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attitudechicka
is never bored.

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christopher7murphy

Actually, I have multiple accounts here on sc, and if I switch between them, it takes a while for them to log off (even if I click log out), so it's very possible for one person to be signed in to two accounts at the same time. Or at least I've done it.

I also have multiple donor accounts all with voting access. I don't use the voting on my other two accounts, but it isn't restricted on those accounts. Should it be?

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8-14-07 3:47pm (new)
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RedfeatheR
Part of it all, just like you.

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All you have to do to be logged in mulitple accounts at once is to use multiple browsers.

i.e.  -- IE, FF, Safari.

8-14-07 4:05pm (new)
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100Faces
Face it!

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Hi everybody!

Guess it's time for me, too to say something and that's just I'm sorry. As my brother, Dr.Morton aka HydeGuy, I also used my second account for voting (both mine and other comics).

 So again, I am 100Faces and AnIntellectualMind and none of the other suspects and I promise not to misuse my second account any longer (I can't anyway).

 I think the rest has alraedy been said by Dr.Morton.

Best wishes to all of you!

8-14-07 4:24pm (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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attitudechicka

I have a couple of donor accounts too, but neither one is able to vote. I think I can use one to vote only if ivytheplant hasn't voted on that user or comic already and vice versa.

8-14-07 4:32pm (new)
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christopher7murphy
underestimated the power of cheese

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as long as we're all confessing....gulp:

I use to pee on the floor and blame my lil' brother.

 GOONIES RULE!

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8-14-07 7:45pm (new)
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little_kitty
I bop, you bop, a-they bop.

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ivytheplant

I have a couple of donor accounts too, but neither one is able to vote. I think I can use one to vote only if ivytheplant hasn't voted on that user or comic already and vice versa.


I thought that this is what was implemented during the time of the Great Stripcreator War... When IRC was shut down because people were getting multiple donor accounts and downvoting everyone left and right. I'm pretty sure brad has some IP tracking system if things got really suspicious, but I think this was mostly supposed to be an honour system.

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8-14-07 8:08pm (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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What really set the stage for all this was the House of SC mega-crossover, in which Brad went insane and altered the fabric of reality in order to bring back Wirthling, who sucked so hard that cyberspace collapsed.

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What others say about boorite!

8-15-07 11:25am (new)
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UnknownEric
and the Goblet of Mountain Dew.

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boorite

Those fateful three words:

"NO MORE TOBOR"

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I has a flavor!

8-15-07 4:07pm (new)
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biped
Mr. Wonderful

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I've been a "Star Trek" fanatic for longer than a lot of people have been alive--especially babies.  I started out with the original series, back when that was the only Trek there was (unless you count "Oyster Trek" with Regis Philbin, which wasn't a very exciting show at all), and there wasn't much about the series that I didn't like. 

I liked the low-budget special effects.  I liked Yeoman Janice Rand's stupid basket-weave wig that looked like it should have a jug of wine and a loaf of French bread sticking out of it.  I liked the way Captain Kirk's ass used to explode whenever someone threw flaming hamsters at him.  There just wasn't anything about the show that I didn't wholeheartedly like.  Except for one thing.  One really annoying thing.  One really, really annoying, horrible, smelly, vomit-inducing, egg-sucking, crab-infested, donkey-raping thing...

Ensign Pavel Chekov.

And the way Bones used to pooch his bottom lip out like a bloated slug whenever he was concerned about something.  Okay, two things.  But mainly Ensign Pavel Chekov. 

The character of Ensign Chekov was created when Paramount realized that "Star Trek" needed to compete with "The Monkees" for all those young teenyboppers out in TV land.  So they hired Walter Koenig, slapped a wig on him to make him look like a space Monkee, and introduced him, fittingly, during a comedy episode called "The Trouble With Tribbles."  This gave him a chance to showcase the funny aspects of his character right away, the main one being that Chekov, being a Russian, thinks that everything was invented by Russians.  Pardon me, in-WENT-ed by Russians. 

That's another fascinating thing about Chekov--due to his incredibly fake Russian accent, he cannot pronounce the letter "V."  Which makes him sound like the big, stupid idiot that he is.  "Keptain, the alien wessel is approaching," he might say during a tense moment, causing Kirk to waste valuable seconds trying to figure out what the hell he's talking about.  It's a good thing Sulu knew how to handle that sort of stuff because Chekov was about as useful behind the navigator's console as having a bunch of retarded turnip farmers humping goats all over the bridge.  "Keptain, the alien wessel is weering off," he might add later on, which Kirk could totally ignore since Sulu had already handled the shit ten seconds ago.  Message to Chekov: you've got a friggin' "V" in your NAME--DUMBASS!  Learn how to SAY it!

With that stupid hair-mop shoved onto his head, Chekov was supposed to look like, I don't know, Davey Jones or Mickey Dolenz or something.  He actually looks more like actress Elaine Giftos, or a larger version of "Mikey" from the Life cereal commercials.  Teenybopper-wise, he's a train wreck.  I would hate to see how any young girl who ever sighed dreamily over a picture of Walter Koenig as "Chekov" turned out.  Maybe that's where lesbians come from. 

Later, when they decided Chekov was so universally adored that he could get along without the wig, Koenig sported what may be television's first teenybopper-idol comb-over.  Suddenly, it was like having one of the Dave Clark Five or Gerry and the Pacemakers on the bridge.  You know, vaguely Monkee-like, only ugly.  So now, "Star Trek" was stuck with this incredibly lame major character who was about as appealing as a huge pair of hairy titties on Tommy Lee Jones.  And what happens then?  George Takei goes off to be in THE GREEN BERETS with John Wayne, so all of Sulu's lines during the next several episodes are given to Chekov.  My god, it's like a nightmare you can't wake up from.  And it just gets worse.

You see, Chekov did have one unique, outstanding talent that he was allowed to show off week after week--whenever he was frightened or in pain, he would scream like a girl.  Chekov stumbles across a dead body: "YAAAAAAAAA!!!"  Chekov hurts his widdle hand: "YAAAAAAAAA!!!"  It finally reached a point where the red alert siren was no longer necessary, because whenever anything bad happened, the rest of the crew could hear Chekov screaming all over the ship.  The only time this wasn't incomprehensibly irritating was in the "Mirror, Mirror" episode, in which Chekov is placed into something called the "agony booth."  Just think...Chekov, in intense agony, for hours and hours on end, screaming his head off.  "YAAAAAAAAA!!!"  Ahh...music to my ears.

When the series made the leap onto the big screen, Chekov was still stuck to it like a leech.  He was just as useless as ever, but for some reason kept getting major parts in the stories.  In the first one, there's a scene in which he burns his hand during a life-or-death situation, and everything comes to a screeching halt as he lurches around the bridge screaming until Dr. Chapel races in and sprays some soothing medicine on the big baby's boo-boo. 

In STAR TREK:THE WRATH OF KHAN, a loathesome creature burrows its way into his ear canal, allowing him to scream yet again, and he screams some more when the thing comes back out.  And to make sure we haven't forgotten what an idiot he is, he spends half the running time of STAR TREK:THE VOYAGE HOME running around San Francisco dressed like the little Sherwin-Williams dutch boy, doggedly asking people where the "nuclear wessels" are.  I swear, you just want to strangle the goofy little shit.

Anyway, the original cast of "Star Trek" has been put out to pasture now, including Ensign Pavel Chekov, thank god.  And with "Star Trek:The Next Generation" came a whole new cast of cool characters, and we were just positive that good ol' Gene Roddenberry would do everything right this time and not stick us with somebody as incredibly lame as Chekov, and then, right there in the first freakin' episode, is Wil Wheaton as "Wesley Crusher."  And grateful "Star Trek" fans everywhere could be heard saying, in unison:  "Thanks, Gene.  I hope your dick falls off."

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8-15-07 7:59pm (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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biped

That gave me many lols.

8-15-07 9:06pm (new)
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biped
Mr. Wonderful

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Thanks!  Even though expressing my intense hatred for Ensign Chekov represents an agonizing, soul-wrenching psychological and emotional exorcism for me, I did want people to enjoy reading it.

Here's a picture I made to go along with it:

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Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.

8-15-07 9:34pm (new)
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matclarke
herpes laden mug

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I'm off to show a customer how to use a LeeBoy curber. I'll be back on Monday.

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obscenity filter is off

8-16-07 9:18am (new)
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RedfeatheR
Part of it all, just like you.

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I've given up on "okay." Only "bad" and "good" will I use.

8-16-07 2:54pm (new)
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mandingo
weak stream

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DrMorton

100Faces

awhile back, someone else told me they set up an account to boost their scores too. it's time to set up one vote per IP. this is all pretty icky

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8-16-07 7:35pm (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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There's a problem with one vote per IP. Not that I'm biased or anything, but some of us live with other SCers. And there's these handy things that can spoof IPs...

i.e. it's going to punish the people who are behaving and do nothing to the people who are being bad. Kind of like gun laws. 

8-16-07 7:46pm (new)
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attitudechicka
is never bored.

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New SCUNT ominously coming soon.

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Mediocrity at its most average.

8-16-07 9:43pm (new)
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mandingo
weak stream

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ivytheplantmost people don't know how to spoof IPs though, which is what makes it useful. i also live with another SC user by the way. maybe Brad could make exceptions for individual IPs of people he trusts, but even if he couldn't, it would still be worth it since it would at least partially remedy the cheating

ivytheplantthat's only true if magically somehow people who don't behave always know how to spoof ips and people who do behave never know how. in reality, a small % of both groups will. the upshot being, it's not that someone can't cheat, but at least you made it harder to

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what if nigger meant kite

8-16-07 11:02pm (new)
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mandingo
weak stream

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florida trip went well. we saw a big ass 6 inch grasshopper outside our hotel room and a rattlesnake driving across the road. got to see a lot of twi's family... beside the two i just mentioned.

HAHA!

*looks over shoulder*

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8-16-07 11:04pm (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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IP spoofing doesn't even have to come into it. All I have to do is go into work, any hotspot at the university, any of the wireless restaurants and cafes (which also have computers), the libraries, or even haul my laptop around to any hotspot or go to a friend's house and make a new account. Hell, boo and I have spread our SC "DNA" around to a bazillion hotels across the country. And it's not too hard to mail a $10 bill to Brad or even open a Paypal account. Someone doesn't have to be smart enough to know how to use an IP spoofer in order to do all that.

I'm just saying that it's going to be pretty ineffectual and anyone who wants to get around it can get around it in no time with little thought. At best it's an inconvenience for people who share the same IP (here's hoping no one on lives on the same campus) and it cuts down on a normal person's visits because it's frustrating to either not be able to vote, or go elsewhere to vote. At worst, people say "fuck it" and stop voting, leaving the downvoting dicks to continue their rampage.

Then there's deciding which IP to allow. Are you going to zap home IPs only or will work IPs be zapped too? Are you going to zap the entire IP of a campus network because there's one user? Only one of 10,000 students might be an SC user now, but there's another 9,999 that might stumble on here at some point. Also, some IPs aren't static.

Oh, I'm sure there's plenty of ways to deal with that, as well as lots of time to implement it.

I'm all for making it harder for people to cheat. But there's got to be a way to make it harder for the cheaters to cheat and avoid making it a pain in the ass for people who aren't. 

8-16-07 11:28pm (new)
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RedfeatheR
Part of it all, just like you.

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I made my SC account in Iraq. Beat that Ivy

8-16-07 11:58pm (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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Because mandingo's getting his panties in a twist over my supposed secret, which everyone here already knows anyway because I've fucking TOLD people, I'll say it out loud to satisfy him.

I once used boorite's account to vote for my comics. I asked his permission to do it. He said I could and said he was going to vote for my comics anyway but couldn't be arsed to do it yet. By that time, he had already voted every single one of my comics good. The only comics of mine I voted for using his account were the ones I made during that time that boorite wasn't on SC because he was sick and tired of people being shitbags. When I used his account to vote for mine, I was sick and tired of people being shitbags and constantly downvoting comics out of spite because they're loser chimpfuckers who gloat on IRC about how they downvote people just to downvote them. The amount of comics was negligible and aren't anywhere on my top 10, much less in any decent spot on toprated.

So yes, I'm a big fat dirty evil cheater. I'm just like all the people who get multiple donor accounts to boost my own scores, which, you might notice, aren't that great. Because one fucking"good" vote for a handful of comics, voted on by my husband I might add, didn't do a damned bit of good in the scheme of things.

I think what I was supposed to have done was go through and voted everyone else's comics good for the warm fuzzies so they wouldn't complain.

But we all know the voting system is a piece of absolute shit and it's only use is to fuck with people's heads and make them think it's important.

Like I said, IP restrictions are going to cause more problems than they solve. If you want to solve problems, go after the people who get their rocks off downvoting because it gives them a hardon.

8-17-07 12:06am (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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RedfeatheR

That's my fucking point right there. Thanks, Red.

8-17-07 12:07am (new)
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ivytheplant
Obsessive Comic Disorder

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For the clueless, those without reading comprehension, or those who have to make it was personal, here's what I was saying:

1. IP restrictions will not work and I gave specific reasons why.

That's it. That's all I said.

Never once did I say "lol i cheet all teh time" to a certain user and then turn around and say in public "lol i never cheet omg."

This stupid thing is about what will or won't work as a restriction to keep people from abusing the system. It is not about me, it is not about anyone else, and it is not about some big moral debate. It never was. It's about what will work to prevent people from abusing the system.

So stop making it personal.

8-17-07 1:05am (new)
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mandingo
weak stream

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ivytheplant

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ivy's saying one-vote-per-IP is not a full solution and can create problems for legitimate multiple account households. i'm saying one-vote-per-IP is a partial solution and a partial solution is better than none especially since there are ways to exclude legitimate multiple account households from the rule. she then decides not to address those points but instead repeat that one-vote-per-IP is not a full solution and can create problems for legitimate multiple account households. i then DROP THE BOMBSHELL ON YOU ALL AS I WAS JUST WAITING TO DO that i'm a woman trapped in a sheep trapped in a toaster trapped in a man's body

let that be a lesson to you.

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8-17-07 1:14am (new)
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biped
Mr. Wonderful

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And here's a friendly reminder for you MySpacers:

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8-17-07 1:23am (new)
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