wanted to make it clear that I don't do that, and I don't approve of it. I also wanted it noted that crabby does downvote others out of personal malice, and I have seen him try to enlist others to help him in this cause. I point this out in support of my general contention that crabby is scum.
I dissect this post to point out that this is an argument I could never, ever, ever settle, much less win, no matter what the actual facts are. It is beyond my power. No explanation I offer could ever satisfy someone like squidrabies, because he can read minds and judge souls, and he has determined that I am copying things out of a textbook so that I can look smart, because I am a popular jerk. On the other hand, if I post pictures or nonsense, I am dumbing down the place and ruining it because I am a popular jerk. See? Can't win.
Maybe this kind of thing will happen to one of you sometime. If so, you can benefit from seeing where it went here (which is fucking nowhere).
But it certainly isn't my problem anymore. I'm "giving it to God" now and going someplace where a loony, drunken character assassin like squidrabies will just get banned as he so richly deserves to be. That way, I won't bust a blood vessel trying to think about his crazy bullshit.
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