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Seph_Deathstorm
Stripcreator Newbie

Don't know if this has already be suggested.

But what about having the option to increase the comic to "Four Panels" for Donors? I am not a Donor yet, but I plan on donating sometime in the near future. Anyway, I am sure some people here have had comic ideas, that just can't fit in three panels. Also how about a few more images in the selections, eh? But I guess that's a people thing.

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4-07-05 2:31am (new)
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not_Scyess
not laughing with you

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That is an excellent idea. I am behind this 120%... and that's 20% over the theoretical maximum.

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4-07-05 7:20am (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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Are four panels really that desirable?

1) The comics would be hella wide. They would just barely fit in my browser fully-maximized at 1280x1024 resolution. Anyone with a smaller resolution would have to scroll to the right to see the punchline.

2) I could potentially lay it out in a grid like Diesel Sweeties, but then the editing becomes nasty and also requires a giant screen.

3) Would four panel comics be any funnier than three panel comics? It could be my ADD, but I tend to think that the more words there are in a comic, the slimmer the chance that it will be funny.

I'm not totally against the idea, I just don't really get it. I'm more interested in the idea of one panel comics as with one panel at least I don't get bored to tears by the end of reading it.

The only thing holding me back on the one panel comics is that I have to figure out how to deal with titles that are wider than the actual comic.

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4-07-05 9:10am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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Eh, I'm not entirely sure four-panel comics are necessary. Make two two-panel comics if you have to.

I WOULD, however, like to somehow figure out the whole "Sunday Comic" thing. I like the idea of a big intro box and like five or six subsequent comic panels. Use could be limited to like one per donor per week to prevent abuse.

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4-07-05 9:21am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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I think this is the way it would have to be done. Four panels in one row would just be too wide for most screens.

It's not a word count issue, it's a timing issue, and a dialogue issue. With four panels we could have two panels of set-up and a pregnant pause, which I've sometimes wished I could do. Or we could just have more back-and-forth between the characters. I guess you could do two two-panel comics instead, but I've always been of the opinion that a comic should stand on its own as much as possible when you come across it on the random page.

It's not a huge deal, I guess, but the option to make comics with anywhere from one to four panels is something I'd be happy to see eventually. Beyond four panels, I agree that it's just getting wordy and should be split into two or more strips. They do pull it off in the Sunday paper, I suppose....

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4-07-05 11:21am (new)
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flipynif1
Aparently a Creep

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NOt that i'm a doner....yet (baby on the way)...but i think both the one panel (kinda like Boffo) and 4 panel ideas are good, i think a one panel would be a better idea though, maybe having the ability of using 3 characters for the one panel would widen it enough to solve the Long Title issue? Not that i know how this works...

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4-07-05 11:33am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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Comedy works in threes, that's a fact.

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4-07-05 11:48am (new)
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UnknownEric
and the Goblet of Mountain Dew.

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It would just be one more panel for noobs to write "OMFGWTFLOL!" in.

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4-07-05 1:43pm (new)
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Rabid_Weasle
Professional style cramper

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I've found that sometimes three comics can be limiting to the pacing of the comic. There's been more than once where I've wanted an extra panel just to fit in a pause or to break up the conversation a little bit better.

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4-07-05 3:54pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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Well, I might be willing to do it. But I'm not sure about the UI. If you do it as a grid of four panels, where do you put the edit controls?

- The four panel controls could go at the bottom, but then you'll be scrolling so low you might not be able to see the comic anymore.

- I could put the controls in between the comic panels, but then your comic's split up.

- I could put the controls on the sides, but then it'll be hella wide.

Not sure which one's best.

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4-07-05 11:28pm (new)
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Injokester
Definitely drunk

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I'd prefer seeing it in grid format, with 2 panels at the top, their controls directly under them, then the next 2 panels and their controls. It's easier to edit when the controls are under the panel you're working on, and if it's donor only if mistakes are made they can be corrected easily enough.

Also is there a chance we'll see the Sunday strip format in the future? If so is it possible (in terms of bandwidth/convenience to yourself/loading time for people viewing) to have a full header (like the one on the homepage) above the comics in either that or this format?

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4-08-05 12:23am (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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I think a hella wide, non-grid format would be best. Somehow the action flows better if you just read from left to right without having to take a new line in the middle.

4-08-05 7:09am (new)
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Seph_Deathstorm
Stripcreator Newbie

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That is exactly my point. An extra panel for the most part is for several purposes. Some people have comics that cannot be contained within 3 panels, and added a little mood via an extra panel is a good idea. As for the person who said that the extra panel would just be another square for newbies to write "OMGWTFLMAO" in, well... Let's face it, it's for DONERS ONLY. So if those idiots fork out their hard earned cash to the site, to write that crap on one extra panel, it's not that bad, cause the site has THEIR money. ;o

So, anything that makes using this idea easier is fine with me. Just do consider it.

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4-08-05 7:52am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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Well, I might be willing to do it. But I'm not sure about the UI. If you do it as a grid of four panels, where do you put the edit controls?

- The four panel controls could go at the bottom, but then you'll be scrolling so low you might not be able to see the comic anymore.

- I could put the controls in between the comic panels, but then your comic's split up.

- I could put the controls on the sides, but then it'll be hella wide.

Not sure which one's best.


What about putting the controls for the top two panels above the comic, and the controls for the bottom two panels below the comic?

People will probably want to make jokes that play off the spatial relationship between the panels, so I would say not to split up the panels -- keep it a true preview.

I'm not a fan of the "hella wide" idea. As for scrolling so low I can't see the comic as I make it -- I have that problem anyway. Even at 1024x768, make.php doesn't fit on the screen all at once. So I (and lots of other people) wouldn't even notice the difference.

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4-08-05 8:35am (new)
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KajunFirefly
chooby digital (in stereo)

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I agree with that. Although I would still never make a 4-panel comic.

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4-08-05 11:01am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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See, I like the grid format with the controls under each pair. That way, they appear together when it's submitted, but it's easier to edit.

The four straight accross would be annoying when you're clicking "random".

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4-08-05 6:24pm (new)
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Scyess
Official Traveling Menstrual

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I've been a proponent of four panel comics from the get-go. There are a lot of jokes which just don't work in three panels. (See my favorite strip ever: Bloom County.)

I also like the idea of the comic being straight across, not split up like Diesel Sweeties. But if you must do the 2x2 format you could put the controls for the first two on top and the controls for the second two on bottom.

You could also make it 2x2 in the editing screen, and 1x4 when the actual comic is made.

The width issue will always be a problem, and there's not really a graceful way just to shrink the thing down as a whole in DHTML that I know of. But if there's some way you know of, Brad, you can think of that. (You know much more than I do.)

Otherwise we could just go with the scrolling. I have to scroll a lot of the time, anyway. People who don't want to scroll can just not make 4-panelers. I'm a big proponent of 2-panel comics, but I'll never make one. I just don't think along those likes. I think along four panel lines.

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4-08-05 10:00pm (new)
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TheGovernor
Talentless Hack

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Or would it not be better to just come up with some webpage chicanary that allowed you to link comics together, thus instead of just showing one comic it could show two, or numerous comics on one page, This way you still make 2 comics separately then link them together on one page creating your 4 panel or howevermany web comic. Obviously after that you have posting into forum to consider, but from the sounds of some of the suggestions you'd need to think of that anyway.

4-09-05 5:12am (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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Or would it not be better to just come up with some webpage chicanary that allowed you to link comics together, thus instead of just showing one comic it could show two, or numerous comics on one page, This way you still make 2 comics separately then link them together on one page creating your 4 panel or howevermany web comic. Obviously after that you have posting into forum to consider, but from the sounds of some of the suggestions you'd need to think of that anyway.

This would get real tricky to handle, I'd have to figure out what comics are grouped together every time I get a list, every time I get next and back buttons, every time someone rates a comic. If it's just going to go up to 4 panel comics, it's probably easier to just add more fields to the database and be done with it.

If I was to add bigger comics I'd probably do that with some bastardized set variant or something.

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4-12-05 7:27am (new)
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ArtemisStrong
masturbating to Japanese shit porn

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I was planning to do a "re-imagining" of The Worm, and was just wondering when you were gonna' get around to creating a 250-panel make-a-strip page to facilitate the creation of esoterica.

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4-12-05 10:13am (new)
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kramer_vs_kramer
Stripcreator Newbie

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I think we should have 3D comics.

4-15-05 5:13am (new)
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UnknownEric
and the Goblet of Mountain Dew.

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You'll poke your eye out!

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4-15-05 7:25am (new)
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